From: harrywitmore at witmore.net (Harry Witmore) on 2008.06.05 at 21:38:07(17759)
Leland, I totally agree and I need to make clear that I have no idea which
is correct and it really doesn?t matter that much to me. It just seems that
it's way to confusing. Also, I guess in terms of plant names, 7 years is a
lifetime.
Many people I know that deal with Orchids, Cactus, Gesneriads and on and on
just stick with the name they received the plant as. But, I suspect this
practice is one way bad names are proliferated. Just visit a botanical
garden. I went to one here recently, not UNCC's, that wasn't even close on
the genus names of some of their plants on display. That was very
disappointing to me.
I really admire Steve's tenacity in trying to get to the most correct name
and the reason why. I just don?t have the drive to do that I guess.
Harry Witmore
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From: aroid-l-bounces at gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces at gizmoworks.com]
On Behalf Of brian lee
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 8:47 AM
To: Discussion of aroids
Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] message from Robbin C. Moran regarding
myidentificationof the club mosses
Dear Harry,
Aloha.
Barbara Joe Hoshizaki should be contacted and asked about the status of
Huperzia in her opinion. If you look at,The Fern Grower's Manual, you will
notice that the junior author is Dr. Robbin C. Moran.
I agree that this is a wonderful reference for fern and fern allies...but it
was published in 2001.
Aloha,
Leland
--- Harry Witmore wrote:
> This seems strange to me. Robbin recommends Barbara Joe Hoshizaki's
> book which considers both of the species as Lycopodium.but he says
> both are Huperzia. Barbara's book is very technical and a great
> resource to id ferns.
>
> Harry Witmore
> Cloud Jungle Epiphytes
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> From: aroid-l-bounces at gizmoworks.com
> [mailto:aroid-l-bounces at gizmoworks.com]
> On Behalf Of ExoticRainforest
> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 9:39 AM
> To: Discussion of aroids
> Subject: [Aroid-l] message from Robbin C. Moran regarding my
> identificationof the club mosses
>
>
> Leland recommended I contact Robbin C. Moran, Ph.D., Curator of Ferns
> at the New York Botanical Garden. This is Robbin's response as to my
> identifications on both species of club moss.
>
> Looks like I'll be changing the genus on the second one!
>
> Steve Lucas
> HYPERLINK
>
"http://www.ExoticRainforest.com"www.ExoticRainforest.com
>
>
> Dear Steve,
>
> I agree that the plant on your web site is correctly identified as
> Huperzia phlegmaria. The one in the attached images you sent is H.
> nummulariifolia
> (Blume) Chambers, Jermy & Crabbe. Its wide elliptic leaves, appressed
> to the stem, are unique within the genus, as far as I know.
> Both are Old World
> species, and my expertise is primarily on New World tropical ferns, so
> I don?t have any interesting stories to tell you about them--sorry! I
> do, however, have two books that might help you in the future with
> information for your web site. One is about fern cultivation:
> Fern Grower?s Manual (with
> first author Barabara Joe Hoshizaki) and the other is A Natural
> History of Ferns (Timber Press, 2004). The latter is a popular (i.e.,
> non-technical) book about ferns and lycophytes. It is not an
> identification guide, but tells about what ferns are doing in nature.
> Many of the things you mention on your web page for H. phlegmaria are
> also discussed in that book.
>
> Good luck with your web site!
>
> Best wishes,
> Robbin
>
> Robbin C. Moran, Ph.D.
> Curator of Ferns
> The New York Botanical Garden
> 200th Street & Southern Blvd.
> Bronx, NY 10458-5126 U.S.A.
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