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Zantedeschia sprengeri
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From: tony at plantdelights.com (Tony Avent) on 2008.06.24 at 14:20:16(17940)
Aroiders:
In researching some of the new fancy flowered callas, many are being
patented as selections or hybrids of Z. sprengeri. I found this name
originating in the Kew Bulletin in 1924, but not much else. Any ideas
if this is a valid species, and if so, where has it been hiding? Any
input would be most appreciated.
--
Tony Avent
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Plant Delights Nursery @
Juniper Level Botanic Garden
9241 Sauls Road
Raleigh, North Carolina 27603 USA
Minimum Winter Temps 0-5 F
Maximum Summer Temps 95-105F
USDA Hardiness Zone 7b
email tony at plantdelights.com
website http://www.plantdelights.com
phone 919 772-4794
fax 919 772-4752
"I consider every plant hardy until I have killed it myself...at least three times" - Avent
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From: aroids at numericable.fr (Scherberich) on 2008.06.24 at 16:54:13(17943)
Dear Tony,
It is listed as a synonym of Z. pentlandii in Kew World Checklist ...
http://apps.kew.org/wcsp/namedetail.do?
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accepted_id!5550&repSynonym_id8504&name_id!5553&statusúlse
Z. pentlandii was described in Gartenflora ... I can check tomorrow
if there is a plate with the description if you are interested ...
With best regards,
David
Le 24 juin 08 ? 16:20, Tony Avent a ?crit :
> Aroiders:
>
> In researching some of the new fancy flowered callas, many are being
> patented as selections or hybrids of Z. sprengeri. I found this name
> originating in the Kew Bulletin in 1924, but not much else. Any ideas
> if this is a valid species, and if so, where has it been hiding? Any
> input would be most appreciated.
>
> --
> Tony Avent
> Plant Delights Nursery @
> Juniper Level Botanic Garden
> 9241 Sauls Road
> Raleigh, North Carolina 27603 USA
> Minimum Winter Temps 0-5 F
> Maximum Summer Temps 95-105F
> USDA Hardiness Zone 7b
> email tony at plantdelights.com
> website http://www.plantdelights.com
> phone 919 772-4794
> fax 919 772-4752
> "I consider every plant hardy until I have killed it myself...at
> least three times" - Avent
>
> _______________________________________________
> Aroid-L mailing list
> Aroid-L at www.gizmoworks.com
> http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l
David SCHERBERICH
110 Montee de la Grande Cote
69001 LYON
FRANCE
Email: aroids at numericable.fr
http://www.aroidpictures.fr
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From: tony at plantdelights.com (Tony Avent) on 2008.06.25 at 11:42:46(17953)
David:
I figured it had to be a synonym...interesting that the name Z. spengeri
is still being used in new patent applications.
Tony Avent
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Plant Delights Nursery @
Juniper Level Botanic Garden
9241 Sauls Road
Raleigh, North Carolina 27603 USA
Minimum Winter Temps 0-5 F
Maximum Summer Temps 95-105F
USDA Hardiness Zone 7b
email tony at plantdelights.com
website http://www.plantdelights.com
phone 919 772-4794
fax 919 772-4752
"I consider every plant hardy until I have killed it myself...at least three times" - Avent
Scherberich wrote:
> Dear Tony,
>
> It is listed as a synonym of Z. pentlandii in Kew World Checklist ...
>
> http://apps.kew.org/wcsp/namedetail.do?accepted_id!5550&repSynonym_id8504&name_id!5553&statusúlse
>
>
> Z. pentlandii was described in Gartenflora ... I can check tomorrow if
> there is a plate with the description if you are interested ...
>
> With best regards,
>
> David
>
> Le 24 juin 08 ? 16:20, Tony Avent a ?crit :
>
>> Aroiders:
>>
>> In researching some of the new fancy flowered callas, many are being
>> patented as selections or hybrids of Z. sprengeri. I found this name
>> originating in the Kew Bulletin in 1924, but not much else. Any ideas
>> if this is a valid species, and if so, where has it been hiding? Any
>> input would be most appreciated.
>>
>> --
>> Tony Avent
>> Plant Delights Nursery @
>> Juniper Level Botanic Garden
>> 9241 Sauls Road
>> Raleigh, North Carolina 27603 USA
>> Minimum Winter Temps 0-5 F
>> Maximum Summer Temps 95-105F
>> USDA Hardiness Zone 7b
>> email tony at plantdelights.com
>> website http://www.plantdelights.com
>> phone 919 772-4794
>> fax 919 772-4752
>> "I consider every plant hardy until I have killed it myself...at
>> least three times" - Avent
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Aroid-L mailing list
>> Aroid-L at www.gizmoworks.com
>> http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l
>
> David SCHERBERICH
> 110 Montee de la Grande Cote
> 69001 LYON
> FRANCE
>
> Email: aroids at numericable.fr
> http://www.aroidpictures.fr
>
>
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From: honeybunny442 at yahoo.com (Susan B) on 2008.06.25 at 15:21:17(17957)
Tony,
This is only my opinion, but I wondered if it was a sort of generic term, like Philodendron Schott- but let me hasten to say taxonomy is not my field at all!?
I do have a special interest in Zantedeschia, however.? I know the name Zantedeschia hybrid or 'Mini Callas' don't sit well with me, they are not worthy of these beautiful plants. You just don't see other hybrids or colored flowers referred to that way. As an example, tulips have many varieties, they are listed as Tulip 'Apricot Beauty' or whatever, not Tulip hybrid 'Apricot Beauty'.
Zantedeschia are so confusing to the average (US) gardener- Giant Calla, Mini Calla, hybrids- grow them in a pond, don't let them get too wet, I get questions about them all the time.? Those of you on Dave's Garden or especially Garden Web know what I mean!
Something should be done with the names- if nothing else, it will make them more marketable!
Susan
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From: aroids at numericable.fr (Scherberich) on 2008.07.02 at 22:20:05(18055)
Dear Tony,
Here is the promised plate ...
With best regards,
David
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Le 25 juin 08 ? 13:42, Tony Avent a ?crit :
> David:
>
> I figured it had to be a synonym...interesting that the name Z.
> spengeri
> is still being used in new patent applications.
>
> Tony Avent
> Plant Delights Nursery @
> Juniper Level Botanic Garden
> 9241 Sauls Road
> Raleigh, North Carolina 27603 USA
> Minimum Winter Temps 0-5 F
> Maximum Summer Temps 95-105F
> USDA Hardiness Zone 7b
> email tony at plantdelights.com
> website http://www.plantdelights.com
> phone 919 772-4794
> fax 919 772-4752
> "I consider every plant hardy until I have killed it myself...at
> least three times" - Avent
>
>
>
> Scherberich wrote:
>> Dear Tony,
>>
>> It is listed as a synonym of Z. pentlandii in Kew World Checklist ...
>>
>> http://apps.kew.org/wcsp/namedetail.do?
>> accepted_id!5550&repSynonym_id8504&name_id!5553&statusúlse
>>
>> accepted_id!5550&repSynonym_id8504&name_id!5553&statusúlse>
>>
>> Z. pentlandii was described in Gartenflora ... I can check
>> tomorrow if
>> there is a plate with the description if you are interested ...
>>
>> With best regards,
>>
>> David
>>
>> Le 24 juin 08 ? 16:20, Tony Avent a ?crit :
>>
>>> Aroiders:
>>>
>>> In researching some of the new fancy flowered callas, many are being
>>> patented as selections or hybrids of Z. sprengeri. I found this
>>> name
>>> originating in the Kew Bulletin in 1924, but not much else. Any
>>> ideas
>>> if this is a valid species, and if so, where has it been hiding?
>>> Any
>>> input would be most appreciated.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Tony Avent
>>> Plant Delights Nursery @
>>> Juniper Level Botanic Garden
>>> 9241 Sauls Road
>>> Raleigh, North Carolina 27603 USA
>>> Minimum Winter Temps 0-5 F
>>> Maximum Summer Temps 95-105F
>>> USDA Hardiness Zone 7b
>>> email tony at plantdelights.com
>>> website http://www.plantdelights.com
>>> phone 919 772-4794
>>> fax 919 772-4752
>>> "I consider every plant hardy until I have killed it myself...at
>>> least three times" - Avent
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Aroid-L mailing list
>>> Aroid-L at www.gizmoworks.com
>>> http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l
>>
>>
Email: aroids at numericable.fr
http://www.aroidpictures.fr
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From: ju-bo at msn.com (ju-bo at msn.com) on 2008.07.03 at 09:23:08(18059)
________________________________
> From: aroids at numericable.fr
> Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 00:20:05 +0200
> To: aroid-l at gizmoworks.com
> Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Zantedeschia sprengeri
>
Dear David,
Allow me to thank you for sharing this true treasure with all of us at aroid-l! Tony AND Susan must be VERY happy aroidophiles today! This illustrates the wonderful Botanical art that was done ''back in the day'', 1898 in this case. The only other example of art in this quality which comes to mind at this moment (it is early here in WPB), and which were created in the past few years are the color illustrations done by the masters at Kew, which illustrate Peter Boyce`s fantastic book on the genus Arum! As I have said time and time again, even if you are NOT an Arum person, this small book is well worth the investement (under U.S.$100.00?) just for the art!
Good Growing!
Julius
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> Dear Tony,
>
> Here is the promised plate ...
>
> With best regards,
>
> David
>
> [http://bl142w.blu142.mail.live.com/mail/SafeRedirect.aspx?hm__tg=http://65.55.175.87/att/GetAttachment.aspx&hm__qs=file%3d43a815ec-7b43-4ee9-817f-adfd2dacd64f.jpg%26ct%3daW1hZ2UvanBlZw_3d_3d%26name%3dWmFudGVkZXNjaGlhIHBlbnRsYW5kaWkgR2FydGVuZmxvcmEuanBn%26inline%3d1%26rfc%3d0%26empty%3dFalse%26imgsrc%3dcid%253aDBD922A8-DD01-41B8-8B01-DFE82413FD63%2540net-80-236-85.joinville.rev.numericable.fr&oneredir=1&ip.4.71.8&dÓ884&mf2]
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> Le 25 juin 08 ? 13:42, Tony Avent a ?crit :
>
> David:
>
> I figured it had to be a synonym...interesting that the name Z. spengeri
> is still being used in new patent applications.
>
> Tony Avent
> Plant Delights Nursery @
> Juniper Level Botanic Garden
> 9241 Sauls Road
> Raleigh, North Carolina 27603 USA
> Minimum Winter Temps 0-5 F
> Maximum Summer Temps 95-105F
> USDA Hardiness Zone 7b
> email tony at plantdelights.com
> website http://www.plantdelights.com
> phone 919 772-4794
> fax 919 772-4752
> "I consider every plant hardy until I have killed it myself...at least three times" - Avent
>
>
>
> Scherberich wrote:
> Dear Tony,
>
> It is listed as a synonym of Z. pentlandii in Kew World Checklist ...
>
> http://apps.kew.org/wcsp/namedetail.do?accepted_id!5550&repSynonym_id8504&name_id!5553&statusúlse
>
>
> Z. pentlandii was described in Gartenflora ... I can check tomorrow if
> there is a plate with the description if you are interested ...
>
> With best regards,
>
> David
>
> Le 24 juin 08 ? 16:20, Tony Avent a ?crit :
>
> Aroiders:
>
> In researching some of the new fancy flowered callas, many are being
> patented as selections or hybrids of Z. sprengeri. I found this name
> originating in the Kew Bulletin in 1924, but not much else. Any ideas
> if this is a valid species, and if so, where has it been hiding? Any
> input would be most appreciated.
>
> --
> Tony Avent
> Plant Delights Nursery @
> Juniper Level Botanic Garden
> 9241 Sauls Road
> Raleigh, North Carolina 27603 USA
> Minimum Winter Temps 0-5 F
> Maximum Summer Temps 95-105F
> USDA Hardiness Zone 7b
> email tony at plantdelights.com
> website http://www.plantdelights.com
> phone 919 772-4794
> fax 919 772-4752
> "I consider every plant hardy until I have killed it myself...at
> least three times" - Avent
>
> _______________________________________________
> Aroid-L mailing list
> Aroid-L at www.gizmoworks.com
> http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l
>
>
>
> Email: aroids at numericable.fr
> http://www.aroidpictures.fr
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