Helicodiceros

From: "David Constantine" <drc at globalnet.co.uk> on 1997.10.29 at 15:46:05(1555) Rob, Something weird happened to the 'pound sign' in my last post when it appeared on the list. The 'pound sign' was translated into 'A3'. The Helicodiceros from Avon Bulbs are UK pounds 4.50 not Australian (or US) dollars 34.50. Similarly the phyto cost is about UK pounds 40 not dollars 340. David Constantine +More drc@globalnet.co.uk 2 High Street Ashcott Bridgwater Somerset TA7 9PL UK tel: + 44 1458 210607 fax: + 44 1458 210650

From: "Lucy & Jim Sampson" <wiz at texas.net> on 1999.06.12 at 01:45:08(3428) Doug wrote < Now...Helicodiceros...here's a plant whose bloom could literally 'wake the dead'. > I would like to know if Helicodiceros is a very common plant here in the USA? It comes from Sardinia and Corsica, so I am just curious about this, especially since I am getting some! Anything we can do to lessen the stench? I don't have a back lot to stick it on away from our home! This is where I found info. about it but no pictures. http://daphne.palomar.edu/wayne/ww0602.htm#arums Thank you for any info. you might be able to give me about this plant. Lucy Sampson +More San Antonio, TX wiz@texas.net

From: "Julius Boos" <ju-bo at email.msn.com> on 1999.06.15 at 03:00:15(3439) >>Doug wrote < Now...Helicodiceros...here's a plant whose bloom could literally 'wake the dead'. < Dear Lucy, It is not called the dead horse arum for nothing!! Deni Bown, in her WONDERFUL book on Aroids, speculates that the hairy spadix resembles an animals tail, and the entry to the pinkish, hairy (!) spathe, it`s anus! The stench is said to be PRETTY bad!!! One could remove the entire inflorsence before it opened, but where is your sense of adventure, of fun, if you were to perform this sacrilege??? When it flowers, WELCOME the beautiful buzzards and carrion crows, the ravens circling overhead, the wolves, the foxes and other wild dogs baying at your door, the white-hooded neighbors with torches, guns, pitch forks, clubs and ropes with nooses! THIS is life of an Aroid lover, pure and simple, real and raw!! I have seen this truly beautiful Aroid in collections from time to time, but it is said not to do well in sunny Florida, maybe it needs a cool rest period, but as we Trinidadians say, "go brave"!!! For all Aroid folk, a reminder that there are WONDERFUL color photographs AND line drawings of this and in fact ALL the known genera of Aroids, together with all the information one could ask about Aroids, in the large Volume "The Genera of Araceae" by S.J. Mayo, J. Bogner and Peter Boyce, three of the World`s foremost Aroid researchers, and I believe this book is still available from our intrepid President, Mr. Dewey Fisk, at-- plantnut@macconnect.com It is a great value, not cheap, but WELL worth the price!!! Sincerely, Julius +More >I would like to know if Helicodiceros is a very common plant here in the USA? It comes from Sardinia and Corsica, so I am just curious about this, especially since I am getting some! Anything we can do to lessen the stench? I don't have a back lot to stick it on away from our home! Thank you for any info. you might be able to give me about this plant. Lucy Sampson San Antonio, TX wiz@texas.net<<<

From: "Lucy & Jim Sampson" <wiz at texas.net> on 1999.06.16 at 22:58:36(3449) Julius, Thanks again for letting me know so much information here about this plant and your funny things that you like to say about these aroids and aroid lovers, you must be funny to be around too! Your posting was very good! I appreciate the information and thoughtfulness,. Lucy

From: "Mr R.a McClure" <Rob.McClure at sci.monash.edu.au> on 1999.06.17 at 13:50:20(3450) > Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 20:46:25 -0500 (CDT) > From: Lucy & Jim Sampson > Subject: Re: Helicodiceros > I would like to know if Helicodiceros is a very common plant here in the > USA? It comes from Sardinia and Corsica, so I am just curious about this, > especially since I am getting some! > Anything we can do to lessen the stench? I don't have a back lot to stick > it on away from our home! > This is where I found info. about it but no pictures. > http://daphne.palomar.edu/wayne/ww0602.htm#arums > > Thank you for any info. you might be able to give me about this plant. Hi Lucy, I grow Helicodiceros here 'downunder' in temperate zone 9 climate. It is a huge clump in a bed flanked by Dracunculus vulgaris and Dracunculus canariensis. In early spring it is a sight and smell to behold. 'Gothic' shock / horror gardening at its best. Go to my mate Greg Ruckert's web site at : http://www.ezi-learn.com.au/areae/default.html and under the'photo album' section there is a photo of my plant flowering at the end of the page. Note the flies (they are big flies !) and this will give you an idea of the size of the inflorescence. Helicodiceros needs a hot dry summer rest and is spurred into growth by our cool and wet autumn / winter. That is probably why they don't flourish in Florida Julius. cheers, Rob. +More Rob.McClure Biological Sciences Monash University, Clayton 3168 Victoria AUSTRALIA. Phone:(03)9905.5625 Fax:(03)9905.5613 e-mail: Rob.McClure@sci.monash.edu.au

From: Rand Nicholson <writserv at nbnet.nb.ca> on 1999.06.17 at 15:29:53(3451) Hi Rob: >I grow Helicodiceros here 'downunder' in temperate zone 9 climate. >It is a huge clump in a bed flanked by Dracunculus vulgaris and >Dracunculus canariensis. In early spring it is a sight and smell to >behold. 'Gothic' shock / horror gardening at its best. > >Go to my mate Greg Ruckert's web site at : >http://www.ezi-learn.com.au/areae/default.html >and under the'photo album' section there is a photo of my plant >flowering at the end of the page. >Note the flies (they are big flies !) and this will give you an idea >of the size of the inflorescence. I get a "404" or a "Directory Denied" message when I try the above URL. Thanks again for the Helis and Dracs. Although they are just now adjusting to the northern hemisphere, they seem to have got the hang of it. Kind Regards, Rand +More Rand Nicholson Maritime New Brunswick, Canada, Zone 5b (starting heat wave)

From: "Greg Ruckert" <greg at ezi-learn.com.au> on 1999.06.18 at 13:02:46(3453) Give it another go Rand, Worked fine for me when I checked. Greg Ruckert +More Australian Areae Collection http://www.ezi-learn.com.au/areae/default.html >>Go to my mate Greg Ruckert's web site at : >>http://www.ezi-learn.com.au/areae/default.html > >I get a "404" or a "Directory Denied" message when I try the above URL. >Kind Regards, > >Rand > >Rand Nicholson

From: "Julius Boos" <ju-bo at email.msn.com> on 1999.06.18 at 13:08:01(3454) >I grow Helicodiceros here 'downunder' in temperate zone 9 climate. It is a huge clump in a bed flanked by Dracunculus vulgaris and Dracunculus canariensis. In early spring it is a sight and smell to behold. 'Gothic' shock / horror gardening at its best. Go to my mate Greg Ruckert's web site at : http://www.ezi-learn.com.au/areae/default.html +More and under the'photo album' section there is a photo of my plant flowering at the end of the page. Note the flies (they are big flies !) and this will give you an idea of the size of the inflorescence. Helicodiceros needs a hot dry summer rest and is spurred into growth by our cool and wet autumn / winter. That is probably why they don't flourish in Florida Julius. cheers, Rob. Rob.McClure Biological Sciences Monash University, Clayton 3168 Victoria AUSTRALIA. Phone:(03)9905.5625 Fax:(03)9905.5613 e-mail: Rob.McClure@sci.monash.edu.au<< Dear Rob, Thanks for the url, it worked fine for me, enjoyed all the great pictures!! Will try Helicocideros again here in Florida, as I believe it will do OK if kept dry in the hot summers, as out 'winters' can be quite cool. Cheers and thanks again, Julius

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