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  Typhonium (giganteum) behaviour
From: "James W. Waddick" <jim-jim at swbell.net> on 1997.10.08 at 08:52:36(1406)
Dear Wilbert;
Does your observation include Typhonium giganteum? My plants get
bigger each year (including the tubers) and mulitply. I only grow these
outdoors in my cold climate garden. And they are consistently incredibly
late in rising. I usually get 'antsy' thinking they have finally died the
previous winter. Of course I only grow a few species, but this one has a
very short growth period.
Thanks and Best Jim W.

James W. Waddick Voice: 816 746 1949
8871 NW Brostrom Rd E-MAIL: jim-jim@swbell.net
Kansas City MO 64152 Fax: 816 746 1939
Zone 5/6 -

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From: Wilbert Hetterscheid <hetter at vkc.nl> on 1997.10.09 at 06:36:47(1412)
Dear Jim,

Since Typhonium giganteum is one of the few cold-resistant species, I
also grow it in temperate conditions and it DOEs always appear very late
here too. It is now shedding its leaves. I grow them frost-free though.
They flower each year a fraction before the leaves appear full scale. It
is a real tough one, so my warnings in my previous message do not apply
to this monster. And of course Typhonium venosum is an exception
too..............

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From: Steve Marak <samarak at arachne.uark.edu> on 1997.10.09 at 09:50:22(1413)
On Thu, 9 Oct 1997, Wilbert Hetterscheid wrote:

> to this monster. And of course Typhonium venosum is an exception
> too..............
>

Did anyone else notice how subtly Wilbert slipped this name change in on
us? (Not that we haven't been warned, several times.) Does this mean it's
official now? Sauromatum is no more? Did both species wind up in
Typhonium?

Ah well, a Sauromatum by any other name would smell as foul.

Steve

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From: "James W. Waddick" <jim-jim at swbell.net> on 1997.10.09 at 09:59:24(1414)
Dear Wilbert
Give me a few hints. I grow mine in an intemperate climate (got to
-14 F last winter) and T. giganteum comes up late. I have only had bloom
and seed once. I grow mine in a fairly shady site, but the only one to
bloom was in a mostly sunny site. What can you suggest sunnier or shadier?
They are late in either site.
Mine are still in full leaf now and look very happy. They'll stay
up until frost hits them. Doesn't sound exactly like your experiences.

best Thanks Jim

James W. Waddick Voice: 816 746 1949
8871 NW Brostrom Rd E-MAIL: jim-jim@swbell.net
Kansas City MO 64152 Fax: 816 746 1939
Zone 5/6 -

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From: "Alan Galloway" <alan at unity.ncsu.edu> on 1997.10.09 at 11:56:22(1416)
On Oct 9, 11:55am, Steve Marak wrote:
> Subject: RE: Typhonium (giganteum) behaviour
> On Thu, 9 Oct 1997, Wilbert Hetterscheid wrote:
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From: Lester Kallus <lkallus at earthlink.net> on 1997.10.09 at 12:17:54(1417)
Hey don't complain. I purchased my Arum venosums from Van Bourgondien's
just 10 years ago only to learn that they're actually Sauromatum
venosums... I mean Typhonium venosums... I mean...

This convinces me that there truly is a secret multinational committee that
convenes specifically to change the names of a few plants every year.

Les

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From: Rand Nicholson <writserv at nbnet.nb.ca> on 1997.10.09 at 12:26:55(1418)
>On Thu, 9 Oct 1997, Wilbert Hetterscheid wrote:
>
>> to this monster. And of course Typhonium venosum is an exception
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From: SNALICE at aol.com on 1997.10.10 at 11:39:18(1419)
>>>Damn!

I was just getting used to S. _venosum_ as opposed to guttatum! When will
it ever end??? I'm gonna have to stop growing these things.

Rand

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From: Wilbert Hetterscheid <hetter at vkc.nl> on 1997.10.10 at 11:50:58(1420)
Dear Jim,

My plants never get a frost yet they die down anyway, so I guess they
have a limited growing period and get their thing done in that time in
my conditions. T. giganteum can stand FULL sun and will perform best in
that condition. The leaves may get a little smaller than the outrageous
near 100 cm length mine get in semi-shade but that isn't a problem.

Say, did you get SEEDS on them? How did THAT happen? Mine never do but I
haven't tried to do it by hand (......) yet. Did your plant seed
spontaneously? Did you make a photo of the seedhead? What happened to
the spathe in fruit? Did it remain dried on the fruiting head or was it
shed before that? Thanks for any answers!

Cheers,
Wilbert

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From: "James W. Waddick" <jim-jim at swbell.net> on 1997.10.10 at 22:21:31(1425)
Dear Wilbert;
Oh the embarassment of it all.
The one time my T. giganteum made seeds I was only a passing
observer -sort of.
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From: Krzysztof Kozminski <kk at netgate.net> on 1997.10.11 at 07:45:10(1428)
>Rand Nicholson wrote:
>Ok, so will someone say it like it is.....Sauromatum Typhonium guttatum
>venosum????

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From: SNALICE at aol.com on 1997.10.11 at 18:25:52(1429)
Thank you Krzysztof!
If there is no more past title history to this plant, I will go ahead and
lable it 'Arum Jaimenostia Sauromatum Typhonium cornutum guttatum
venosum....VooDoo lily'. Future names can always be added. It seems to me
that in a couple of decades it should still be identifiable by tracing the
names......unless the plant dies.

Sue

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