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Smallest Aroids - mini-Acorus
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From: "James W. Waddick" <jim-jim at swbell.net> on 1997.10.24 at 14:16:51(1491)
>Dear Carlo,
>
>Some forms of Spathicarpa hastifolia are very small when adult (less
>than 12cm tall). You can also add Pistia on your list.
>
>Best wishes,
>
>Eduardo.
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Dear Carlo, Eduardo et all,
If Eduardo can include Pistia, you might as well consider Lemna,
Wolfia etc - the smallest of ALL flowering plants. Once included among
Araceae, now mostly separated.
On the other hand, a really small aroid I have lost and would like
to replace is a very small form of Acorus gramineus pusillus - unnamed
small form. This typical acorus-looking plant has foliage under 1 inch in
height and was perfectly hardy here outdoors like its numerous cousins. It
is about 1/3 the height of the typical A. gramineus pusillus. Does anyone
grow this and want to trade?
Best Jim W.
James W. Waddick Voice: 816 746 1949
8871 NW Brostrom Rd E-MAIL: jim-jim@swbell.net
Kansas City MO 64152 Fax: 816 746 1939
Zone 5/6 -
Winter low -10°F
Summer high +100°F
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From: Dan Harrison <danhar at earthlink.net> on 1997.10.24 at 16:16:31(1495)
James W. Waddick wrote:
>
> On the other hand, a really small aroid I have lost and would like
> to replace is a very small form of Acorus gramineus pusillus - unnamed
> small form. This typical acorus-looking plant has foliage under 1 inch in
> height and was perfectly hardy here outdoors like its numerous cousins. It
> is about 1/3 the height of the typical A. gramineus pusillus. Does anyone
> grow this and want to trade?
Hi James,
Run a search for "Bonsai", A. gramineus pusillus is often listed in
Bonsai catalogs.
BTW; are you familiar with A. gramineus pusillus 'Aureus'? It's about
the same size (slightly larger)
and chartreuse to yellow.
Regards,
Dan Harrison
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danhar@earthlink.net
ICQ#1934397
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From: eduardo gomes goncalves <eggon at guarany.cpd.unb.br> on 1997.10.27 at 15:28:31(1504)
On Fri, 24 Oct 1997, James W. Waddick wrote:
> Dear Carlo, Eduardo et all,
> If Eduardo can include Pistia, you might as well consider Lemna,
> Wolfia etc - the smallest of ALL flowering plants. Once included among
> Araceae, now mostly separated.
>
> On the other hand, a really small aroid I have lost and would like
> to replace is a very small form of Acorus gramineus pusillus - unnamed
> small form. This typical acorus-looking plant has foliage under 1 inch in
> height and was perfectly hardy here outdoors like its numerous cousins. It
> is about 1/3 the height of the typical A. gramineus pusillus. Does anyone
> grow this and want to trade?
>
> Best Jim W.
>
Dear Jim,
I am sorry to notice you that Acorus isn't an aroid anymore. Michael
Grayum has removed it some time ago, and it has now its own family
(Acoraceeae).
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Best wishes,
Eduardo.
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From: "Julius Boos" <ju-bo at classic.msn.com> on 1997.10.27 at 20:08:23(1512)
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Sent: Friday, October 24, 1997 11:16 AM
To: ju-bo@msn.com
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Subject: Re: Smallest Aroids - mini-Acorus
James W. Waddick wrote:
>
> On the other hand, a really small aroid I have lost and would like
> to replace is a very small form of Acorus gramineus pusillus - unnamed
> small form. This typical acorus-looking plant has foliage under 1 inch in
> height and was perfectly hardy here outdoors like its numerous cousins. It
> is about 1/3 the height of the typical A. gramineus pusillus. Does anyone
> grow this and want to trade?
>>Hi James,
Run a search for "Bonsai", A. gramineus pusillus is often listed in
Bonsai catalogs.
BTW; are you familiar with A. gramineus pusillus 'Aureus'? It's about
the same size (slightly larger)
and chartreuse to yellow.
Regards,
Dan Harrison
danhar@earthlink.net
ICQ#1934397<<
Hi Guys,
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but I believe that fairly recent research
has shown that Acorus is NOT an Aroid! Any one else has more info on this??
Cheers,
Julius
ju-bo@msn.com
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From: Tony Avent <tony at plantdel.com> on 1997.10.28 at 14:46:18(1538)
Jim:
I guess we can talk about acorus until someone proves that it's not
an aroid any longer. It sounds like the "splitters" have been at work again.
I purchased the dwarf Acorus gramineus 'Pusillus' many times over
the years under a variety of different names, and when left undivided, it
all grew up to be A. g. 'Pusillus'. We have found that nurserymen who are
eager to divide plants too quickly can "dwarf" a plant. This condition
remains until the plant can be left undivided for at least three years.
A. g. 'Minnimus Aureus' is more dwarf than A. g. 'Pusillus' and
stays short. I think the A.g. 'Pusillus Aureus' that you mention is this plant.
Tony Avent
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Plant Delights Nursery
9241 Sauls Road
Raleigh, NC 27603
USA
ph 919 772-4794
fx 919 662-0370
email tony@plantdel.com
USDA zone 7, 0F-100F
"I Consider Every Plant Hardy Until I Have Killed It Myself...Three Times" -
Avent
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From: plantnut at shadow.net (Dewey Fisk) on 1997.10.28 at 17:11:32(1541)
> I purchased the dwarf Acorus gramineus 'Pusillus' many times over
>the years under a variety of different names, and when left undivided, it
>all grew up to be A. g. 'Pusillus'. We have found that nurserymen who are
>eager to divide plants too quickly can "dwarf" a plant. This condition
>remains until the plant can be left undivided for at least three years.
Tony,
The above is true but there is one more consideration... If the plant has
been sprayed with one of the growth inhibitors, it will take about three
years for the spray to disapate. We have had this problem, in Florida,
with people who sell "Dwarf Bougainvillea". To the best of my knowledge,
there is no such dwarf.... Also, Nurseries try to sell "Dwarf Impatiens"
which has reacted to a product "Bonsai". So, it could be chemically
induced.
Dewey
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Dewey E. Fisk, Plant Nut
THE PHILODENDRON PHREAQUE
Your Source for Tropical Araceae
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From: "James W. Waddick" <jim-jim at swbell.net> on 1997.10.29 at 03:49:06(1548)
> A. g. 'Minnimus Aureus' is more dwarf than A. g. 'Pusillus' and
>stays short. I think the A.g. 'Pusillus Aureus' that you mention is this
>plant.
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Dear Tony- et al;
Yes yes yes, but I don't think I am hallucinating.
I got a plant many years ago from a German friend that was smaller
then the A.g. 'Pusillus Aureus' that I still grow. It never grew any larger
than 1 inch in height. It was a typical Acorus g. in all aspects except
incredibly tiny. I grew it in the open garden for years -finding it every
few months, but it was totally undemanding and prospered. I think I even
gave divisions around.
I physically lost it in my garden move, but I do not doubt it's
existence.
I do grow a half dozen or so other various Acorus cvs. variegated
golden leaved various sizes etc. I know the difference.
Obviously this was a rarer item than I assumed at the time.
So it goes. best Jim W.
James W. Waddick Voice: 816 746 1949
8871 NW Brostrom Rd E-MAIL: jim-jim@swbell.net
Kansas City MO 64152 Fax: 816 746 1939
Zone 5/6 -
Winter low -10°F
Summer high +100°F
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From: Tony Avent <tony at plantdel.com> on 1997.10.29 at 15:34:59(1554)
Jim:
If this plant really exists, let me know when you find it...sounds
great!
Tony Avent
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Plant Delights Nursery
9241 Sauls Road
Raleigh, NC 27603
USA
ph 919 772-4794
fx 919 662-0370
email tony@plantdel.com
USDA zone 7, 0F-100F
"I Consider Every Plant Hardy Until I Have Killed It Myself...Three Times" -
Avent
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