Defending Pinellia ternata ???

From: "James W. Waddick" <jim-jim at swbell.net> on 1997.10.24 at 14:12:16(1490) >Jim Waddick commented "I think you might try all the species with a >warning on P. ternata (try it in a pot and don't mix soils or keep the >pot near fertile ground)." > +More >Diana Nicholls wrote: >Don't even try this in a >pot. Dear Diana, et al; I must confess that I live in a much harsher climate than Diana. In her mellower climate, I bet it can be agressive, but then again I don't know that I'd mind an Aroid ground cover under junipers (unless it has already be planted in Cyclamen or some such). In the mild New Zealand 'Eden', there is also a chance it could get "away". The above ground bulbils do roll around, get carried around and appear in areas not purposely planted. In defense, it is quite easy to pull out, the foliage and flowers are rather interesting and it is easy to grow (that is not a euphemism for 'weed'!). I'd still suggest you try it, but maybe use even more caution than I originally suggested. I have seen this growing in China as a sizeable clump on a rock wall in about a teaspoon of soil so it does 'hang on". best Jim W. ......and don't blame me if...... James W. Waddick Voice: 816 746 1949 8871 NW Brostrom Rd E-MAIL: jim-jim@swbell.net Kansas City MO 64152 Fax: 816 746 1939 Zone 5/6 - Winter low -10°F Summer high +100°F

From: Tony Avent <tony at plantdel.com> on 1997.10.27 at 15:15:57(1501) Jim: Have you ever see the giant acreage at Mobot that has been taken over with pinellia? I saw this when I visited about 4 years ago. For us, in our sandy soil it is NOT easy to pull out. It is only with a spading fork that we can remove the weedy pinellias without them breaking off. In clay soils, it would probably require miniature nuclear devices. Tony Avent +More Plant Delights Nursery 9241 Sauls Road Raleigh, NC 27603 USA ph 919 772-4794 fx 919 662-0370 email tony@plantdel.com USDA zone 7, 0F-100F "I Consider Every Plant Hardy Until I Have Killed It Myself...Three Times" - Avent

From: nichollsgardens at juno.com (Diana Nicholls) on 1997.10.27 at 20:33:07(1517) The beast does not pull from my clay soil. It just breaks off . Digging it is not easy. Diana Nicholls +More Nicholls Gardens MailOrder Plant Nursery HTTP://www.inet-images.com/nichollsgardens/index.html 4724 Angus Drive, Gainesville, VA 20155-1217 Email: nichollsgardens@juno.com Zone 6B

From: "James W. Waddick" <jim-jim at swbell.net> on 1997.10.27 at 21:01:05(1522) >Jim: > > Have you ever see the giant acreage at Mobot that has been taken >over with pinellia? I saw this when I visited about 4 years ago. For us, >in our sandy soil it is NOT easy to pull out. It is only with a spading >fork that we can remove the weedy pinellias without them breaking off. In >clay soils, it would probably require miniature nuclear devices. >Tony Avent +More Dear Tony- The acreage at MOBOT is P. tripartita!! (not even ternata). It is in a perfect spot, too. I admit that anything agressive can take over and in your sub-tropical Raleigh, I'd be even more careful. As the saying goes, "one man's weed is anothers....." best Jim W. James W. Waddick Voice: 816 746 1949 8871 NW Brostrom Rd E-MAIL: jim-jim@swbell.net Kansas City MO 64152 Fax: 816 746 1939 Zone 5/6 - Winter low -10°F Summer high +100°F

From: Tom Croat <croat at mobot.org> on 1997.10.28 at 05:55:33(1533) Tony: Petra informs me that out Pinellia is currently well behaved. We have only a small patch of P. ternata and it is quite pretty. I have P. pedatisecta at home and it does spread but I am praying that it will take over my whole yard since I can't grow grass adequately there anyway! Tom +More k > > >Jim: > > > > Have you ever see the giant acreage at Mobot that has been taken > >over with pinellia? I saw this when I visited about 4 years ago. For us, > >in our sandy soil it is NOT easy to pull out. It is only with a spading > >fork that we can remove the weedy pinellias without them breaking off. In > >clay soils, it would probably require miniature nuclear devices. > >Tony Avent > > Dear Tony- > The acreage at MOBOT is P. tripartita!! (not even ternata). It is > in a perfect spot, too. I admit that anything agressive can take over and > in your sub-tropical Raleigh, I'd be even more careful. > As the saying goes, "one man's weed is anothers....." > > best Jim W. > > > James W. Waddick Voice: 816 746 1949 > 8871 NW Brostrom Rd E-MAIL: jim-jim@swbell.net > Kansas City MO 64152 Fax: 816 746 1939 > Zone 5/6 - > Winter low -10°F > Summer high +100°F > > > > -- Thomas B. Croat, Ph.D. P.A. Schulz Curator of Botany Missouri Botanical Garden P.O. Box 299 St. Louis, MO 63166-0299 phone: 314-577-5163; fax 314-577-9596; email croat@mobot.org

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