A. pedatoradium from Chiapas

From: "Windy Aubrey" <exotics at hawaii.rr.com> on 2009.01.31 at 23:29:17(19015)  Steve, This is the species A. pedatoradium from Chiapas. Although it does look similar, it's definitely different. Windy HTML +More Your message is ready to be sent with the following file or link attachments: 003.jpg Note: To protect against computer viruses, e-mail programs may prevent sending or receiving certain types of file attachments. Check your e-mail security settings to determine how attachments are handled.------=_NextPart_001_015D_01C983A7.EA7987A0--------=_NextPart_000_015C_01C983A7.EA796090

From: ExoticRainforest <Steve at ExoticRainforest.com> on 2009.02.01 at 15:57:29(19018) Another interesting Anthurium! Ohwhere will I ever get enough room to grow all these? Thanks! Steve Windy Aubrey wrote: HTML +More ï » ¿ Steve, This is the species A. pedatoradiumfrom Chiapas. Although it does look similar,it's definitely different. Windy Your message is ready to be sent with the following file or linkattachments: 003.jpg Note: To protect against computer viruses, e-mail programs may preventsending or receiving certain types of file attachments. Check youre-mail security settings to determine how attachments are handled. _______________________________________________Aroid-L mailing listAroid-L@www.gizmoworks.comhttp://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l --------------090208070504030104050602

From: "Abrimaal" <abrimaal at wp.pl> on 2009.02.01 at 19:04:36(19021)  Here is an adult specimen of A. pedatoradiatum: http://www.wschowa.com/abrimaal/araceum/anthurium/pedrad.htm Windy, if you don't disagree, I'll add your photo to that page. Marek HTML +More ----- Original Message ----- From: Windy Aubrey To: Discussion of aroids Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 12:29 AM Subject: [Aroid-l] A. pedatoradium from Chiapas Steve, This is the species A. pedatoradium from Chiapas. Although it does look similar, it's definitely different. Windy Your message is ready to be sent with the following file or link attachments: 003.jpg Note: To protect against computer viruses, e-mail programs may prevent sending or receiving certain types of file attachments. Check your e-mail security settings to determine how attachments are handled. _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l ------=_NextPart_000_00AB_01C984A8.4EC22BD0----==============‘00286260139145720=

From: "Windy Aubrey" <exotics at hawaii.rr.com> on 2009.02.01 at 21:37:56(19025)  Hi Marek, You are more than welcome to use my photo. Windy HTML +More ----- Original Message ----- From: Abrimaal To: Discussion of aroids Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 9:04 AM Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] A. pedatoradium from Chiapas Here is an adult specimen of A. pedatoradiatum: http://www.wschowa.com/abrimaal/araceum/anthurium/pedrad.htm Windy, if you don't disagree, I'll add your photo to that page. Marek ----- Original Message ----- From: Windy Aubrey To: Discussion of aroids Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 12:29 AM Subject: [Aroid-l] A. pedatoradium from Chiapas Steve, This is the species A. pedatoradium from Chiapas. Although it does look similar, it's definitely different. Windy Your message is ready to be sent with the following file or link attachments: 003.jpg Note: To protect against computer viruses, e-mail programs may prevent sending or receiving certain types of file attachments. Check your e-mail security settings to determine how attachments are handled. _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l ------=_NextPart_000_0235_01C98461.86B4CDA0----==============R74363563312240201=

From: "derek burch" <dburch23 at bellsouth.net> on 2009.02.02 at 01:18:42(19026) Marek, Re your page of A. pedatoradiatum – when I collectedmine in Veracruz it was perched on top of a largerock with roots extending over the surface, and in full sun. I have alwaysgrown the offspring in full sun, too (in South Florida). So Iwould question the need for shade that is given Derek HTML +More -----Original Message----- From:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Abrimaal Sent: Sunday, February 01, 20092:05 PM To: Discussion of aroids Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] A.pedatoradium from Chiapas Here is an adult specimen of A.pedatoradiatum: http://www.wschowa.com/abrimaal/araceum/anthurium/pedrad.htm Windy, if you don't disagree, I'lladd your photo to that page. Marek ----- Original Message ----- From: Windy Aubrey To: Discussionof aroids Sent: Sunday,February 01, 2009 12:29 AM Subject: [Aroid-l]A. pedatoradium from Chiapas Steve, This is the species A. pedatoradiumfrom Chiapas. Although it does look similar,it's definitely different. Windy Your message is ready to be sent with the followingfile or link attachments: 003.jpg Note: To protect against computer viruses, e-mail programs may prevent sendingor receiving certain types of file attachments. Check your e-mailsecurity settings to determine how attachments are handled. _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C984AA.47609AF0----==============219521230616268058=

From: "Windy Aubrey" <exotics at hawaii.rr.com> on 2009.02.02 at 07:14:18(19027) Steve, Although at times it seems that room to grow 'everything' seems impossible, never give up! Even though I am lucky to live in an environment conducive to grow just about anything 'tropical' without a greenhouse, I continue to grow my plants on benches and contained in a hard roof greenhouse. I do hang a lot of plants, but the majority of everything I grow is up on benches. To fill my space as full as possible I have even employed tiered benches, and that allows for even more. Remember....If there is a will, there is a way! ;>) Windy HTML +More ----- Original Message ----- From: ExoticRainforest To: Discussion of aroids Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 5:57 AM Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] A. pedatoradium from Chiapas Another interesting Anthurium! Oh where will I ever get enough room to grow all these? Thanks! Steve Windy Aubrey wrote:  Steve, This is the species A. pedatoradium from Chiapas. Although it does look similar, it's definitely different. Windy Your message is ready to be sent with the following file or link attachments: 003.jpg Note: To protect against computer viruses, e-mail programs may prevent sending or receiving certain types of file attachments. Check your e-mail security settings to determine how attachments are handled. _______________________________________________Aroid-L mailing listAroid-L@www.gizmoworks.comhttp://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l ------=_NextPart_001_0353_01C984B2.0B553B30--------=_NextPart_000_0352_01C984B2.0B553B30

From: "Marek Argent" <abri1973 at wp.pl> on 2009.02.02 at 23:41:08(19029) Hello Derek, Photos of this plant were previously posted in the ID Center. When it was identified, I knew nothing about this species, so I copied the description which I got together with these photos. I've just added a photo taken by Windy: http://www.wschowa.com/abrimaal/araceum/anthurium/pedrad.htm#2 and I see a difference - the first specimen growing in shade has broader leaf lobes. Marek HTML +More ----- Original Message ----- From: derek burch To: 'Discussion of aroids' Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 2:18 AM Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] A. pedatoradium from Chiapas Marek, Re your page of A. pedatoradiatum – when I collected mine in Veracruz it was perched on top of a large rock with roots extending over the surface, and in full sun. I have always grown the offspring in full sun, too (in South Florida). So I would question the need for shade that is given Derek -----Original Message----- From: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Abrimaal Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 2:05 PM To: Discussion of aroids Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] A. pedatoradium from Chiapas Here is an adult specimen of A. pedatoradiatum: http://www.wschowa.com/abrimaal/araceum/anthurium/pedrad.htm Windy, if you don't disagree, I'll add your photo to that page. Marek ----- Original Message ----- From: Windy Aubrey To: Discussion of aroids Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 12:29 AM Subject: [Aroid-l] A. pedatoradium from Chiapas Steve, This is the species A. pedatoradium from Chiapas. Although it does look similar, it's definitely different. Windy Your message is ready to be sent with the following file or link attachments: 003.jpg Note: To protect against computer viruses, e-mail programs may prevent sending or receiving certain types of file attachments. Check your e-mail security settings to determine how attachments are handled. _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l ------=_NextPart_000_0145_01C98598.1A615780----==============60031177106446440=

From: ExoticRainforest <Steve at exoticrainforest.com> on 2009.02.03 at 03:52:05(19031) Windy, do I know that and I surewish I had your weather! We are now considering selling our 120 year old colonial home with theatrium attached and move all the rare and wild collected specimens plusstarts of most everything from NW Arkansas to Little Rock. As some ofyou know my eventual goal is to donate the entire collection to theLittle Rock Zoo to be displayed in a new rain forest exhibit they arehoping to build. Almost all the plants in the ground will stay as wellas the hanging log since I'm afraid I would destroy it by trying totake it down. My goal is to build a building twice this size so I can add even more"logs" as well as many rare and large aroid species. Due to Dr.Croat's work my concentration is now on Ecuadorian species and I need alot more room for plants to climb as well as places to hang all theplants from the ceiling as they grow. As you can see we use a lot of12 inch square orchid baskets to grow our large Anthurium species sothey at least appear to be in their natural epiphytic form. We alreadyhave specimens hanging over the walkways with 6 foot spans, especiallyon the opposite side of the pond and waterfall which isn't shown! I'm hoping showing these photos does not violate my trust with Dereksince they were taken for an Aroideana article in the next issue. Asyou can see we've used up just about all the room. You'll at leastget to see a bit of color here on one photo including our largeepiphytic log which is now beginning to produce blooming orchids aswell as many bromeliad species with an inflorescence! The center posthas large species growing as high as 18 feet already! And by the way,if you want to buy a "rain forest" this one may soon be for sale, atleast a lot of it! If you want to see more my article telling of all the mistakes we madewhile building our "rain forest" plus a lot more good reading will bein the next issue. If you're not already a member you need to go tothe International Aroid Society right now and join on the IAS website. That way you'll receive the next issue of Aroideana plus a lot more! http://www.aroid.org/ Steve Lucas HTML +More www.ExoticRainforest.com PS: All of you are welcome to visit anytime! We host lots of guests. Windy Aubrey wrote: Steve, Although at times it seems that roomto grow 'everything' seems impossible, never give up! Even though I am lucky to live in anenvironment conducive to grow just about anything 'tropical' without agreenhouse, I continue to grow my plants on benches and contained in ahard roof greenhouse. I do hang a lot of plants, but themajority of everything I grow is up on benches. To fill my space as full as possibleI have even employed tiered benches, and that allows for even more. Remember....If there is a will,there is a way! ;>) Windy oid-l --------------000605040906080505020808

From: "Christopher Rogers" <crogers at ecoanalysts.com> on 2009.02.03 at 16:46:17(19034) Greetings, Derek et al.! The parent of my specimens were collected growing epiphytically in shade. When I have mine in full sun it burns quickly. In partial sun it makes small leaves and no blooms. In bright indirect light it blooms and makes the large, palmate leaves that you see in the picture on Marek’s website. Different ecotypes??? Grins, Christopher HTML +More D. Christopher Rogers Senior Invertebrate Ecologist/ Taxonomist ((,///////////=======< EcoAnalysts, Inc. 1.530.756.4481 1.530. 383.4798 (cell) 1307 "L" Street Davis, CA 95616 USA ŸInvertebrate Taxonomy ŸEndangered Species ŸEcological Studies ŸBioassessment ŸInvasive Species ŸPlankton ŸPhycology Moscow, Idaho Ÿ Bozeman, Montana Ÿ Davis, California Ÿ Joplin, Missouri Selinsgrove, Pennsylvania Ÿ London, Ontario ecoanalysts.com From: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of derek burch Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 5:19 PM To: 'Discussion of aroids' Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] A. pedatoradium from Chiapas Marek, Re your page of A. pedatoradiatum – when I collected mine in Veracruz it was perched on top of a large rock with roots extending over the surface, and in full sun. I have always grown the offspring in full sun, too (in South Florida). So I would question the need for shade that is given Derek -----Original Message----- From: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Abrimaal Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 2:05 PM To: Discussion of aroids Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] A. pedatoradium from Chiapas Here is an adult specimen of A. pedatoradiatum: http://www.wschowa.com/abrimaal/araceum/anthurium/pedrad.htm Windy, if you don't disagree, I'll add your photo to that page. Marek ----- Original Message ----- From: Windy Aubrey To: Discussion of aroids Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 12:29 AM Subject: [Aroid-l] A. pedatoradium from Chiapas Steve, This is the species A. pedatoradium from Chiapas. Although it does look similar, it's definitely different. Windy Your message is ready to be sent with the following file or link attachments: 003.jpg Note: To protect against computer viruses, e-mail programs may prevent sending or receiving certain types of file attachments. Check your e-mail security settings to determine how attachments are handled. _____ _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.16/1929 - Release Date: 2/1/2009 6:02 PM ------=_NextPart_000_0073_01C985DB.E159F1B0 _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l --==============%25490768292089274==--

From: "Windy Aubrey" <exotics at hawaii.rr.com> on 2009.02.04 at 00:24:57(19042) Hi Marek, I received several stem (trunk) cutting of the Anthurium pedatoradium from Chiapas, Mexico about 4 or 5 months ago. These cutting, as they leaf out, have some differences in their leaf shape even though they all have been growing under the same conditions and lighting. About a year ago I received some A. polydactylum from Vera Cruz, Mexico, and they also showed a lot of variety in their leaf shapes as they grew out. My guess is both of these species must be somewhat variable in their appearance. Windy HTML +More ----- Original Message ----- From: Marek Argent To: Discussion of aroids Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 1:41 PM Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] A. pedatoradium from Chiapas Hello Derek, Photos of this plant were previously posted in the ID Center. When it was identified, I knew nothing about this species, so I copied the description which I got together with these photos. I've just added a photo taken by Windy: http://www.wschowa.com/abrimaal/araceum/anthurium/pedrad.htm#2 and I see a difference - the first specimen growing in shade has broader leaf lobes. Marek ----- Original Message ----- From: derek burch To: 'Discussion of aroids' Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 2:18 AM Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] A. pedatoradium from Chiapas Marek, Re your page of A. pedatoradiatum – when I collected mine in Veracruz it was perched on top of a large rock with roots extending over the surface, and in full sun. I have always grown the offspring in full sun, too (in South Florida). So I would question the need for shade that is given Derek -----Original Message----- From: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Abrimaal Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 2:05 PM To: Discussion of aroids Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] A. pedatoradium from Chiapas Here is an adult specimen of A. pedatoradiatum: http://www.wschowa.com/abrimaal/araceum/anthurium/pedrad.htm Windy, if you don't disagree, I'll add your photo to that page. Marek ----- Original Message ----- From: Windy Aubrey To: Discussion of aroids Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 12:29 AM Subject: [Aroid-l] A. pedatoradium from Chiapas Steve, This is the species A. pedatoradium from Chiapas. Although it does look similar, it's definitely different. Windy Your message is ready to be sent with the following file or link attachments: 003.jpg Note: To protect against computer viruses, e-mail programs may prevent sending or receiving certain types of file attachments. Check your e-mail security settings to determine how attachments are handled. _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l ------=_NextPart_000_00F0_01C9860B.308B5650----==============x81915733460013343=

From: "Marek Argent" <abri1973 at wp.pl> on 2009.02.04 at 21:23:16(19051) Hi Windy, Well, it may be similarly to A. scandens or Philodendron hederaceum natural varieties. I also noticed the difference in the leaf shape. Do you have a photo of your plant's inflorescence? Marek HTML +More ----- Original Message ----- From: Windy Aubrey To: Discussion of aroids Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 1:24 AM Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] A. pedatoradium from Chiapas Hi Marek, I received several stem (trunk) cutting of the Anthurium pedatoradium from Chiapas, Mexico about 4 or 5 months ago. These cutting, as they leaf out, have some differences in their leaf shape even though they all have been growing under the same conditions and lighting. About a year ago I received some A. polydactylum from Vera Cruz, Mexico, and they also showed a lot of variety in their leaf shapes as they grew out. My guess is both of these species must be somewhat variable in their appearance. Windy ----- Original Message ----- From: Marek Argent To: Discussion of aroids Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 1:41 PM Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] A. pedatoradium from Chiapas Hello Derek, Photos of this plant were previously posted in the ID Center. When it was identified, I knew nothing about this species, so I copied the description which I got together with these photos. I've just added a photo taken by Windy: http://www.wschowa.com/abrimaal/araceum/anthurium/pedrad.htm#2 and I see a difference - the first specimen growing in shade has broader leaf lobes. Marek ----- Original Message ----- From: derek burch To: 'Discussion of aroids' Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 2:18 AM Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] A. pedatoradium from Chiapas Marek, Re your page of A. pedatoradiatum – when I collected mine in Veracruz it was perched on top of a large rock with roots extending over the surface, and in full sun. I have always grown the offspring in full sun, too (in South Florida). So I would question the need for shade that is given Derek -----Original Message----- From: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Abrimaal Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 2:05 PM To: Discussion of aroids Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] A. pedatoradium from Chiapas Here is an adult specimen of A. pedatoradiatum: http://www.wschowa.com/abrimaal/araceum/anthurium/pedrad.htm Windy, if you don't disagree, I'll add your photo to that page. Marek ----- Original Message ----- From: Windy Aubrey To: Discussion of aroids Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 12:29 AM Subject: [Aroid-l] A. pedatoradium from Chiapas Steve, This is the species A. pedatoradium from Chiapas. Although it does look similar, it's definitely different. Windy Your message is ready to be sent with the following file or link attachments: 003.jpg Note: To protect against computer viruses, e-mail programs may prevent sending or receiving certain types of file attachments. Check your e-mail security settings to determine how attachments are handled. _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l ------=_NextPart_000_0108_01C98717.2D06AEA0----==============336363003687374972=

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