Typhomatum/Sauronium venosum

From: Steve Marak <samarak at gizmoworks.com> on 2009.07.18 at 05:15:41(19570) On Fri, 17 Jul 2009, Wilbert Hetterscheid wrote: > Sauromatum venosum. Sauromatum will be reinstated in a paper by Natalie > Cusimano and myself, based on latest molecular evidence. It will include > several species formerly in Typhonium. You're just doing this to toy with us, right? And in a couple more years, you'll bring out *new* molecular evidence (which you probably already have hidden away!) to resink the newly resurrected Sauromtum back into Typhonium? Steve +More -- Steve Marak -- samarak@gizmoworks.com _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "Wilbert Hetterscheid" <hetter at xs4all.nl> on 2009.07.18 at 06:14:36(19571) But of course!!! By that time we can do taxonomy at the atomic level, which brings new evidence........... > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- +More > Van: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com > [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] Namens Steve Marak > Verzonden: zaterdag 18 juli 2009 7:16 > Aan: Discussion of aroids > Onderwerp: Re: [Aroid-l] Typhomatum/Sauronium venosum > > On Fri, 17 Jul 2009, Wilbert Hetterscheid wrote: > > > Sauromatum venosum. Sauromatum will be reinstated in a paper by > > Natalie Cusimano and myself, based on latest molecular evidence. It > > will include several species formerly in Typhonium. > > You're just doing this to toy with us, right? And in a couple > more years, you'll bring out *new* molecular evidence (which > you probably already have hidden away!) to resink the newly > resurrected Sauromtum back into Typhonium? > > Steve > > -- Steve Marak > -- samarak@gizmoworks.com > _______________________________________________ > Aroid-L mailing list > Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com > http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: STARSELL at aol.com on 2009.07.18 at 13:51:53(19573) In a message dated 7/18/2009 12:18:25 A.M. Central Daylight Time, samarak@gizmoworks.com writes: On Fri, 17 Jul 2009, Wilbert Hetterscheid wrote: >> Sauromatum venosum. Sauromatum will be reinstated in a paper by Natalie >> Cusimano and myself, based on latest molecular evidence. It will include >> several species formerly in Typhonium. > You're just doing this to toy with us, right? And in a couple more years, > you'll bring out *new* molecular evidence (which you probably already have > hidden away!) to resink the newly resurrected Sauromtum back into > Typhonium? > Steve Well I, for one am just glad I left mine with the Sauromatum label it came with! HTML +More Alison A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! -------------------------------1247925113----==============p27296476531669122=

From: Susan B <honeybunny442 at yahoo.com> on 2009.07.18 at 20:42:34(19574) Funny! One of my first Aroids. Brings back memories.... HTML +More In 1998 or 1999 there was an Aroid Conference in St. Louis at MOBOT, a great, fantastic affair- my first introduction to any other Aroiders. Imagine a newbie such as I was at the time showing up, not knowing anything! Dewey Fisk and Julius Boos took me under their wings, as it were, introduced me to folks, and made sure I didn't hide in the corner too much (I was very, very shy). It was my first introduction to Dr. Croat, Dr. Mansell, Dr. Gunghua Zhu (what a sweet man), Tony Avent ("look at this plant, who would like that? There's something really, really wrong with us!"), Scott Hyndman, Dr. Nicholson, poor Dr. Buzgo and his banished from the Aroids Acorus, Tito Wu, and many others. Was Deni Bown there? I faintly remember gushing at her, and her looking frantically for escape... hee hee, I blame the organizers- that cocktail hour at the end of the day was a killer! Anyhow, the highlight towards the end of the conference was the plant sale- naturally I snapped up all I could, not even knowing what some plants were. Some of the plants I bought were Sauromatum guttatum, our old favorite weed. Flash forward a few years to the Aroid Show and Sale in Miami, I brought extras of my Sauromatum guttatum, which had recently be changed to S. venosum (if memory serves me right). Dr. Croat was very interested in my bulbs, eagerly poking through the pile of them. He just could not be persuaded that my bulbs originally came from HIM! and took home several in his pocket, muttering something about "maybe they're a different variety". Yes, back then I might have been the only Aroider from Wisconsin, or as Craig Allen called it, "Alaska". Ah, getting old and reminisencing- good times, good times.. Albert, I envy you attending the Conference in Nancy. Thank you for sharing your photos, I really enjoyed them, especially seeing how happy all the attendees looked (except for that cow)- it was easy to see everyone was having a good time. Susan --0-964839507-1247949754=:78264----==============x59795423311366197=

From: "Marek Argent" <abri1973 at wp.pl> on 2009.07.19 at 01:47:27(19575) I like changes, but not too often, in 2000 the genus Sauromatum disappeared and 9 years lates it's going to come back triumphally. The inflorescence structure and leaf shape of T. venosum is identical with some other Typhonium species. Better to leave Sauromatum as a section of Typhonium and not to dive too deep cos you can drown. Marek +More ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Marak" To: "Discussion of aroids" Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 7:15 AM Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Typhomatum/Sauronium venosum > On Fri, 17 Jul 2009, Wilbert Hetterscheid wrote: > >> Sauromatum venosum. Sauromatum will be reinstated in a paper by Natalie >> Cusimano and myself, based on latest molecular evidence. It will include >> several species formerly in Typhonium. > > You're just doing this to toy with us, right? And in a couple more years, > you'll bring out *new* molecular evidence (which you probably already have > hidden away!) to resink the newly resurrected Sauromtum back into > Typhonium? > > Steve > > -- Steve Marak > -- samarak@gizmoworks.com > _______________________________________________ > Aroid-L mailing list > Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com > http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nie znaleziono wirusa w tej wiadomosci przychodzacej. Sprawdzone przez AVG - www.avg.com Wersja: 8.5.375 / Baza danych wirusow: 270.13.18/2243 - Data wydania: 07/17/09 06:08:00 _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "Christopher Rogers" <CRogers at ecoanalysts.com> on 2009.07.20 at 15:24:39(19579) Where will this paper be published? D. Christopher Rogers +More Invertebrate Ecologist Telephone: 530.383.4798 EcoAnalysts, Inc. PO Box 4098 Davis, CA 95616 USA ________________________________ From: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com on behalf of Wilbert Hetterscheid Sent: Fri 17-Jul-09 11:14 PM To: 'Discussion of aroids' Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Typhomatum/Sauronium venosum But of course!!! By that time we can do taxonomy at the atomic level, which brings new evidence........... > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com > [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] Namens Steve Marak > Verzonden: zaterdag 18 juli 2009 7:16 > Aan: Discussion of aroids > Onderwerp: Re: [Aroid-l] Typhomatum/Sauronium venosum > > On Fri, 17 Jul 2009, Wilbert Hetterscheid wrote: > > > Sauromatum venosum. Sauromatum will be reinstated in a paper by > > Natalie Cusimano and myself, based on latest molecular evidence. It > > will include several species formerly in Typhonium. > > You're just doing this to toy with us, right? And in a couple > more years, you'll bring out *new* molecular evidence (which > you probably already have hidden away!) to resink the newly > resurrected Sauromtum back into Typhonium? > > Steve > > -- Steve Marak > -- samarak@gizmoworks.com > _______________________________________________ > Aroid-L mailing list > Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com > http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l ------_=_NextPart_001_01CA094E.4041159F _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l ------_=_NextPart_001_01CA094E.4041159F--

From: piaba <piabinha at yahoo.com> on 2009.07.20 at 18:05:41(19580) i just label them all "stinky plants from wilbert," and that solves all pro blems. ========= tsuh yang +More > In a message dated 7/18/2009 12:18:25 A.M. Central > Daylight Time, > samarak@gizmoworks.com writes: > On Fri, > 17 Jul 2009, Wilbert Hetterscheid wrote: > > >> Sauromatum venosum. > Sauromatum will be reinstated in a paper by Natalie > >> Cusimano and > myself, based on latest molecular evidence. It will > include > >> > several species formerly in Typhonium. > > > You're just doing > this to toy with us, right? And in a couple more years, > > you'll bring > out *new* molecular evidence (which you probably already > have > > hidden > away!) to resink the newly resurrected Sauromtum back > into > > > Typhonium? > > > Steve > > > Well I, for one am just glad I left mine with the > Sauromatum label > it came with! > > > Alison _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

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