Aroid l archive

From: ExoticRainforest <Steve at ExoticRainforest.com> on 2009.08.12 at 16:27:22(19703) Marek, since I suspect you have asomething to do with the Aroid l archives I'm directing this questionto you but if anyone else knows the answer or what I'm doing wrongplease do chime in. I often use the Aroid l archives to research the plants in mycollection, especially when I'm working on a new page for web page. Iespecially like to read the older posts which include a many posts frommembers that have since passed including Dr. Birdsey as well as some ofthe world's best known aroid botanists that rarely participate today. Tom, I'm certainly not including you and we all appreciate yourincredible responses. Of late, even though I tick off all the years, I only get responsesfrom the past few years. Is there a reason for this or something elseI should be doing? Do I need to specify only the early years? http://www.hort.net/lists/aroid-l/search.pl To those of you that don't know the archive exists you may want tobegin using it when you have basic questions. Certainly, feel free toask it here but you may be surprised at the depth of knowledge alreadyavailable. Steve Lucas HTML +More www.ExoticRainforest.com --------------040609030802090903030804

From: ExoticRainforest <Steve at ExoticRainforest.com> on 2009.08.12 at 16:31:54(19704) I just went to the site to do a search and discovered that all theposts prior to 1996 have been eliminated. Is there any way to recoverall of these for my personal files? I'll gladly convert all of them toPDF format since they are extremely valuable! This would be a greatloss to the IAS to not have the input of past members no longeravailable. Steve HTML +More Marek, since I suspect you have asomething to do with the Aroid l archives I'm directing this questionto you but if anyone else knows the answer or what I'm doing wrongplease do chime in. I often use the Aroid l archives to research the plants in mycollection, especially when I'm working on a new page for web page. Iespecially like to read the older posts which include a many posts frommembers that have since passed including Dr. Birdsey as well as some ofthe world's best known aroid botanists that rarely participate today. Tom, I'm certainly not including you and we all appreciate yourincredible responses. Of late, even though I tick off all the years, I only get responsesfrom the past few years. Is there a reason for this or something elseI should be doing? Do I need to specify only the early years? http://www.hort.net/lists/aroid-l/search.pl To those of you that don't know the archive exists you may want tobegin using it when you have basic questions. Certainly, feel free toask it here but you may be surprised at the depth of knowledge alreadyavailable. Steve Lucas www.ExoticRainforest.com --------------000808040305030607040908

From: Steve Marak <samarak at gizmoworks.com> on 2009.08.12 at 19:14:32(19708) _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com +More http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l ---1463802623-868464418-1250104472=:19440--

From: ExoticRainforest <Steve at ExoticRainforest.com> on 2009.08.12 at 20:25:32(19709) Thanks Steve. Until late last weekI could find posts from the 1990's and often copied the material. Anything you have would help. Steve HTML +More Steve Marak wrote: Steve,The archives at Hort.net aren't maintained by anyone in the IAS or by me as part of Aroid-L - as you know, Hort.net archives many botanical and horticultural lists. I don't know if they have some site policy on how long to keep mailing list archives, but it's entirely possible that they only started archiving Aroid-L in 1996. Remember that Aroid-L has been around since before there was much of a World Wide Web (anyone else remember "gopher"?) and before there were the sophisticated archiving options we take for granted now. I'm a little surprised they have 13 years worth!I have attempted to keep copies of all posts from the very beginning. I say "attempted" because, although paranoia is a way of life and not an illness when you work in IT and I normally keept at least 3 or 4 copies of important files, that's a lot of disk failures ago, and some of the media are pretty old and weren't all that reliable when they were new. But I will see what I can find. It'll probably take a while, since I may have to rent excavating equipment for all the old floppies and magneto-optical disks and DAT tapes ...SteveOn Wed, 12 Aug 2009, ExoticRainforest wrote: --------------050300070605000403090306

From: "Marek Argent" <abri1973 at wp.pl> on 2009.08.13 at 03:05:27(19712) Hi Steve, I'm not responsible for the archives. I'm administering the ID Center. The archive is here: http://www.aroid.org/aroidl-archive/ Marek HTML +More ----- Original Message ----- From: ExoticRainforest To: Discussion of aroids Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 6:27 PM Subject: [Aroid-l] Aroid l archive Marek, since I suspect you have a something to do with the Aroid l archives I'm directing this question to you but if anyone else knows the answer or what I'm doing wrong please do chime in. I often use the Aroid l archives to research the plants in my collection, especially when I'm working on a new page for web page. I especially like to read the older posts which include a many posts from members that have since passed including Dr. Birdsey as well as some of the world's best known aroid botanists that rarely participate today. Tom, I'm certainly not including you and we all appreciate your incredible responses. Of late, even though I tick off all the years, I only get responses from the past few years. Is there a reason for this or something else I should be doing? Do I need to specify only the early years? http://www.hort.net/lists/aroid-l/search.pl To those of you that don't know the archive exists you may want to begin using it when you have basic questions. Certainly, feel free to ask it here but you may be surprised at the depth of knowledge already available. Steve Lucas www.ExoticRainforest.com _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l ------=_NextPart_000_0069_01CA1BD3.AC207C60----==============w60457395699333015=

From: ExoticRainforest <Steve at ExoticRainforest.com> on 2009.08.13 at 22:20:29(19714) By the way, the reason I thoughtMarek Argent might be involved with the Aroid l archive is because thenet address appears to be in Poland. http://www.hort.net/lists/aroid-l/search.pl Steve Lucas HTML +More www.ExoticRainforest.com Steve Marak wrote: Steve,The archives at Hort.net aren't maintained by anyone in the IAS or by me as part of Aroid-L - as you know, Hort.net archives many botanical and horticultural lists. I don't know if they have some site policy on how long to keep mailing list archives, but it's entirely possible that they only started archiving Aroid-L in 1996. Remember that Aroid-L has been around since before there was much of a World Wide Web (anyone else remember "gopher"?) and before there were the sophisticated archiving options we take for granted now. I'm a little surprised they have 13 years worth!I have attempted to keep copies of all posts from the very beginning. I say "attempted" because, although paranoia is a way of life and not an illness when you work in IT and I normally keept at least 3 or 4 copies of important files, that's a lot of disk failures ago, and some of the media are pretty old and weren't all that reliable when they were new. But I will see what I can find. It'll probably take a while, since I may have to rent excavating equipment for all the old floppies and magneto-optical disks and DAT tapes ...SteveOn Wed, 12 Aug 2009, ExoticRainforest wrote: --------------050001070806020906070704

From: Steve Marak <samarak at gizmoworks.com> on 2009.08.14 at 04:37:32(19715) Steve, The net address is just the "www.hort.net" part - the rest is a pointer into their server, to let you go directly to the Aroid-L archive without hving to start at the top and drill down. Probably a Perl script (whose name is "search.pl"). Steve +More On Thu, 13 Aug 2009, ExoticRainforest wrote: > By the way, the reason I thought Marek Argent might be involved with the > Aroid l archive is because the net address appears to be in Poland. > > http://www.hort.net/lists/aroid-l/search.pl > > Steve Lucas > www.ExoticRainforest.com -- Steve Marak -- samarak@gizmoworks.com _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: ExoticRainforest <Steve at ExoticRainforest.com> on 2009.08.14 at 06:15:05(19717) Thanks! Steve Marak wrote: HTML +More Steve,The net address is just the "www.hort.net" part - the rest is a pointer into their server, to let you go directly to the Aroid-L archive without hving to start at the top and drill down. Probably a Perl script (whose name is "search.pl").SteveOn Thu, 13 Aug 2009, ExoticRainforest wrote: By the way, the reason I thought Marek Argent might be involved with theAroid l archive is because the net address appears to be in Poland.http://www.hort.net/lists/aroid-l/search.plSteve Lucaswww.ExoticRainforest.com -- Steve Marak-- samarak@gizmoworks.com_______________________________________________Aroid-L mailing listAroid-L@www.gizmoworks.comhttp://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l --------------030701090307000202020303

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