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  Thoughts on GOOD SMELLING A. bulbifer
From: "Julius Boos" <ju-bo at msn.com> on 2007.06.23 at 02:55:01(15825)
Dear Amorphofriends,

I have just received a note from ANOTHER friend and grower confirming that
he too has A. bulbifer in his collection which produce good-smelling blooms
which he can display indoors!
I have waited, literally for YEARS, for someone, ANYONE to notice this 'good
smelling' A. bulbifer (THANKS, C.J. !!), as when I FIRST brought this topic
up years ago as I remember it, everyone who pitched in to that discussion
back then said that there was no such plant! They thought that ALL A.
bulbifers stunk! I even remember suggesting that maybe there was a 'ringer'
in this group, perhaps ANOTHER species which might closely resemble A.
bulbifer, but smelt GOOD! All said 'no way!!" So---I retreated into my
shell, shut up, and waited to hear if ANYONE else had experienced or smelt
what I had witnessed at The Mounts Bot. Garden sale those many years ago at
C. Mc. D`s booth!
Now, years later, we have confirmation from TWO NEW people who say that they
too have experienced the 'good smelling' A. bulbifers!
And yes, j b, I too agree that it does not make evoloutionary 'sense' to
have a plant utilizing TWO attractant scents, but then again, it just might
work, as pollinators of DIFFERENT types may still get the job done on BOTH
clones/vars, which, in evoloutionary 'time' (millions of years), may lead to
the production of a recognisable NEW species??!! Cross-pollination of one
var. by the other might be interesting!!
What say yee now, all other growers of this plant?? Does anyone else have
information or suggestions to add to this discussion??

The Best to all,

Julius

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From: Susan B <honeybunny442 at yahoo.com> on 2007.06.23 at 08:32:51(15834)
Dear Julius and friends,I thought the first bulbifer that ever bloomed for me had a good smell and I commented on this during the original line. But I might have a faulty memory- it has happened before~!This would have been in about 2002 and I think the tuber came either from Plant Delights or Enid. Unfortunately, the tuber has gone to the big greenhouse in the sky- :)Julius, some people simply cannot smell these good smelling aroids. My Arisaema candidissimum smell like cotton candy to me, my husband cannot smell it at all.This morning I walked out on our porch and called to Harry: "I smell gas!!" which is odd since we have electric power. Then it smelled like road kill.... it was only after I read Julius' email that it registered it was an Aroid blooming (albus).P-U!Susan
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From: "C. J. Addington" <cjaddington at comcast.net> on 2007.06.23 at 14:34:23(15840)
Hello aroiders!
I'll just throw in my two cents and agree with Julius here. There ARE
pleasantly scented A. bulbifer, and the biggest one in our school greenhouse
is a prime example. If you stuff your nose right in it at its peak of odor
you get a touch of "natural gas leak", but from a couple of feet away the
overall effect is a floral, slightly sweet, subtle scent. The teachers at my
school have all had an opportunity to smell other species - konjac, henryi,
etc. - and all agree that those species stink up a storm, but they all also
agree that bulbifer is the most pleasant of the bunch. I suspect there is a
lot of natural variation - even within a species - and odor probably can
vary quite a lot.
My other big interest is the genus Arum, and the smells in that genus
are extremely variable. Different clones of Arum sintenisii, for example,
can vary from pleasantly fruity and candy-like, to pungently over-ripe and
rotten, to odorless. The joy of genomes!

Cheers,
C.J.

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From: "Wilbert Hetterscheid" <hetter at xs4all.nl> on 2007.06.24 at 02:12:59(15846)
I vote that people who think that bulbifer smells good, be expelled from
aroid-L because of gross olfactory incompetence!!!!!!!!

Lord P.

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From: "Julius Boos" <ju-bo at msn.com> on 2007.06.24 at 13:19:31(15852)
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Sent : Saturday, June 23, 2007 3:32 PM
To : Discussion of aroids
Subject : Re: [Aroid-l] Thoughts on GOOD SMELLING A. bulbifer

Dear Susan, C.J. and Amorphophrieds,

Thanks for confirming that in fact there IS a 'good'-smelling' A. bulbifer,
I can FINALLY sleep a restful nights sleep after all these years worrying
about it! I wonder where all the people who INSISTED that I was crazy,
that ALL P. bulbifer smelt horrible are??
Cat got your tongues, or maybe it is biting your typing finger?!?!?!

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From: "StroWi at t-online.de" <StroWi at t-online.de> on 2007.06.25 at 00:15:20(15853)
Susan,your lines
remind me of my first Amorphophallus bloom.That early summer I woke up and I was irritated by a
smell that reminded me of a mixture of sewage plant and road kill. I
supsected the resaurant next to our house that they had forgotten about
their kitchen waste for the last weeks....When I went downstairs my nose lead me to our
wintergarten where this stench was so strong that I stopped breathing
and I moved the blooming, I mean the albus in bloom, out immediately
:-)Since that day I have a very close
eye on my albus growing inside.....Happy sniffing ;-)BernhardDollbergen, Lower
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From: Hermine <hermine at endangeredspecies.com> on 2007.06.25 at 14:28:06(15856)
At 02:12 AM 6/24/2007, Wilbert Hetterscheid wrote:
I vote that people who think
that bulbifer smells good, be expelled from
aroid-L because of gross olfactory incompetence!!!!!!!!
Lord P.
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From: "Marek Argent" <abri1973 at wp.pl> on 2007.06.25 at 19:40:09(15863)
Bulbifer,,, it smells different during rain, c;ear
weather, and storm. It may be a personal biometer.

Marek (Lord D. (eviant)).

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From: "Wilbert Hetterscheid" <hetter at xs4all.nl> on 2007.06.26 at 00:46:01(15867)
And there I was thinking I had heard it all...............

Guys, are we quite sure we are talking true bulbifer here and not a
bulbiferoid muelleri, which does have additional chemicals in its
predominantly dimethyl-oligosulphide-containg smell?

Lord P(hytochemist)

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From: Susan B <honeybunny442 at yahoo.com> on 2007.06.26 at 09:15:25(15873)
POSITIVE!Wilbert Hetterscheid wrote: And there I was thinking I had heard it all...............Guys, are we quite sure we are talking true bulbifer here and not abulbiferoid muelleri, which does have additional chemicals in itspredominantly dimethyl-oligosulphide-containg smell?Lord P(hytochemist)
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From: "Julius Boos" <ju-bo at msn.com> on 2007.06.26 at 15:37:55(15877)
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