Amorphophallus from Thailand

From: aroidgrower at verizon.net (John Ludwig) on 2007.11.02 at 00:17:42(16637) I have seen a few species of Amorphophallus from Thailand offered on eBay lately. A friend told me that he had purchased some in years past and that +More quite a few did not break dormancy for more than 18 months after he purchased them. Has anyone had similar outcome's? I am hesitant to purchase these tuber's. Thank you all for any information you are willing to share. John

From: ken at spatulacity.com (Ken Mosher) on 2007.11.02 at 03:42:34(16638) John, Which species? I can't think of any Thai species that have refused to break dormancy for me. Maybe buying off eBay is the problem... -Ken +More John Ludwig wrote: > I have seen a few species of Amorphophallus from Thailand offered on > eBay lately. > > A friend told me that he had purchased some in years past and that > quite a few did not break dormancy for more than 18 months after he > purchased them. > > Has anyone had similar outcome's? > > I am hesitant to purchase these tuber's. > > > Thank you all for any information you are willing to share. > > John

From: epiphyte1 at earthlink.net (Adam Black) on 2007.11.02 at 05:22:12(16639) I purchased an imported A. pygmaeus tuber at the IAS show and sale in September 2004. It did not emerge until this past spring - two and a half years later! Each spring, it appeared like it was going to do something (the growing point beginning to develop slightly) but it would just sit that way and then shrink back towards late summer. I kept it potted during the normal growing season, providing regular moisture to hopefully stimulate growth, and when nothing would happen I would store the tuber dry for the winter. Despite this long rest, the leaf that finally emerged this year appeared perfectly healthy and robust, and hasn't showed any signs yet of wanting to go dormant. Another species that I purchased that same year (2004) took about 18 months to break dormancy, but appears to be on schedule now. Adam Black +More John Ludwig wrote: >I have seen a few species of Amorphophallus from Thailand offered on >eBay lately. > >A friend told me that he had purchased some in years past and that >quite a few did not break dormancy for more than 18 months after he >purchased them. > >Has anyone had similar outcome's? > >I am hesitant to purchase these tuber's. > > >Thank you all for any information you are willing to share. > >John >_______________________________________________ >Aroid-L mailing list >Aroid-L at www.gizmoworks.com >http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l > > > >

From: gschnu at gmail.com (Georg Gschnitzer) on 2007.11.02 at 12:50:50(16643) Hello, I bought 5 tubers of Am. atroviridis this spring and had no "extended dormancy" problems. They were offered on ebay and came directly from Thailand via air mail. 4 of them were flowering this year, so I hope they will bring out leaves in 2008. One of them had a very badly damaged shoot, but after a while (I think it was July) the shoot restartet to grow and made no flower but a leave, which is still alive now in November! I think these bulbs from Thailand can be bought, but it is a little similar to the problems discussed here concerning the Turkish ebay seller "ladybotany" - the sellers from Thailand use stolen pictures...., but the big difference is, that you will receive your plants! In the meanwhile I bought Amorphophallus bulbs from 3 or 4 Thai ebay-sellers. I never had any problems, all tubers arrived in a good state, sometimes even with the phytosanitary certificate. They have very low shipping costs, and the prices for the plants are moderate! The only thing I hope, is they do not run into their forests and dig out everything they find, because of the momentary "Amorphophallus-Gold-Rush". Best wishes Georg +More 2007/11/2, John Ludwig : > > I have seen a few species of Amorphophallus from Thailand offered on > eBay lately. > > A friend told me that he had purchased some in years past and that > quite a few did not break dormancy for more than 18 months after he > purchased them. > > Has anyone had similar outcome's? > > I am hesitant to purchase these tuber's. > > > Thank you all for any information you are willing to share. > > John > _______________________________________________ > Aroid-L mailing list > Aroid-L at www.gizmoworks.com > http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/private/aroid-l/attachments/20071102/ce088604/attachment.htm

From: ronmchatton at aol.com (ronmchatton at aol.com) on 2007.11.02 at 19:10:42(16644) I've never really had trouble with anything from Thailand.? You sometimes run into corms that can rest for 18 months or more even those grown here in the US. Ron McHatton +More Central Florida -----Original Message----- From: John Ludwig To: Discussion of aroids Sent: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 2:17 pm Subject: [Aroid-l] Amorphophallus from Thailand I have seen a few species of Amorphophallus from Thailand offered on eBay lately. A friend told me that he had purchased some in years past and that quite a few did not break dormancy for more than 18 months after he purchased them. Has anyone had similar outcome's? I am hesitant to purchase these tuber's. Thank you all for any information you are willing to share. John _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L at www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/private/aroid-l/attachments/20071102/a03eb327/attachment.htm

From: alan_galloway at ncsu.edu (Alan Galloway) on 2007.11.02 at 20:18:55(16646) John, Most Thai Amorphs have a pretty regular growth/dormancy cycle. But some species are much more prone to skipping a season or two before either flowering or sending up a leaf. Am. pygmaeus, atroviridis, and tenuispadix seem to be much more prone to skipping a growth/flowering cycle. Am. parvulus and Am. napiger, and a couple of other species that grow these thin, long tubers also might fall into this 'skip a growth/flower cycle' pattern.........The reason I say they 'might' fall into this category, is that many years their tubers grow out of the bottom of the pot and are broken off when the pot is moved, so it could be the damage to the bottom of the tuber that causes them to skip a growth/flowering cycle. I've been trying to keep some detailed notes on this hypothesis over the last few years, but don't have enough data yet to determine if my hypothesis is valid. Alan +More ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Ludwig" To: "Discussion of aroids" Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 8:17 PM Subject: [Aroid-l] Amorphophallus from Thailand >I have seen a few species of Amorphophallus from Thailand offered on > eBay lately. > > A friend told me that he had purchased some in years past and that > quite a few did not break dormancy for more than 18 months after he > purchased them. > > Has anyone had similar outcome's? > > I am hesitant to purchase these tuber's. > > > Thank you all for any information you are willing to share. > > John

From: garbird at bellsouth.net (garbird at bellsouth.net) on 2007.11.03 at 23:34:30(16654) Ken, I did not know anyone was doing research on the effects of buying off eBay on plant growth. Can you send us some links to these studies? I have had aoids sit for 2 years without breaking dormancy,and they are still very healthy mature plants. Some of these were from the IAS sale and some are growing wild on my farm in KY. I think it is mostly a result of environmental conditions. Like lack of rain or the tubers being disturbed during the vegetative growth cycle, as most wild collected specimens are subject to. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks, Garland Bird +More -------------- Original message from Ken Mosher : -------------- > John, > Which species? I can't think of any Thai species that have refused to > break dormancy for me. Maybe buying off eBay is the problem... > -Ken > > John Ludwig wrote: > > I have seen a few species of Amorphophallus from Thailand offered on > > eBay lately. > > > > A friend told me that he had purchased some in years past and that > > quite a few did not break dormancy for more than 18 months after he > > purchased them. > > > > Has anyone had similar outcome's? > > > > I am hesitant to purchase these tuber's. > > > > > > Thank you all for any information you are willing to share. > > > > John > _______________________________________________ > Aroid-L mailing list > Aroid-L at www.gizmoworks.com > http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/private/aroid-l/attachments/20071103/b0f9f7b9/attachment.htm

From: bonaventure at optonline.net (bonaventure at optonline.net) on 2007.11.04 at 11:46:06(16663) Amorph. albus - largest tuber bloomed in Zone 7 garden 2005. No leaf from that tuber sent up until this year 2007! B. Magrys Cliffwood Beach, NJ USA +More -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/private/aroid-l/attachments/20071104/d573a385/attachment.htm

From: StroWi at t-online.de (StroWi at t-online.de) on 2007.11.05 at 05:48:01(16664) Hi James, judging from the photographs it could be titanum, but many Amorpophallus look like that when the leaf is still in the cataphylls. However titanum has green cataphylls without any pattern and in that respect the picture fits titanum. +More To be sure you have to wait till the 3rd or 4th true leaf when titanum shows it's typical pattern on the petiole. @ English native speakers/botanists: Is cataphyll the right term in English for "Huellblatt"? Or does the term only describe covering leafs over an "underground" bud? Good growing, Bernhard. -----Original Message----- Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2007 16:52:51 +0100 Subject: [Aroid-l] Amorphophallus Titanum(?) Seedling ID and long storage time From: James Park To: ? ?Hello, Last Christmas .... Can anyone identify it? Sorry for the poor photography. Thanks James

From: bonaventure at optonline.net (bonaventure at optonline.net) on 2007.11.22 at 18:23:23(16710) Hi Bernhard, I'm not sure if I had answered your email already, but yes, the albus (may be yunnanense but looks more like albus) which came from Kaichen in 1999 or 2000 listed as A-101, is hardy and proliferates here in my garden in NJ. As with some konjac and dunii tubers, the very largest may rot over winter. However I have had no problem with konjac blooming but yet to see a dunnii bloom and a repeat of the albus. Bonaventure +More -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/private/aroid-l/attachments/20071122/d23ec6fd/attachment.htm

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