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From: sarwo_adenium at yahoo.co.id (Sarwo Goneng) on 2008.02.26 at 06:49:33(17101) Dear every aroid lover introduce my Self... My name Mr. Sarwo. Plese give me informations about Anthurium Bergundi and Anthurium Black Marie. Regards Mr. Sarwo +More ----- Pesan Asli ---- Dari: "aroid-l-request at gizmoworks.com" Kepada: aroid-l at gizmoworks.com Terkirim: Selasa, 26 Febuari, 2008 1:00:02 Topik: Aroid-L Digest, Vol 43, Issue 25 Send Aroid-L mailing list submissions to aroid-l at www.gizmoworks.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to aroid-l-request at www.gizmoworks.com You can reach the person managing the list at aroid-l-owner at www.gizmoworks.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Aroid-L digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Need some advice for aroids in outdoor condition climate zone 7 (Sheldon Hatheway) 2. Re: OT: id this non-aroid plant? (piaba) 3. Re: Need some advice for aroids in outdoor condition climate zone 7 (RAYMOMATTLA at cs.com) 4. Re: OT: id this non-aroid plant? (mossytrail) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 10:46:53 -0800 (PST) From: Sheldon Hatheway Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Need some advice for aroids in outdoor condition climate zone 7 To: Discussion of aroids Message-ID: <565200.3491.qm at web39514.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello, Franck, Here in Canby, OR, USA, in a similar zone as yours, we successfully grow Dracunculus vulgaris and Arum italicum (in addition to the ones you mentioned) in the ground all year. They do just fine with a little winter mulch if it gets below 20F. Both of these are available from most of the larger mail-order nurseries. A Google search will give you more leads than you could ever look at in a normal lifetime. We also grow a number of hardy orchids outside: Bletilla, Pleione, Calanthe, Dactylorhiza, Roscoea, Spiranthes, etc. Some of these do well in full sun, and some appreciate a little light shade during the hot summer afternoons. Sheldon ----- Original Message ---- From: Franck To: Discussion of aroids Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 4:45:54 AM Subject: [Aroid-l] Need some advice for aroids in outdoor condition climate zone 7 Hello all, I would like to put some aroids in outdoor condition in the garden. I am in a climate zone 7, with hot summer and severe winter (around -10?C in average to the lower level). What could you advice me as species ? I have retained some ones but it is just to be sure (Arisaema sp., Typhonium sp., Symplocarpus sp. are the genus I have for example. I don't write the species because the list is long). And to finish, how or where can I found some specimens adapted in culture outdoor ? Thanks a lot for your help Franck -- --------------------------------------------------- Franck RADNAI - Climate Zone 7 Web site : http://fradnai.free.fr/ Photos : http://picasaweb.google.fr/Franck54280 Long. 6?21' 7" Est Lat. 48?47'14" Nord -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L at www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 23:58:48 EST From: RAYMOMATTLA at cs.com Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Need some advice for aroids in outdoor condition climate zone 7 To: aroid-l at gizmoworks.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Franck, you could always try some of the more tropical genera like Colocasia, Alocasia and Remusatia. All have a few species that can overwinter underground in zone 7. Also a few of the Amorphophallus and I even know a few people who over winter Philodendron bippenatifidum in zone 7. Those will dieback to the ground every winter but given a well drained spot will come back with full force in spring. Where are you located? Michael M. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/private/aroid-l/attachments/20080223/6cdcfab6/attachment-0001.htm ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 18:05:36 -0800 From: "mossytrail" Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] OT: id this non-aroid plant? To: aroid-l at gizmoworks.com Message-ID: <47c22270.2de.7d0.3383 at hctc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > I've now found a couple of other pictures and I agree with > Jonathan - this looks like a wonderful plant. I love > gesneriads and this looks like one I want to grow, along > with several others in the genus I ran across during my > earlier searches. > > Steve Speaking of Costa Rican plants from the vicinity of Arenal, I would love to get my hands on Peperomia hernandiifolia. I don't suppose you have any pics of AROIDS from there? I remember some huge Xanthosoma, as in taller than I, with a banana-like trunk. It was undescribed at the time, but I think it may have been described by now. Jason "hernandiifolia"(i.e., Hernandez) Naturalist-at-Large ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L at www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l End of Aroid-L Digest, Vol 43, Issue 25 *************************************** ________________________________________________________ Bergabunglah dengan orang-orang yang berwawasan, di di bidang Anda! Kunjungi Yahoo! Answers saat ini juga di http://id.answers.yahoo.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Today's Topics: 1. Re: Need some advice= for aroids in outdoor condition climate = zone 7 (Sheldon Hatheway) 2. Re: OT: id this non-aroid pl= ant? (piaba) 3. Re: Need some advice for aroids in outdoor condit= ion climate zone 7 (RAYMOMATTLA@= cs.com) 4. Re: OT: id this non-aroid plant? (mossytrail) <= BR> --------------------------------------------------------------------= -- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 10:46:53 -0800 (PST) From= : Sheldon Hatheway <sfhatheway at yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Ar= oid-l] Need some advice for aroids in outdoor conditi= on climate zone 7 To: Discussion of aroids < ="mailto:aroid-l at gizmoworks.com" ymailto="mailto:aroid-l at gizmoworks.com= ">aroid-l at gizmoworks.com> Message-ID: <565200.3491.qm at web39514.mail.mud.yahoo.com>= ; Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello, Franck,= Here in Canby, OR, USA, in a similar zone as yours, we successfully= grow Dracunculus vulgaris and Arum italicum (in addition to the ones you m= entioned) in the ground all year. They do just fine with a little win= ter mulch if it gets below 20F. Both of these are available from most= of the larger mail-order nurseries. A Google search will give you more lead= s than you could ever look at in a normal lifetime. We also grow a nu= mber of hardy orchids outside: Bletilla, Pleione, Calanthe, Dactylorh= iza, Roscoea, Spiranthes, etc. Some of these do well in full sun, and= some appreciate a little light shade during the hot summer afternoons. = Sheldon ----- Original Message ---- From: Franck < ref="mailto:fradnai at free.fr" ymailto="mailto:fradnai at free.fr">fradnai at f= ree.fr> To: Discussion of aroids <aroid-l at gizmoworks.= com> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 4:45:54 AM Subject: [Ar= oid-l] Need some advice for aroids in outdoor condition climate zone 7 <= BR> Hello all, I would like= to put some aroids in outdoor condition in the garden. I am in a climat= e zone 7, with hot summer and severe winter (around -10?C in average to t= he lower level). What could you advice me as species ? I have retained s= ome ones but it is just to be sure (Arisaema sp., Typhonium sp., Symploc= arpus sp. are the genus I have for example. I don't write the species be= cause the list is long). And to finish, how or where can I found some sp= ecimens adapted in culture outdoor ? Thanks a lot for your help <= BR>Franck -- ---------------------------------------------------= Franck RADNAI - Climate Zone 7 Web site : http://fradnai.free.fr/ Photos := http://= picasaweb.google.fr/Franck54280 Long. 6?21' 7" Est Lat.= 48?47'14" Nord -----Inline Attachment Follows----- >_______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L at www.gizmoworks.com http://= www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l = __________________________________________________= __________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo = your home page. h= ttp://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -------------- next part -------------- = An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Search. href="http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=sh= opping" target=_blank>http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.ph= p?category=shopping ------------------------------ = Message: 3 Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 23:58:48 EST From: RAYMOMATTLA at cs.= com Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Need some advice for aroids in outdoor > condition climate zone 7 To: ef="mailto:aroid-l at gizmoworks.com" ymailto="mailto:aroid-l at gizmoworks.c= om">aroid-l at gizmoworks.com Message-ID: <cdc.= 2317f0dd.34f25388 at cs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us= -ascii" Franck, you could always try some of the more tropical= genera like Colocasia, Alocasia and Remusatia. All have a few sp= ecies that can overwinter underground in zone 7. Also a few of the Amorphophall= us and I even know a few people who over winter Philodendron bippenatif= idum in zone 7. Those will dieback to the ground every winter but= given a well drained spot will come back with full force in spring.&nb= sp; Where are you located? Michael M. ------------= -- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <= A href="http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/private/aroid-l/attachments/200= 80223/6cdcfab6/attachment-0001.htm" target=_blank>http://www.gizmoworks.c= om/mailman/private/aroid-l/attachments/20080223/6cdcfab6/attachment-0001.ht= m ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sun= , 24 Feb 2008 18:05:36 -0800 From: "mossytrail" <mossytrail at hctc.c= om> Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] OT: id this non-aroid plant? To: href="mailto:aroid-l at gizmoworks.com" ymailto="mailto:aroid-l at gizmowork= s.com">aroid-l at gizmoworks.com Message-ID: <47c22270.2de.7d0.3383 at hctc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; char= set="iso-8859-1" > I've now found a couple of other pictures an= d I agree with > Jonathan - this looks like a wonderful plant. = I love > gesneriads and this looks like one I want to grow, alo= ng > with several others in the genus I ran across during my >> earlier searches. > > Steve Speaking of Costa Ri= can plants from the vicinity of Arenal, I would love to get my hands on = Peperomia hernandiifolia. I don't suppose you have any pics of AROID= S from there? I remember some huge Xanthosoma, as in taller than I= , with a banana-like trunk. It was undescribed at the time, but I think it may have been described by now. Jason "hernandiifolia= "(i.e., Hernandez) Naturalist-at-Large ----------------------= -------- _______________________________________________ Aroid-L = mailing list Aroid-L at www.gizmoworks.com ="http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l" target=_blank>htt= p://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l End of Aroid= -L Digest, Vol 43, Issue 25 *************************************** <= /DIV> Arial size=-1>Bergabunglah dengan orang-orang yang berwawasan, di bidang = Anda di Yahoo! Answers --0-97060442-1204008573=:79288--

From: lbmkjm at yahoo.com (brian lee) on 2008.02.29 at 17:41:48(17107) Dear Mr. Sarwo, Aloha. The two names you are using are not valid. However, I will attempt to give you some information. I am assuming your Anthurium Bergundi is: Anthurium 'Burgundy'...which would be a hybrid name. I do not know much about hybrids, but someone out there does. The other thing that could be this is, Anthurium bonplandii, which has burgundy emergent leaves. There is a controversy about this which you can read on Steve Lucas' website, http://exoticrainforest.com. Anthurium Black Marie, must be Anthurium 'Marie'...which is a hybrid created by Ree Gardens and named for Marie Nock. It is a notable for its dark leaves which emerge green and turn black-green in bright, but not burning light. Aloha, Leland +More --- Sarwo Goneng wrote: > Dear every aroid lover > introduce my Self... > My name Mr. Sarwo. > From Indonesia. > Plese give me informations about Anthurium Bergundi > and Anthurium Black Marie. > > Regards > Mr. Sarwo > > > ----- Pesan Asli ---- > Dari: "aroid-l-request at gizmoworks.com" > > Kepada: aroid-l at gizmoworks.com > Terkirim: Selasa, 26 Febuari, 2008 1:00:02 > Topik: Aroid-L Digest, Vol 43, Issue 25 > > Send Aroid-L mailing list submissions to > aroid-l at www.gizmoworks.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, > visit > > http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l > or, via email, send a message with subject or body > 'help' to > aroid-l-request at www.gizmoworks.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > aroid-l-owner at www.gizmoworks.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it > is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Aroid-L digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Need some advice for aroids in outdoor > condition climate > zone 7 (Sheldon Hatheway) > 2. Re: OT: id this non-aroid plant? (piaba) > 3. Re: Need some advice for aroids in outdoor > condition climate > zone 7 (RAYMOMATTLA at cs.com) > 4. Re: OT: id this non-aroid plant? (mossytrail) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 10:46:53 -0800 (PST) > From: Sheldon Hatheway > Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Need some advice for aroids > in outdoor > condition climate zone 7 > To: Discussion of aroids > Message-ID: > <565200.3491.qm at web39514.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hello, Franck, > > Here in Canby, OR, USA, in a similar zone as yours, > we successfully grow Dracunculus vulgaris and Arum > italicum (in addition to the ones you mentioned) in > the ground all year. They do just fine with a > little winter mulch if it gets below 20F. Both of > these are available from most of the larger > mail-order nurseries. A Google search will give you > more leads than you could ever look at in a normal > lifetime. We also grow a number of hardy orchids > outside: Bletilla, Pleione, Calanthe, Dactylorhiza, > Roscoea, Spiranthes, etc. Some of these do well in > full sun, and some appreciate a little light shade > during the hot summer afternoons. > > Sheldon > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Franck > To: Discussion of aroids > Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 4:45:54 AM > Subject: [Aroid-l] Need some advice for aroids in > outdoor condition climate zone 7 > > > > > > > > > Hello all, > > I would like to put some aroids in outdoor condition > in the garden. I > am in a climate zone 7, with hot summer and severe > winter (around -10?C > in average to the lower level). What could you > advice me as species ? I > have retained some ones but it is just to be sure > (Arisaema sp., > Typhonium sp., Symplocarpus sp. are the genus I have > for example. I > don't write the species because the list is long). > And to finish, how > or where can I found some specimens adapted in > culture outdoor ? > > Thanks a lot for your help > > Franck > > -- > --------------------------------------------------- > Franck RADNAI - Climate Zone 7 > > Web site : http://fradnai.free.fr/ > Photos : http://picasaweb.google.fr/Franck54280 > > Long. 6?21' 7" Est > Lat. 48?47'14" Nord > > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > _______________________________________________ > Aroid-L > mailing > list > Aroid-L at www.gizmoworks.com > http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/private/aroid-l/attachments/20080223/7ef5e00c/attachment-0001.html > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 18:08:40 -0800 (PST) > From: piaba > Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] OT: id this non-aroid plant? > To: Discussion of aroids > Message-ID: > <358176.61936.qm at web51906.mail.re2.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > at first i thought it was a gesneriad but the leaves > totally threw me off. > > ========= > tsuh yang > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. > http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 23:58:48 EST > From: RAYMOMATTLA at cs.com > Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Need some advice for aroids > in outdoor > condition climate zone 7 > To: aroid-l at gizmoworks.com > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Franck, you could always try some of the more > tropical genera like > Colocasia, Alocasia and Remusatia. All have a few > species that can overwinter > underground in zone 7. Also a few of the > Amorphophallus and I even know a few people > who over winter Philodendron bippenatifidum in zone > 7. Those will dieback to > the ground every winter but given a well drained > spot will come back with > full force in spring. > Where are you located? > === message truncated ===> _______________________________________________ > Aroid-L mailing list > Aroid-L at www.gizmoworks.com > http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping

From: denis at skg.com (Denis) on 2008.03.03 at 15:34:49(17122) I'm not sure what plants you are asking about but: Anthurium x 'Marie' is a hybrid bird's nest variety selected by Steve Nock for its beautiful maroon foliage when grown in bright light. It is one which has been tissue cultured by Agristarts, Inc. Anthurium 'Burgandy' as far as I know is a tissue cultured flowering Anthurium andraeanum (cultorum) variety with dark red spathes from Holland. Denis +More Skg.com -----Original Message----- From: aroid-l-bounces at gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces at gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Sarwo Goneng Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 1:50 AM To: aroid-l at gizmoworks.com Subject: [Aroid-l] Bls: Aroid-L Digest, Vol 43, Issue 25 Dear every aroid lover introduce my Self... My name Mr. Sarwo.

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