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From: Steve at ExoticRainforest.com (ExoticRainforest) on 2008.04.01 at 14:55:33(17261)

Can any of you experts out there tell me the species name of this Scindapus species. A cutting was sent to me several years ago with no name. The thing I found very amusing this morning is many people on the internet think this species is the same thing as Epipremnum aureum. I found that claim on Dave's Garden, UBC, and Garden Web along with a bunch of pseudo-scientific websites. I'd like to do a page for my website so if any of you can let me know where to find a copy of the scientific description I'd appreciate the help.


Steve Lucas

From: Steve at ExoticRainforest.com (ExoticRainforest) on 2008.04.01 at 15:44:44(17262)

I just received a private response on this plant and was told it is being called Philodendron Brazil. Somehow I doubt that is a good name! If anyone knows what it truly is, please speak up! It appears more to me to be a Scinadpus but I am certainly not qualified to say.

Steve Lucas

From: Steve at ExoticRainforest.com (ExoticRainforest) on 2008.04.01 at 15:53:19(17263)

Sorry to talk back to myself, but I just found a photo of this plant on Marek's site noted as a cultivar of Philodedron hederaceum. Does anyone know if this is a cultivated plant or another wild form of P. hederaceum? Or something else?

Steve Lucas

From: growit7 at windstream.net (Tere Baber) on 2008.04.01 at 16:22:24(17265)
I sure don't, thats why I asked you!!
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From: ExoticRainforest
From: abrimaal at wp.pl (AbrimaaL) on 2008.04.01 at 16:27:37(17266)
Hello Steve,

For me it looks like Philodendron hederaceum (variegated).

Marek Argent

From: lbmkjm at yahoo.com (brian lee) on 2008.04.01 at 17:32:19(17267)
Dear Steve,

Aloha. I do not know this plant personally. It is
really difficult to give an identification on sterile
material, but I can comment a little.

There is a Philodendron hederaceum (Jacq.) Schott
'Brasil'. It is illustrated in Harri Lorenzi's book,
unvariegated species is illustrated on p. 212. I have
the third edition. Dr. Eduardo Gonsalves worked on
the Araceae section, so it would be good to let him
comment on this plant. According to the book, this
plant is a selection by Ruben Acosta. Whatever your
plant is, this does look similar....but there are
several look-alike plants. Lorenzi's text says that
the inflorescence is typical of Philodendron
hederaceum, so if you bloom your plant, that will be
important for proper identification.

Just from your photo, it appears your plant has a very
glossy surface...which is not a feature of
Philodendron hederaceum...could your leaves be wet?



From: denis at skg.com (Denis) on 2008.04.01 at 17:35:27(17268)
I'm not a taxonomist but it Looks like a vining Philodendron to me.


From: harrywitmore at witmore.net (Harry Witmore) on 2008.04.01 at 19:15:39(17270)
I think this cultivar is trademarked if I'm not mistaken. I have also seen
it without the green blotch down the middle.

Harry Witmore

From: Steve at ExoticRainforest.com (ExoticRainforest) on 2008.04.01 at 19:34:05(17271)
MessageI was mixed between Philodendron and Scindapus Denis. Whoever sent it to me called it a Scindapus and it has just been on a shelf for quite awhile. I did find the photo on Marek's site but I have a question I can't get answered. Mine is extremely glosssy and I had thought Philodendron hederaceium tended to be velvet or matte. But I will accept whatever I can learn!

Thanks again!

Steve Lucas

From: Steve at ExoticRainforest.com (ExoticRainforest) on 2008.04.01 at 19:34:49(17272)
Thanks Marek. Have you seen this plant with highly glossy leaves?

Steve Lucas

From: Steve at ExoticRainforest.com (ExoticRainforest) on 2008.04.01 at 19:42:23(17273)
Your right on both accounts Harry. I have as many yellow leaves with no pattern as with the variegation. I had another grower send me a copy of the "patent pending" tag this morning with the name Philodendron 'Brazil'. It is the high gloss leaves that is throwing me in a twirl. It does have some resemblance to the four other forms of Philodendron hederaceum I grow including the leaf sheaths, but not the glossy leaves.

Steve Lucas

From: denis at skg.com (Denis) on 2008.04.01 at 19:45:38(17274)
This is probably a sport that occurred in someone's nursery. it has been
in the industry for several years under the cultivar name 'Brazil'.


From: abri1973 at wp.pl (Marek Argent) on 2008.04.01 at 19:59:48(17276)

Juvenile leaves look like they were wet.


From: Steve at ExoticRainforest.com (ExoticRainforest) on 2008.04.01 at 20:13:23(17278)
I guess that solves it then. Philodendorn hederaceum for the tag. Another one!

Thanks for the help guys.

Steve Lucas

From: TheTropix at msn.com (Sherry Gates) on 2008.04.01 at 23:36:17(17282)
MessageHi everyone,
I thought Philodendron hederaceium was better known as P.'Micans'. It is velvety and has a slight bronzy cast to the leaves.

From: lbmkjm at yahoo.com (brian lee) on 2008.04.02 at 01:08:06(17283)
Dear Marek,

Aloha. I just clicked on your website and saw the
photo. The juvenile leaves are certainly glossy in
this cultivar. Do you have Harri Lorenzi's book?
Now, do the mature leaves become satiny or matte?

Here in Hawaii, Philodendron hederaceum has the
reputation of being the "flesh-eating" plant because
the sap is extremely irritating to some people. I
have heard of a couple of people requiring emergency
treatment. Realize that in Hawaii, this species is
naturalized and somewhat invasive, so the dose of
contact was probably large. We have vines that make
thickets that cover many acres. Sorry about the

From: criswick at spiceisle.com (criswick) on 2008.04.02 at 01:13:40(17284)
To me it looks like a variegated form of Philodendron oxycardium.



From: criswick at spiceisle.com (criswick) on 2008.04.02 at 02:08:37(17285)
As far as I know it is Philodendron oxycardium 'Brazil'. John.


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From: Steve at ExoticRainforest.com (ExoticRainforest) on 2008.04.02 at 03:05:35(17287)
MessageSherry, appears you missed our discussion with Dr. Croat last year over that species. P. micans, P. oxycardium, P. scandens and a bunch of others are now all considered Philodendron hederaceum. I accepted that with no problem close to a year ago when Dr. Croat explained it all in detail. My problem with this one was the high gloss leaves. But I can see now it too is just a part of Philodendron hederaceum. Just in case you missed it, here's a link which includes a bunch of Tom's information.


Thanks to everyone for their feedback on this one. I've already added the plant to the page on Philodendron hederaceum.

Steve Lucas

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