Epiphytic philodendron culture

From: xeen_sg at yahoo.com (Isla Verde) on 2007.08.28 at 03:40:48(16170) Hello all: I know that some philodendrons need to climb higher in order to get bigger leaves. The problem is, I don't have all the vertical space for them. So could I just top off the plant and stick the cutting back onto ground level and expect the leaves to maintain/increase their sizes from there? Thank you Calvin +More --------------------------------- Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/private/aroid-l/attachments/20070827/ac49d528/attachment-0001.htm

From: derek at horticulturist.com (Derek Burch) on 2007.08.28 at 11:50:31(16171) Hi Calvin, When I worked for Bob Wilson at Fantastic Gardens in Miami (about fifty years ago I realise with a shock), he had perfected that technique, and we would laboriously produce gorgeous totems of various aroids by making two or three passes through the growth cycle. So, yes, it should work for you, and I think that strong light will also help the process along, simulating the growth up through the forest canopy. Derek +More -----Original Message----- From: aroid-l-bounces at gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces at gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Isla Verde Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 11:41 PM To: aroid-l at gizmoworks.com Subject: [Aroid-l] Epiphytic philodendron culture Hello all: I know that some philodendrons need to climb higher in order to get bigger leaves. The problem is, I don't have all the vertical space for them. So could I just top off the plant and stick the cutting back onto ground level and expect the leaves to maintain/increase their sizes from there? Thank you Calvin _____ Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/private/aroid-l/attachments/20070828/2416602a/attachment-0001.htm

From: Steve at ExoticRainforest.com (ExoticRainforest) on 2007.08.28 at 12:37:05(16173) Calvin, In personal experience that only "sort of" works. If your plant has begun to morph into a larger blade size it may retain that more adult form but not necessarily continue to morph. At least that has been what I've seen in my atrium. I was given a fully adult Monstera adansonii about one year ago. I attached it to a totem and every new leaf since has been half the size of the original blades. Ron Weeks and others will have better experience than do I. I've resorted to using multiple sphagnum moss totem poles in order to give the plants as much height as possible. You can find those fairly inexpensively on the net. Steve Lucas +More www.ExoticRainforest.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Isla Verde To: aroid-l at gizmoworks.com Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 10:40 PM Subject: [Aroid-l] Epiphytic philodendron culture Hello all: I know that some philodendrons need to climb higher in order to get bigger leaves. The problem is, I don't have all the vertical space for them. So could I just top off the plant and stick the cutting back onto ground level and expect the leaves to maintain/increase their sizes from there? Thank you Calvin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L at www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/private/aroid-l/attachments/20070828/5b19d5d3/attachment-0001.htm

From: rhweeks at attglobal.net (Ron Weeks) on 2007.08.28 at 16:56:55(16177) The technique was still in good use when I worked there a mere 35 years ago. No doubt it still works today. ...Ron +More On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 07:50:31 -0400, Derek Burch wrote: > Hi Calvin, > > > When I worked for Bob Wilson at Fantastic Gardens in Miami (about fifty > years ago I realise with a shock), he had perfected that technique, and > we > would laboriously produce gorgeous totems of various aroids by making > two or > three passes through the growth cycle. So, yes, it should work for you, > and > I think that strong light will also help the process along, simulating > the > growth up through the forest canopy. > > > Derek > > > -----Original Message----- > From: aroid-l-bounces at gizmoworks.com > [mailto:aroid-l-bounces at gizmoworks.com] > On Behalf Of Isla Verde > Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 11:41 PM > To: aroid-l at gizmoworks.com > Subject: [Aroid-l] Epiphytic philodendron culture > > > Hello all: > > I know that some philodendrons need to climb higher in order to get > bigger > leaves. The problem is, I don't have all the vertical space for them. So > could I just top off the plant and stick the cutting back onto ground > level > and expect the leaves to maintain/increase their sizes from there? > > > Thank you > > Calvin > > > _____ > > Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out > tonight's top > picks > on Yahoo! TV. >

From: denis at skg.com (Denis Rotolante) on 2007.08.28 at 18:47:05(16179) Try mossing off the top 3 to 4 leaves and allowing the roots to grow out into spagnum brfore you top it and restick it at the base of a totem. that might help to retain the vigor and increasing leaf size with out set back. +More -----Original Message----- From: aroid-l-bounces at gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces at gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of ExoticRainforest Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 8:37 AM To: Discussion of aroids Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Epiphytic philodendron culture Calvin, In personal experience that only "sort of" works. If your plant has begun to morph into a larger blade size it may retain that more adult form but not necessarily continue to morph. At least that has been what I've seen in my atrium. I was given a fully adult Monstera adansonii about one year ago. I attached it to a totem and every new leaf since has been half the size of the original blades. Ron Weeks and others will have better experience than do I. I've resorted to using multiple sphagnum moss totem poles in order to give the plants as much height as possible. You can find those fairly inexpensively on the net. Steve Lucas www.ExoticRainforest.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Isla Verde To: aroid-l at gizmoworks.com Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 10:40 PM Subject: [Aroid-l] Epiphytic philodendron culture Hello all: I know that some philodendrons need to climb higher in order to get bigger leaves. The problem is, I don't have all the vertical space for them. So could I just top off the plant and stick the cutting back onto ground level and expect the leaves to maintain/increase their sizes from there? Thank you Calvin _____ Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. _____ _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L at www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/private/aroid-l/attachments/20070828/fcbd9f80/attachment-0001.htm

From: pugturd at alltel.net (Brian Williams) on 2007.08.29 at 02:19:45(16181) Wow Ron 35 years ago that's been longer than I have been alive LOL. Another trick I have seen is these totems which you can add sections to to make them taller. Once the mature part of the plant begins to reach this section you remove or cut the totem and the plant so it is still attached to what it was growing on and re-root it. I believe the technique works but if the plant is not attached already or does not attach really soon it will start to revert back. > > > +More

From: xeen_sg at yahoo.com (Isla Verde) on 2007.08.30 at 01:40:53(16184) Thanks for all your comments!. Brian mentioned about the plant having to have established rooting on the totem as an assurance that it won't go back to juvenile leaves before lopping it off. This is interesting! Could it be due to the Hiemiphytic nature of some of these philodendrons? (that says something about the clasping/feeding roots getting some nutrients from the attached points at the totem surfaces?) Calvin --------------------------------- +More Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/private/aroid-l/attachments/20070829/5f6487e2/attachment.htm

From: chammer at cfl.rr.com (Bluesea) on 2007.08.30 at 15:07:03(16186) Calvin, I doubt clasping roots getting nutrients have much to do with growth to mature stage in Aroids. Obviously they do have a role in nutrition, and I always pour fertilizer water down the totem. But there's another phenomenon at play here. I agree with Brian in that the Aroid must remain rooted to the totem. I read decades ago, probably in Aroideana, that there's a particular chemical/enzyme produced in the roots when Aroids have actually rooted to wood and are in climbing mode. The chemical is not present when it's running across the ground. Apparently this chemical triggers the physical journey to mature stage growth, assuming other necessary factors are present, such as proper light, temps, etc. My own theory is that the chemical/enzyme is produced only in the roots of the growing tip, which is why they start to revert to juvenile stage as soon as they are separated from the surface of the totem, or a tree. Russ +More central Fla Isla Verde wrote: > Thanks for all your comments!. Brian mentioned about the plant having > to have established rooting on the totem as an assurance that it won't > go back to juvenile leaves before lopping it off. This is interesting! > Could it be due to the Hiemiphytic nature of some of these > philodendrons? (that says something about the clasping/feeding roots > getting some nutrients from the attached points at the totem surfaces?) > > Calvin > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places > on > Yahoo! Travel. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Aroid-L mailing list > Aroid-L at www.gizmoworks.com > http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/private/aroid-l/attachments/20070830/f325c727/attachment.htm

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