Philodenron Burle-Marxii?

From: Steve at ExoticRainforest.com (ExoticRainforest) on 2008.04.16 at 19:08:28(17411) I received some cuttings of this plant with the name Philodendron burle-marxii. I know that to be a species name, but I've also seen this plant as Burle Marx Fantasy. Does anyone know if this is the species or a hybrid? Also, how large will it grow? Joep Moonen told me he is growing this plant but he received his plants from Dewey Fisk and they were not wild collected. Thanks! Steve Lucas +More www.ExoticRainforest.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/private/aroid-l/attachments/20080416/8036217e/attachment-0001.htm -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Philodendron burle-marxii Joep.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 64650 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/private/aroid-l/attachments/20080416/8036217e/attachment-0001.jpg

From: lbmkjm at yahoo.com (brian lee) on 2008.04.16 at 21:38:29(17413) Dear Steve, Aloha. This is another case of plant name confusion. I grow this plant and I got mine from Roberto himself. Unfortunately, I cannot fill in much information about the origin of this plant. The plant you have illustrated is, Philodendron 'Burle-Marx Fantasy'. I do not believe it to be a hybrid, but I am not sure. It is a slow grower and as it matures it loses the markings. I have seen it with 8 inch blades,but I have never seen it blooming. As a vining plant, it is surprising to me how slow it is...but I do not fertilize and perhaps my horticultural attention is faulty. +More What makes it confusing is the name. There is a Philodendron burle-marxii, which is an accepted name. This is a slow vining Philodendron species with broad pendant 2 foot leaf blades. If it is well grown, it is very attractive as a totem specimen or epiphyte. It is best grown from several plants with multiple growing tips so that it fills out. It will remind one of the pendant Anthurium species with narrow blades...but this Philodendron has blades perhaps 4 inches across. Then there is Philodendron 'Burle-Marx'. This is a common landscape plant in Miami...and I believe it was Raymond Jungles, ASLA, that introduced this. This plant is a fast growing, cordate leaved, vining Philodendron that is often pruned to form multiple branching. it can be used in shade or sun and, if pruned is often used as a quick groundcover. There is a nice planting of it at the Kampong in Miami. To add to the confusion, there is another Philodendron ex-Roberto Burle-Marx, that looks very similar to the previous plant...but it is much smaller and much rarer. There are other Philodendron with Burle-Marx's name attached to them...but, I hope the names are only associated with his collection, and not added to the mix of horticultural names...unless they are distinct...such as P. 'Burle-Marx Fantasy'....which if it proves to be a species... Aloha, Leland --- ExoticRainforest wrote: > I received some cuttings of this plant with the name > Philodendron burle-marxii. I know that to be a > species name, but I've also seen this plant as Burle > Marx Fantasy. Does anyone know if this is the > species or a hybrid? Also, how large will it grow? > > Joep Moonen told me he is growing this plant but he > received his plants from Dewey Fisk and they were > not wild collected. > > Thanks! > > Steve Lucas > www.ExoticRainforest.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Aroid-L mailing list > Aroid-L at www.gizmoworks.com > http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ

From: lbmkjm at yahoo.com (brian lee) on 2008.04.17 at 00:47:37(17414) Dear Steve, Aloha. I thought that now would be a good time to sing the praises of my mentor, Roberto Burle-Marx. I think that many do not realize the depth of his legacy. I am just going to list plants named in his honor and then, I will list the named plants that he discovered...there are many more that are un-named. I would also like to add that many of these plants have had their habitats destroyed, so the fact that some of these are in cultivation perpetuates some of the species. Some may not be in cultivation...but I do not know the current status of many of these. Plants named in tribute to Roberto Burle-Marx: Aechmea burle-marxii +More Anthurium burle-marxii Begonia burle-marxii Burlemarxia pungens Burlemarxia rodriguesii Burlemarxia spiralis Calathea burle-marxii 'Ice Blue' Calathea burle-marxii 'Snow Cone' Chaetostoma burle-marxii Cryptanthus burle-marxii Ctenanthe burle-marxii var. burle-marxii Ctenanthe burle-marxii var. obscura Dyckia burle-marxii Encylia burle-marxii Heliconia burle-marxii Hohenbergia burle-marxii Mandevilla burle-marxii Merianthera burle-marxii Microlicia burle-marxii Neoglazovia burle-marxii Neoregelia burle-marxii Orthophytum burle-marxii Philodendron burle-marxii Pitcairnia burle-marxii Pleurostima burle-marxii Pontederia burle-marxii Vellozia burel-marxii Plants discovered by Roberto Burle-Marxii Aechmea correia-araujei Aechmea flavo-rosea Aechmea grazielae Barbecenia minima Calathea fatimae Calathea singularis Heliconia adeliana Heliconia aemygdiana Heliconia marie augustae Heliconia pabstii Hohenbergia edmundoi Hohenbergia lanata Neoregelia elmoriana Orthophytum gurkenii Orthophytum lymanianum Philodendron grazielae Philodendron mello-barretoanum Philodendron pulchrum Pleurostima fanni Pleurostima piquetiana Xerophyta plicata Aloha, Leland Miyano --- ExoticRainforest wrote: > I received some cuttings of this plant with the name > Philodendron burle-marxii. I know that to be a > species name, but I've also seen this plant as Burle > Marx Fantasy. Does anyone know if this is the > species or a hybrid? Also, how large will it grow? > > Joep Moonen told me he is growing this plant but he > received his plants from Dewey Fisk and they were > not wild collected. > > Thanks! > > Steve Lucas > www.ExoticRainforest.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Aroid-L mailing list > Aroid-L at www.gizmoworks.com > http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ

From: hermine at endangeredspecies.com (hermine) on 2008.04.17 at 06:06:58(17415) At 05:47 PM 4/16/2008, you wrote: >Dear Steve, > >Aloha. I thought that now would be a good time to >sing the praises of my mentor, Roberto Burle-Marx. and a BRILLIANT landscape designer. hermine +More -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/private/aroid-l/attachments/20080416/0e4e15fd/attachment-0001.htm

From: Steve at ExoticRainforest.com (ExoticRainforest) on 2008.04.17 at 11:27:29(17416) I was aware Roberto had found a large number of species and that some had been named in his honor. I did not know the list was this long! Excellent information. By the way, I failed to mention that the photo I posted belonged to Joep Moonen. Leland, did you ever see the plant in Joep's photo in Roberto's collection? The plant is not native to French Guiana but Joep does have it in his personal collection. I'm still trying to learn about this particular plant. Enid tells me it can grow large and most seem to believe it is called Burle Marx Fantasy but has no scientific name. Steve Lucas +More Dear Steve, Aloha. I thought that now would be a good time to sing the praises of my mentor, Roberto Burle-Marx. I think that many do not realize the depth of his legacy. I am just going to list plants named in his honor and then, I will list the named plants that he discovered...there are many more that are un-named. I would also like to add that many of these plants have had their habitats destroyed, so the fact that some of these are in cultivation perpetuates some of the species. Some may not be in cultivation...but I do not know the current status of many of these. Plants named in tribute to Roberto Burle-Marx: Aechmea burle-marxii Anthurium burle-marxii Begonia burle-marxii Burlemarxia pungens Burlemarxia rodriguesii Burlemarxia spiralis Calathea burle-marxii 'Ice Blue' Calathea burle-marxii 'Snow Cone' Chaetostoma burle-marxii Cryptanthus burle-marxii Ctenanthe burle-marxii var. burle-marxii Ctenanthe burle-marxii var. obscura Dyckia burle-marxii Encylia burle-marxii Heliconia burle-marxii Hohenbergia burle-marxii Mandevilla burle-marxii Merianthera burle-marxii Microlicia burle-marxii Neoglazovia burle-marxii Neoregelia burle-marxii Orthophytum burle-marxii Philodendron burle-marxii Pitcairnia burle-marxii Pleurostima burle-marxii Pontederia burle-marxii Vellozia burel-marxii Plants discovered by Roberto Burle-Marxii Aechmea correia-araujei Aechmea flavo-rosea Aechmea grazielae Barbecenia minima Calathea fatimae Calathea singularis Heliconia adeliana Heliconia aemygdiana Heliconia marie augustae Heliconia pabstii Hohenbergia edmundoi Hohenbergia lanata Neoregelia elmoriana Orthophytum gurkenii Orthophytum lymanianum Philodendron grazielae Philodendron mello-barretoanum Philodendron pulchrum Pleurostima fanni Pleurostima piquetiana Xerophyta plicata Aloha, Leland Miyano -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/private/aroid-l/attachments/20080417/00bbe91c/attachment-0001.htm

From: Steve at ExoticRainforest.com (ExoticRainforest) on 2008.04.17 at 11:30:30(17417) Leland, you just answered my last question in great detail! Thanks for the always excellent input. Steve +More Dear Steve, Aloha. This is another case of plant name confusion. I grow this plant and I got mine from Roberto himself. Unfortunately, I cannot fill in much information about the origin of this plant. The plant you have illustrated is, Philodendron 'Burle-Marx Fantasy'. I do not believe it to be a hybrid, but I am not sure. It is a slow grower and as it matures it loses the markings. I have seen it with 8 inch blades,but I have never seen it blooming. As a vining plant, it is surprising to me how slow it is...but I do not fertilize and perhaps my horticultural attention is faulty. What makes it confusing is the name. There is a Philodendron burle-marxii, which is an accepted name. This is a slow vining Philodendron species with broad pendant 2 foot leaf blades. If it is well grown, it is very attractive as a totem specimen or epiphyte. It is best grown from several plants with multiple growing tips so that it fills out. It will remind one of the pendant Anthurium species with narrow blades...but this Philodendron has blades perhaps 4 inches across. Then there is Philodendron 'Burle-Marx'. This is a common landscape plant in Miami...and I believe it was Raymond Jungles, ASLA, that introduced this. This plant is a fast growing, cordate leaved, vining Philodendron that is often pruned to form multiple branching. it can be used in shade or sun and, if pruned is often used as a quick groundcover. There is a nice planting of it at the Kampong in Miami. To add to the confusion, there is another Philodendron ex-Roberto Burle-Marx, that looks very similar to the previous plant...but it is much smaller and much rarer. There are other Philodendron with Burle-Marx's name attached to them...but, I hope the names are only associated with his collection, and not added to the mix of horticultural names...unless they are distinct...such as P. 'Burle-Marx Fantasy'....which if it proves to be a species... Aloha, Leland -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/private/aroid-l/attachments/20080417/3b1affcb/attachment-0001.htm

From: hluther at selby.org (Harry Luther) on 2008.04.17 at 14:50:55(17418) Dear Leland; you forgot Tillandsia burle-marxii. HEL -----Original Message----- From: aroid-l-bounces at gizmoworks.com +More [mailto:aroid-l-bounces at gizmoworks.com]On Behalf Of brian lee Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 8:48 PM To: Discussion of aroids Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Philodenron Burle-Marxii? Dear Steve, Aloha. I thought that now would be a good time to sing the praises of my mentor, Roberto Burle-Marx. I think that many do not realize the depth of his legacy. I am just going to list plants named in his honor and then, I will list the named plants that he discovered...there are many more that are un-named. I would also like to add that many of these plants have had their habitats destroyed, so the fact that some of these are in cultivation perpetuates some of the species. Some may not be in cultivation...but I do not know the current status of many of these. Plants named in tribute to Roberto Burle-Marx: Aechmea burle-marxii Anthurium burle-marxii Begonia burle-marxii Burlemarxia pungens Burlemarxia rodriguesii Burlemarxia spiralis Calathea burle-marxii 'Ice Blue' Calathea burle-marxii 'Snow Cone' Chaetostoma burle-marxii Cryptanthus burle-marxii Ctenanthe burle-marxii var. burle-marxii Ctenanthe burle-marxii var. obscura Dyckia burle-marxii Encylia burle-marxii Heliconia burle-marxii Hohenbergia burle-marxii Mandevilla burle-marxii Merianthera burle-marxii Microlicia burle-marxii Neoglazovia burle-marxii Neoregelia burle-marxii Orthophytum burle-marxii Philodendron burle-marxii Pitcairnia burle-marxii Pleurostima burle-marxii Pontederia burle-marxii Vellozia burel-marxii Plants discovered by Roberto Burle-Marxii Aechmea correia-araujei Aechmea flavo-rosea Aechmea grazielae Barbecenia minima Calathea fatimae Calathea singularis Heliconia adeliana Heliconia aemygdiana Heliconia marie augustae Heliconia pabstii Hohenbergia edmundoi Hohenbergia lanata Neoregelia elmoriana Orthophytum gurkenii Orthophytum lymanianum Philodendron grazielae Philodendron mello-barretoanum Philodendron pulchrum Pleurostima fanni Pleurostima piquetiana Xerophyta plicata Aloha, Leland Miyano --- ExoticRainforest wrote: > I received some cuttings of this plant with the name > Philodendron burle-marxii. I know that to be a > species name, but I've also seen this plant as Burle > Marx Fantasy. Does anyone know if this is the > species or a hybrid? Also, how large will it grow? > > Joep Moonen told me he is growing this plant but he > received his plants from Dewey Fisk and they were > not wild collected. > > Thanks! > > Steve Lucas > www.ExoticRainforest.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Aroid-L mailing list > Aroid-L at www.gizmoworks.com > http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L at www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: Thomas.Croat at mobot.org (Tom Croat) on 2008.04.21 at 23:56:02(17436) Steve: This certainly is not P. burlemarxii which has sort of strap-shaped leaves. I don't know the latter plant at all since it is not published. Tom +More ________________________________ From: aroid-l-bounces at gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces at gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of ExoticRainforest Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 2:08 PM To: Discussion of aroids Subject: [Aroid-l] Philodenron Burle-Marxii? I received some cuttings of this plant with the name Philodendron burle-marxii. I know that to be a species name, but I've also seen this plant as Burle Marx Fantasy. Does anyone know if this is the species or a hybrid? Also, how large will it grow? Joep Moonen told me he is growing this plant but he received his plants from Dewey Fisk and they were not wild collected. Thanks! Steve Lucas www.ExoticRainforest.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/private/aroid-l/attachments/20080421/0a7f4504/attachment-0001.htm

From: Steve at ExoticRainforest.com (ExoticRainforest) on 2008.04.22 at 16:07:06(17438) Thanks Tom. The specimen, whatever it truly is, has been sold frequently as Philodendron Burle Marx Fantasy. It brings a fairly high price on some websites. I have no idea what it might be, but I'd sure like to know where it originated! Steve Lucas +More www.ExoticRainforest.com Steve: This certainly is not P. burlemarxii which has sort of strap-shaped leaves. I don't know the latter plant at all since it is not published. Tom -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/private/aroid-l/attachments/20080422/a0c0c673/attachment-0001.htm

From: lbmkjm at yahoo.com (brian lee) on 2008.04.26 at 18:28:03(17470) Dear Harry, Aloha. I did not forget Tillandsia burle-marxii...I did not know about it so I added it to the list. Thank you for the information...Roberto will be happy to be remembered. +More Thanks again. Aloha, Leland --- Harry Luther wrote: > Dear Leland; you forgot Tillandsia burle-marxii. > HEL > > -----Original Message----- > From: aroid-l-bounces at gizmoworks.com > [mailto:aroid-l-bounces at gizmoworks.com]On Behalf Of > brian lee > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 8:48 PM > To: Discussion of aroids > Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Philodenron Burle-Marxii? > > > Dear Steve, > > Aloha. I thought that now would be a good time to > sing the praises of my mentor, Roberto Burle-Marx. > I > think that many do not realize the depth of his > legacy. I am just going to list plants named in his > honor and then, I will list the named plants that he > discovered...there are many more that are un-named. > I > would also like to add that many of these plants > have > had their habitats destroyed, so the fact that some > of > these are in cultivation perpetuates some of the > species. Some may not be in cultivation...but I do > not know the current status of many of these. > > Plants named in tribute to Roberto Burle-Marx: > > Aechmea burle-marxii > Anthurium burle-marxii > Begonia burle-marxii > Burlemarxia pungens > Burlemarxia rodriguesii > Burlemarxia spiralis > Calathea burle-marxii 'Ice Blue' > Calathea burle-marxii 'Snow Cone' > Chaetostoma burle-marxii > Cryptanthus burle-marxii > Ctenanthe burle-marxii var. burle-marxii > Ctenanthe burle-marxii var. obscura > Dyckia burle-marxii > Encylia burle-marxii > Heliconia burle-marxii > Hohenbergia burle-marxii > Mandevilla burle-marxii > Merianthera burle-marxii > Microlicia burle-marxii > Neoglazovia burle-marxii > Neoregelia burle-marxii > Orthophytum burle-marxii > Philodendron burle-marxii > Pitcairnia burle-marxii > Pleurostima burle-marxii > Pontederia burle-marxii > Vellozia burel-marxii > > Plants discovered by Roberto Burle-Marxii > > Aechmea correia-araujei > Aechmea flavo-rosea > Aechmea grazielae > Barbecenia minima > Calathea fatimae > Calathea singularis > Heliconia adeliana > Heliconia aemygdiana > Heliconia marie augustae > Heliconia pabstii > Hohenbergia edmundoi > Hohenbergia lanata > Neoregelia elmoriana > Orthophytum gurkenii > Orthophytum lymanianum > Philodendron grazielae > Philodendron mello-barretoanum > Philodendron pulchrum > Pleurostima fanni > Pleurostima piquetiana > Xerophyta plicata > > Aloha, > > Leland Miyano > --- ExoticRainforest > wrote: > > > I received some cuttings of this plant with the > name > > Philodendron burle-marxii. I know that to be a > > species name, but I've also seen this plant as > Burle > > Marx Fantasy. Does anyone know if this is the > > species or a hybrid? Also, how large will it > grow? > > > > Joep Moonen told me he is growing this plant but > he > > received his plants from Dewey Fisk and they were > > not wild collected. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Steve Lucas > > www.ExoticRainforest.com > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Aroid-L mailing list > > Aroid-L at www.gizmoworks.com > > http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > _______________________________________________ > Aroid-L mailing list > Aroid-L at www.gizmoworks.com > http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l > _______________________________________________ > Aroid-L mailing list > Aroid-L at www.gizmoworks.com > http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ

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