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To: "Discussion of aroids"
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 7:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Fwd: Seeds of Typhonium (Sauromatum) brevipes, or
gaoligongense
> Dear Marek,
> At the time of the transfer of Sauromatum to Typhonium there were
> three species in the genus Sauromatum, one very common, venosum, and the
> other two of which I need a few seeds for chemical analysis. This request
> has nothing to do with growing. T. venosum is indeed very easy to
> propagate. It is actually hardy here in the Cincinnati area, although I
> don't know the source of the plants --- did they come from the northern
> limits of the range in east Asia or from the Cameroons in equatorial
> Africa.
> I repeat my request: does anyone have, or know of someone who
> has, seeds of either or both of the other two former (at the time of the
> transfer) species of Sauromatum?
>
> Vic
>
> Victor G. Soukup PhD
> Herbarium
> University of Cincinnati
> Cincinnati, OH 45221-0006At 09:11 AM 7/10/2007 +0200, you wrote:
>>hey,
>>
>>Why do you need seeds, the plant very easily propagates vegetatively.
>>
>>Marek
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Victor Soukup"
>>To:
>>Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 5:03 PM
>>Subject: [Aroid-l] Fwd: Seeds of Typhonium (Sauromatum) brevipe
>>orgaoligongense
>>
>>
>> >
>> >>Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2007 13:49:55 -0400
>> >>To:
>> >>From: Victor Soukup
>> >>Subject: Seeds of Typhonium (Sauromatum) brevipe or gaoligongense
>> >>
>> >>Dear Members,
>> >> If anyone has seeds of either, or both, of the above named
>> >> Typhonium species, or knows of someone who might, please get in touch
>> >> with me. The seeds can be fresh or taken from a dry herbarium
>> >> specimen
>> >> and can be up to 75 years old. I may be able to get by with only 2 -
>> >> 3
>> >> seeds of each.
>> >> They are needed to confirm chemical relationships in this part
>> >> of
>> >> the genus Typhonium. In 2000 in an article in Aroideana, Hetterscheid
>> >> and Boyce transferred these two species from Sauromatum to Typhonium
>> >> while presenting evidence for the move. They also presented evidence
>> >> that these species along with a small group of other Typhoniums are
>> >> different --- that Typhonium is paraphyletic.
>> >> My chemical evidence supports this grouping except that I have
>> >> never been able to find any seeds of the two above mentioned species
>> >> to
>> >> ascertain that this same chemical difference exists throughout the
>> >> entire
>> >> small group.
>> >> Please help if you can, otherwise I must just make an
>> >> assumption
>> >> that they do in fact behave as their co-species, as reported by
>> >> Hetterscheid and Boyce.
>> >>
>> >>Vic
>> >>
>> >>Victor G. Soukup PhD
>> >>Herbarium
>> >>University of Cincinnati
>> >>Cincinnati, OH 45221-0006
>> >
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