Amorphophallus ebay

From: honeybunny442 at yahoo.com (Susan B) on 2008.06.03 at 14:04:29(17715) Well, I have to open my big mouth and defend the listings of Amorphophallus as rare. While Amorphophallus may be common to us Aroidphiles, they aren't common to the average home gardener. If they were, Plant Delights wouldn't be getting the prices they ask (no offence, Tony), and we wouldn't be getting the "how do I grow" and "what do I do with" questions that we get here on Aroid-L. Probably wouldn't have much of a IAS, either, if they were all common as weeds. If you look at the Aroid forums on GardenWeb or Daves' Garden, you'll see lots of beginners- people new to aroids. I answer Zantedeschia questions all the time, although the planting of bulbs seems much easier to me than regular flowers or shrubs. However, I'm sure there's an argument that a plant being new to someone does not classify it as rare! I'm learning about Canna's, never grew them before, but they certainly aren't rare as a group, although some varieties may be... People always seem to buy first and find information about the plant second. Those of you that help out on the forums know what I mean. Brian Williams and LariAnn are always answering questions. I often wonder why people buy expensive plants and then try to find out about them, or blame the seller when they kill the plant through miss-care. Often they don't even listen to advice but try to push growth through a dormant phase. Oh, just don't even get me started! Look at Erin, here- has bought many titanums and other Amorphs and then asks for growing advice- no offense Erin, at least you ask for help! Back to the "RARE" Aroids, it's true- I've never seen a Amorph listed on AU-ebay that isn't rare- and they're usually bulbifer or konjac, or listed as riverii, which sounds new and different (snort). HOWEVER- when I'm in the mood for a new type of plant, I often do a search for "rare" in the plant section of ebay, and while a great deal of the selections are laughable, occasionally I do find something interesting that I want to learn more about. So, it really doesn't bother me when an Aroid is labeled rare. Then again, I'm just an opinionated old lady! Susan +More --- On Mon, 6/2/08, Michael Pascall wrote: From: Michael Pascall Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Amorphophallus henryi, koratensis, titanum's To: "Discussion of aroids" Date: Monday, June 2, 2008, 11:02 PM #yiv1174700889 .hmmessage P { margin:0px;padding:0px;} #yiv1174700889 .hmmessage { FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma;} HA HA every Amorphophallus sp. listed on ebay is RARE !! even the weedy A.bulbifer .. I saw someone recently pay way over $50 for a small tuber ,, shocking .. I have been congratulated a few times for listing plants that are truely rare .. Michael Pascall, >> Now, i'm not really "up" on Newtonian physics, but isn't > there some universal law which states that all Amorphs on > eBay, regardless of labelling, are konjac? > > The best advice I can give -- which others will no doubt > repeat -- is that you get yourself the reprint of Aroideana > volume 19 (1996), the Amorphophallus issue. > > Jason Hernandez > Naturalist-at-Large > _______________________________________________ > Aroid-L mailing list > Aroid-L at www.gizmoworks.com > http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l Hotmail on your mobile. Never miss another e-mail with _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L at www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/private/aroid-l/attachments/20080603/218c5bae/attachment.htm

From: ironious2 at yahoo.com (E Morano) on 2008.06.03 at 21:26:03(17722) Im currently in the process of collecting with the purpose of selling amorph's on ebay. Ive been selling a lot of titans and will continue to do so until nobody wants them anymore. I have access to nearly 4000 of them. The fella Im getting them from cant seem to sell any. I think he's running to big of an operation to be able to list each plant bulb individually I honestly dont know. But so far the titans are selling like hotcakes. Oh yeah, I promise never to list a plant as rare. I prefer to let the collectors who really know what's what make that decision. I dont need hype to sell these. Its a nitch market. I just wish I could find a better source for care instructions. Speaking of rare, someone is selling ANTHURIUM WENDLINGERI. I wouldnt mind having that but I read that its a difficult plant. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item0223598945&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih7 +More Susan B wrote: Well, I have to open my big mouth and defend the listings of Amorphophallus as rare. While Amorphophallus may be common to us Aroidphiles, they aren't common to the average home gardener. If they were, Plant Delights wouldn't be getting the prices they ask (no offence, Tony), and we wouldn't be getting the "how do I grow" and "what do I do with" questions that we get here on Aroid-L. Probably wouldn't have much of a IAS, either, if they were all common as weeds. If you look at the Aroid forums on GardenWeb or Daves' Garden, you'll see lots of beginners- people new to aroids. I answer Zantedeschia questions all the time, although the planting of bulbs seems much easier to me than regular flowers or shrubs. However, I'm sure there's an argument that a plant being new to someone does not classify it as rare! I'm learning about Canna's, never grew them before, but they certainly aren't rare as a group, although some varieties may be... People always seem to buy first and find information about the plant second. Those of you that help out on the forums know what I mean. Brian Williams and LariAnn are always answering questions. I often wonder why people buy expensive plants and then try to find out about them, or blame the seller when they kill the plant through miss-care. Often they don't even listen to advice but try to push growth through a dormant phase. Oh, just don't even get me started! Look at Erin, here- has bought many titanums and other Amorphs and then asks for growing advice- no offense Erin, at least you ask for help! Back to the "RARE" Aroids, it's true- I've never seen a Amorph listed on AU-ebay that isn't rare- and they're usually bulbifer or konjac, or listed as riverii, which sounds new and different (snort). HOWEVER- when I'm in the mood for a new type of plant, I often do a search for "rare" in the plant section of ebay, and while a great deal of the selections are laughable, occasionally I do find something interesting that I want to learn more about. So, it really doesn't bother me when an Aroid is labeled rare. Then again, I'm just an opinionated old lady! Susan --- On Mon, 6/2/08, Michael Pascall wrote: From: Michael Pascall Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Amorphophallus henryi, koratensis, titanum's To: "Discussion of aroids" Date: Monday, June 2, 2008, 11:02 PM #yiv1174700889 .hmmessage P { margin:0px;padding:0px;} #yiv1174700889 .hmmessage { FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma;} HA HA every Amorphophallus sp. listed on ebay is RARE !! even the weedy A.bulbifer .. I saw someone recently pay way over $50 for a small tuber ,, shocking .. I have been congratulated a few times for listing plants that are truely rare .. Michael Pascall, >> Now, i'm not really "up" on Newtonian physics, but isn't > there some universal law which states that all Amorphs on > eBay, regardless of labelling, are konjac? > > The best advice I can give -- which others will no doubt > repeat -- is that you get yourself the reprint of Aroideana > volume 19 (1996), the Amorphophallus issue. > > Jason Hernandez > Naturalist-at-Large > _______________________________________________ > Aroid-L mailing list > Aroid-L at www.gizmoworks.com > http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l --------------------------------- Hotmail on your mobile. Never miss another e-mail with _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L at www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L at www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/private/aroid-l/attachments/20080603/32319749/attachment-0001.htm

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From: mossytrail at hctc.com (mossytrail) on 2008.06.04 at 23:55:25(17744) > While Amorphophallus may be common to us Aroidphiles, they > aren't common to the average home gardener.? If they > were, Plant Delights wouldn't be getting the prices they > ask (no offence, Tony), and we wouldn't be getting the > "how do I grow" and "what do I do with" questions that we > get here on Aroid-L.? Probably wouldn't have much of > a IAS, either, if they were all common as weeds. > That's a good point. On Aroid-L, Amorphophallus looks like the most common aroid genus in cultivation, if we were to judge by the number of posts we get about it relative to other genera. No offense, but the sheer number of Amorph posts I see here has caused me to become completely uninterested in the genus. Unless of course I can find A. smithsonianus :) +More But leave Aroid-L and look at what is actually out there in people's homes, and Amorphs are few and far between. Mostly, you see Monstera deliciosa, Dieffenbachia, Scindapsus aureus, Philodendron, and Algaonema. None of which genera see much discussion at all on Aroid-L. > People always seem to buy first and find information about > the plant second.? Those of you that help out on the > forums know what I mean.?? Brian Williams and > LariAnn are always answering questions.? I often > wonder why people buy expensive plants and then try to > find out about them, or blame the seller when they kill > the plant through miss-care.? Often they don't even > listen to advice but try to push growth through a dormant > phase. Oh, just don't even get me started!? Look at > Erin, here- has bought many titanums and other Amorphs and > then asks for growing advice- no offense Erin, at least > you ask for help! > Because people don't think of plants as biological organisms with specific needs. People buy plants as ornamental objects, and expect them to act like artworks or pieces of furniture. Or, if they do think of plants as alive, they think in terms of the goldfish in the aquarium in the family room -- a fairly tolerant and hardy creature which can survive under less-than-exactling care, thus allowing minimal disruption of household life and routine. The beauty of a plant attracts; but then when they find out how specific its needs are, they realize too late they've bitten off more than they could chew. So they fall back on generalized houseplant advice and hope for the best -- what works for ficus trees and philodendrons should work for all houseplants, right? I saved myself a heartache once by asking before buying. It was a vanilla orchid, and it's a good thing I asked -- I was told they need to be misted every day, and that they can grow up a tree in a single season. Obviously would not have worked in my small apartment, especially with the line of work I was in then, not always coming home every night. If I had bought first, asking advice would have done no good -- I would not have been able to follow it. > Back to the "RARE" Aroids, it's true- I've never seen a > Amorph listed on? AU-ebay that isn't rare- and > they're usually bulbifer or konjac, or listed as riverii, > which sounds new and different (snort).? HOWEVER- > when I'm in the mood for a new type of plant, I often do a > search for "rare" in the plant section of ebay, and while > a great deal of the selections are laughable, occasionally > I do find something interesting that I want to learn more > about. So, it really doesn't bother me when an Aroid is > labeled rare. > Rare is relative anyway. But I do object to mis-labeling of plants (riverii?). Jason Hernandez Naturalist-at-Large

From: honeybunny442 at yahoo.com (Susan B) on 2008.06.05 at 21:36:16(17758) As usual, a good post, Jason. However, my vanilla orchid that gets watered about every 2 weeks would be surprised to hear it's supposed to be misted every day. Then again I'll bet it was surprised when my dog knocked over a tree on top of it and then ripped it out of it's pot. susan +More - -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/private/aroid-l/attachments/20080605/fbe76dad/attachment-0001.htm

From: Steve at ExoticRainforest.com (ExoticRainforest) on 2008.06.06 at 03:54:33(17767) Susan, we water all of our orchids, including a vanilla orchid, twice a day! All 150 plus of them! Steve Lucas +More www.ExoticRainforest.com As usual, a good post, Jason. However, my vanilla orchid that gets watered about every 2 weeks would be surprised to hear it's supposed to be misted every day. Then again I'll bet it was surprised when my dog knocked over a tree on top of it and then ripped it out of it's pot. susan - -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/private/aroid-l/attachments/20080605/a1620658/attachment-0001.htm

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