Anchomanes difformis var.welwitschii

From: ironious2 at yahoo.com (E.Vincent Morano) on 2008.07.27 at 20:24:44(18267) Does anyone know how to grow this? The seller's website I got it from says it is from from Tropical Africa. Its a nice size bulb but it had moss growing on it. That tells me that it was partially exposed. Some bulbs are supposed to grow this way but I dont know whith this one. The seller has ignored all my emails so they were probably just winging it and dont know either. There is only one person selling this on the internet. Do a search fot Anchomanes difformis var.welwitschii and you'll find them. But dont bother asking them anything, customer service seems nonexsistant. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +More URL: http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/private/aroid-l/attachments/20080727/aaf85b4a/attachment.htm

From: hetter at xs4all.nl (Wilbert Hetterscheid) on 2008.07.28 at 07:36:47(18268) Provided the identification is correct (!!??), it is a species (A. difformis in all its forms and varieties) from the wet forests. So you can put the rhizome in soil, keep it modertately moist and wait untill root growth starts (if there are no roots on your specimen). Then intensify watering a little untill the leaf emerges, then water freely. Cheerio, Wilbert +More > Does anyone know how to grow this? The seller's website I got it from says > it is from from Tropical Africa. Its a nice size bulb but it had moss > growing on it. That tells me that it was partially exposed. Some bulbs are > supposed to grow this way but I dont know whith this one. The seller has > ignored all my emails so they were probably just winging it and dont know > either. There is only one person selling this on the internet. Do a search > fot Anchomanes difformis var.welwitschii and you'll find them. But dont > bother asking them anything, customer service seems nonexsistant. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Aroid-L mailing list > Aroid-L at www.gizmoworks.com > http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l >

From: ironious2 at yahoo.com (E.Vincent Morano) on 2008.07.29 at 01:07:09(18277) Fascinating Wilbert, thank you! It has come to my attention that there are two different kinds. One with a long rhizome and one with a short and squat rhizome. Mine has the short and squat rhizome. Does this sound like hte correct name for the one I have? Here is the picture provided on the sellers website. http://store02.prostores.com/servlet/naturalselectionsexotics/the-61/aroids%2C-amorphophallus%2C-tuber/Detail Thank you, Erin +More --- On Mon, 7/28/08, Wilbert Hetterscheid wrote: From: Wilbert Hetterscheid Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Anchomanes difformis var.welwitschii To: "Discussion of aroids" Date: Monday, July 28, 2008, 12:36 AM Provided the identification is correct (!!??), it is a species (A. difformis in all its forms and varieties) from the wet forests. So you can put the rhizome in soil, keep it modertately moist and wait untill root growth starts (if there are no roots on your specimen). Then intensify watering a little untill the leaf emerges, then water freely. Cheerio, Wilbert > Does anyone know how to grow this? The seller's website I got it from says > it is from from Tropical Africa. Its a nice size bulb but it had moss > growing on it. That tells me that it was partially exposed. Some bulbs are > supposed to grow this way but I dont know whith this one. The seller has > ignored all my emails so they were probably just winging it and dont know > either. There is only one person selling this on the internet. Do a search > fot Anchomanes difformis var.welwitschii and you'll find them. But dont > bother asking them anything, customer service seems nonexsistant. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Aroid-L mailing list > Aroid-L at www.gizmoworks.com > http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l > _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L at www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/private/aroid-l/attachments/20080728/27fcf0d6/attachment.htm

From: hetter at xs4all.nl (Wilbert Hetterscheid) on 2008.07.29 at 14:12:38(18281) Hi Erin, In Anch. difformis thinner longer and thicker shorter rhizomes are found indeed but I do not know if they correlate exactly with morphological variants. In order to assess of you have the real var. welwitschii, pictures of the naughty bits inside the spathe are necessary (should have a very short style). It is a tad questionable of var. welwitschii is really not just the other end of a continuous chain of variation or, the opposite, is a good species in its own right. Not much known about Anchomanes variation in fact! Cheerio, Wilbert +More > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: aroid-l-bounces at gizmoworks.com > [mailto:aroid-l-bounces at gizmoworks.com] Namens E.Vincent Morano > Verzonden: dinsdag 29 juli 2008 3:07 > Aan: Discussion of aroids > Onderwerp: Re: [Aroid-l] Anchomanes difformis var.welwitschii > > Fascinating Wilbert, thank you! It has come to my attention > that there are two different kinds. One with a long rhizome > and one with a short and squat rhizome. Mine has the short > and squat rhizome. Does this sound like hte correct name for > the one I have? > Here is the picture provided on the sellers website. > http://store02.prostores.com/servlet/naturalselectionsexotics/ > the-61/aroids%2C-amorphophallus%2C-tuber/Detail > Thank you, > Erin > > --- On Mon, 7/28/08, Wilbert Hetterscheid wrote: > > > From: Wilbert Hetterscheid > Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Anchomanes difformis var.welwitschii > To: "Discussion of aroids" > Date: Monday, July 28, 2008, 12:36 AM > > > Provided the identification is correct (!!??), it is a > species (A. > difformis in all its forms and varieties) from the wet > forests. So you can > put the rhizome in soil, keep it modertately moist and > wait untill root > growth starts (if there are no roots on your specimen). > Then intensify > watering a little untill the leaf emerges, then water freely. > > Cheerio, > Wilbert > > > > Does anyone know how to grow this? The seller's > website I got it from > says > > it is from from Tropical Africa. Its a nice size bulb > but it had moss > > growing on it. That tells me that it was partially > exposed. Some bulbs are > > supposed to grow this way but I dont know whith this > one. The seller has > > ignored all my emails so they were probably just > winging it and dont know > > either. There is only one > person selling this on the internet. Do a search > > fot Anchomanes difformis var.welwitschii and you'll > find them. But > dont > > bother asking them anything, customer service seems > nonexsistant. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Aroid-L mailing list > > Aroid-L at www.gizmoworks.com > > http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Aroid-L mailing list > Aroid-L at www.gizmoworks.com > http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l > > >

From: ironious2 at yahoo.com (E.Vincent Morano) on 2008.07.30 at 03:25:13(18289) Okay good, that leads me to my next question which is what would be the best way to induce this tropical species to flower? Does it require a dormant period? --- On Tue, 7/29/08, Wilbert Hetterscheid wrote: From: Wilbert Hetterscheid +More Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Anchomanes difformis var.welwitschii To: "'Discussion of aroids'" Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 7:12 AM Hi Erin, In Anch. difformis thinner longer and thicker shorter rhizomes are found indeed but I do not know if they correlate exactly with morphological variants. In order to assess of you have the real var. welwitschii, pictures of the naughty bits inside the spathe are necessary (should have a very short style). It is a tad questionable of var. welwitschii is really not just the other end of a continuous chain of variation or, the opposite, is a good species in its own right. Not much known about Anchomanes variation in fact! Cheerio, Wilbert > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: aroid-l-bounces at gizmoworks.com > [mailto:aroid-l-bounces at gizmoworks.com] Namens E.Vincent Morano > Verzonden: dinsdag 29 juli 2008 3:07 > Aan: Discussion of aroids > Onderwerp: Re: [Aroid-l] Anchomanes difformis var.welwitschii > > Fascinating Wilbert, thank you! It has come to my attention > that there are two different kinds. One with a long rhizome > and one with a short and squat rhizome. Mine has the short > and squat rhizome. Does this sound like hte correct name for > the one I have? > Here is the picture provided on the sellers website. > http://store02.prostores.com/servlet/naturalselectionsexotics/ > the-61/aroids%2C-amorphophallus%2C-tuber/Detail > Thank you, > Erin > > --- On Mon, 7/28/08, Wilbert Hetterscheid wrote: > > > From: Wilbert Hetterscheid > Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Anchomanes difformis var.welwitschii > To: "Discussion of aroids" > Date: Monday, July 28, 2008, 12:36 AM > > > Provided the identification is correct (!!??), it is a > species (A. > difformis in all its forms and varieties) from the wet > forests. So you can > put the rhizome in soil, keep it modertately moist and > wait untill root > growth starts (if there are no roots on your specimen). > Then intensify > watering a little untill the leaf emerges, then water freely. > > Cheerio, > Wilbert > > > > Does anyone know how to grow this? The seller's > website I got it from > says > > it is from from Tropical Africa. Its a nice size bulb > but it had moss > > growing on it. That tells me that it was partially > exposed. Some bulbs are > > supposed to grow this way but I dont know whith this > one. The seller has > > ignored all my emails so they were probably just > winging it and dont know > > either. There is only one > person selling this on the internet. Do a search > > fot Anchomanes difformis var.welwitschii and you'll > find them. But > dont > > bother asking them anything, customer service seems > nonexsistant. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Aroid-L mailing list > > Aroid-L at www.gizmoworks.com > > http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Aroid-L mailing list > Aroid-L at www.gizmoworks.com > http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l > > > _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L at www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/private/aroid-l/attachments/20080729/d923bf5c/attachment-0001.htm

From: ju-bo at msn.com (ju-bo at msn.com) on 2008.07.30 at 09:40:45(18293) ---------------------------------------- > From: hetter at xs4all.nl > To: aroid-l at gizmoworks.com > Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:12:38 +0200 > Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Anchomanes difformis var.welwitschii Dear Wilbert and Erin, This is not my group, but I have noticed over the years that there does seem to be two vars. of forms on this type of plant, one variety with rounder ''squat'' rhizome, and another variety or form (OR species??) with a creeping, longer rhizome. I don`t recall which variety demonstrates this feature, but one has small white spots under or surrounding each spine, one does not, and I believe they each bear blooms with spathes of different colors. The peduncles (stems on which the blooms ''stand'') are (if my memory serves me correctly!!) of different heights. What Wilbert is saying is THE critical information needed, he needs to see a GOOD close-up photograph of the structures on the spadices of each variety/form!! The Best, And Good Growing! Julius +More >> Hi Erin, > > In Anch. difformis thinner longer and thicker shorter rhizomes are found > indeed but I do not know if they correlate exactly with morphological > variants. > > In order to assess of you have the real var. welwitschii, pictures of the > naughty bits inside the spathe are necessary (should have a very short > style). It is a tad questionable of var. welwitschii is really not just the > other end of a continuous chain of variation or, the opposite, is a good > species in its own right. Not much known about Anchomanes variation in fact! > > Cheerio, > Wilbert > > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > > Van: aroid-l-bounces at gizmoworks.com > > [mailto:aroid-l-bounces at gizmoworks.com] Namens E.Vincent Morano > > Verzonden: dinsdag 29 juli 2008 3:07 > > Aan: Discussion of aroids > > Onderwerp: Re: [Aroid-l] Anchomanes difformis var.welwitschii > > > > Fascinating Wilbert, thank you! It has come to my attention > > that there are two different kinds. One with a long rhizome > > and one with a short and squat rhizome. Mine has the short > > and squat rhizome. Does this sound like hte correct name for > > the one I have? > > Here is the picture provided on the sellers website. > > http://store02.prostores.com/servlet/naturalselectionsexotics/ > > the-61/aroids%2C-amorphophallus%2C-tuber/Detail > > Thank you, > > Erin > > > > --- On Mon, 7/28/08, Wilbert Hetterscheid wrote: > > > > > > From: Wilbert Hetterscheid > > Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Anchomanes difformis var.welwitschii > > To: "Discussion of aroids" > > Date: Monday, July 28, 2008, 12:36 AM > > > > > > Provided the identification is correct (!!??), it is a > > species (A. > > difformis in all its forms and varieties) from the wet > > forests. So you can > > put the rhizome in soil, keep it modertately moist and > > wait untill root > > growth starts (if there are no roots on your specimen). > > Then intensify > > watering a little untill the leaf emerges, then water freely. > > > > Cheerio, > > Wilbert > > > > > > > Does anyone know how to grow this? The seller's > > website I got it from > > says > > > it is from from Tropical Africa. Its a nice size bulb > > but it had moss > > > growing on it. That tells me that it was partially > > exposed. Some bulbs are > > > supposed to grow this way but I dont know whith this > > one. The seller has > > > ignored all my emails so they were probably just > > winging it and dont know > > > either. There is only one > > person selling this on the internet. Do a search > > > fot Anchomanes difformis var.welwitschii and you'll > > find them. But > > dont > > > bother asking them anything, customer service seems > > nonexsistant. > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Aroid-L mailing list > > > Aroid-L at www.gizmoworks.com > > > http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Aroid-L mailing list > > Aroid-L at www.gizmoworks.com > > http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Aroid-L mailing list > Aroid-L at www.gizmoworks.com > http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: crogers at ecoanalysts.com (Christopher Rogers) on 2008.07.31 at 15:55:02(18305) Hiyer! The main plant in the University of California, Davis collection has had a depressed globose tuber for more than a decade, then last year it started a growing the leaf from the side of the tuber. At this point it started making a new, elongated tuber, and shrinking the old tuber. For what it is worth. Christopher +More D. Christopher Rogers Senior Invertebrate Ecologist/ Taxonomist ((,///////////=======< EcoAnalysts, Inc. 1.530.756.4481 1.530. 383.4798 (cell) 1307 "L" Street Davis, CA 95616 USA ?Invertebrate Taxonomy ?Endangered Species ?Ecological Studies ?Bioassessment ?Invasive Species ?Plankton ?Phycology Moscow, Idaho ? Bozeman, Montana ? Davis, California ? Joplin, Missouri Selinsgrove, Pennsylvania ecoanalysts.com -----Original Message----- From: aroid-l-bounces at gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces at gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of ju-bo at msn.com Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 2:41 AM To: Discussion of aroids Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Anchomanes difformis var.welwitschii ---------------------------------------- > From: hetter at xs4all.nl > To: aroid-l at gizmoworks.com > Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:12:38 +0200 > Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Anchomanes difformis var.welwitschii Dear Wilbert and Erin, This is not my group, but I have noticed over the years that there does seem to be two vars. of forms on this type of plant, one variety with rounder ''squat'' rhizome, and another variety or form (OR species??) with a creeping, longer rhizome. I don`t recall which variety demonstrates this feature, but one has small white spots under or surrounding each spine, one does not, and I believe they each bear blooms with spathes of different colors. The peduncles (stems on which the blooms ''stand'') are (if my memory serves me correctly!!) of different heights. What Wilbert is saying is THE critical information needed, he needs to see a GOOD close-up photograph of the structures on the spadices of each variety/form!! The Best, And Good Growing! Julius >> Hi Erin, > > In Anch. difformis thinner longer and thicker shorter rhizomes are found > indeed but I do not know if they correlate exactly with morphological > variants. > > In order to assess of you have the real var. welwitschii, pictures of the > naughty bits inside the spathe are necessary (should have a very short > style). It is a tad questionable of var. welwitschii is really not just the > other end of a continuous chain of variation or, the opposite, is a good > species in its own right. Not much known about Anchomanes variation in fact! > > Cheerio, > Wilbert > > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > > Van: aroid-l-bounces at gizmoworks.com > > [mailto:aroid-l-bounces at gizmoworks.com] Namens E.Vincent Morano > > Verzonden: dinsdag 29 juli 2008 3:07 > > Aan: Discussion of aroids > > Onderwerp: Re: [Aroid-l] Anchomanes difformis var.welwitschii > > > > Fascinating Wilbert, thank you! It has come to my attention > > that there are two different kinds. One with a long rhizome > > and one with a short and squat rhizome. Mine has the short > > and squat rhizome. Does this sound like hte correct name for > > the one I have? > > Here is the picture provided on the sellers website. > > http://store02.prostores.com/servlet/naturalselectionsexotics/ > > the-61/aroids%2C-amorphophallus%2C-tuber/Detail > > Thank you, > > Erin > > > > --- On Mon, 7/28/08, Wilbert Hetterscheid wrote: > > > > > > From: Wilbert Hetterscheid > > Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Anchomanes difformis var.welwitschii > > To: "Discussion of aroids" > > Date: Monday, July 28, 2008, 12:36 AM > > > > > > Provided the identification is correct (!!??), it is a > > species (A. > > difformis in all its forms and varieties) from the wet > > forests. So you can > > put the rhizome in soil, keep it modertately moist and > > wait untill root > > growth starts (if there are no roots on your specimen). > > Then intensify > > watering a little untill the leaf emerges, then water freely. > > > > Cheerio, > > Wilbert > > > > > > > Does anyone know how to grow this? The seller's > > website I got it from > > says > > > it is from from Tropical Africa. Its a nice size bulb > > but it had moss > > > growing on it. That tells me that it was partially > > exposed. Some bulbs are > > > supposed to grow this way but I dont know whith this > > one. The seller has > > > ignored all my emails so they were probably just > > winging it and dont know > > > either. There is only one > > person selling this on the internet. Do a search > > > fot Anchomanes difformis var.welwitschii and you'll > > find them. But > > dont > > > bother asking them anything, customer service seems > > nonexsistant. > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Aroid-L mailing list > > > Aroid-L at www.gizmoworks.com > > > http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Aroid-L mailing list > > Aroid-L at www.gizmoworks.com > > http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Aroid-L mailing list > Aroid-L at www.gizmoworks.com > http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L at www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/private/aroid-l/attachments/20080731/d942ac20/attachment-0001.htm

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