Dracontium amazonense variagated

From: "E.Vincent Morano" <ironious2 at yahoo.com> on 2009.09.10 at 06:52:13(19986) I have a small Dracontium amazonense that has a variegated leaf At first I thought it was white spots that were either damage or disease. But now that the leaf is bigger, it looks to be variegated for sure. I still could be wrong but I think not. It could be the result of mu hormone experiments but I was not trying to induce variegation as I do not know how. Inducing variegation seems to be a closely guarded secret. At any rate, I do not think I could duplicate it. I was trying to increase tuber growth actually. But then again, maybe I did not induce this. So my question to the experts is: Is this common for this spp to be variegated? HTML +More --0-1559547480-1252565533=:89120----============== 56958345582994724=

From: "Daniel Devor" <plantguy at zoominternet.net> on 2009.09.11 at 10:38:41(20000) Yes, it is fairly common for this species as well as polyphyllum to have variegated leaves. There are other speices with variegated leaves as well, but I'm draewing a blank on them right now.....I got a tuber of one from a person in Germany that never emerged from dormancy that was to be variegated. What I find odd is that every time a new leaf emerges is the variegation can vary wildy from a lot to none at all.....do the experts have any thoughts on that phenomena? I've attached a pic of my variegated D. amazoense. This is my favorite genus of aroids, but they can be tough here in zone 6 without a GH.....I've had several now for 5-6 years and find a few species to be quite manageable even for me. Good growing, Dan HTML +More Gibsonia, PA ----- Original Message ----- From: E.Vincent Morano To: Discussion of aroids Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 2:52 AM Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Dracontium amazonense variagated I have a small Dracontium amazonense that has a variegated leaf At first I thought it was white spots that were either damage or disease. But now that the leaf is bigger, it looks to be variegated for sure. I still could be wrong but I think not. It could be the result of mu hormone experiments but I was not trying to induce variegation as I do not know how. Inducing variegation seems to be a closely guarded secret. At any rate, I do not think I could duplicate it. I was trying to increase tuber growth actually. But then again, maybe I did not induce this. So my question to the experts is: Is this common for this spp to be variegated? _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l ------=_NextPart_001_004E_01CA32AA.80B19030--------=_NextPart_000_004D_01CA32AA.80B19030

From: <ju-bo at msn.com> on 2009.09.11 at 15:39:25(20001) Dear Vincent, There is no mention of ''natural'' variegation in Dracontium amazonense in the literature I have.  We are left with three possibilities of which I can think --- 1) Your treatment w/ chemicals has caused this condition. 2) This variegation has spontainuosly developed in your plant. 3)  Your plant has become infected w/ ''Dasheen mosiac virus", very common in MANY genera of cultivated aroids, it slowly weakens the infected plant over time.   No cure, and infected plants if confirmed should be burnt.  It is spread by sucking insects such as Aphids. Good Growing, Julius HTML +More Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 23:52:13 -0700 From: ironious2@yahoo.com To: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Dracontium amazonense variagated I have a small Dracontium amazonense that has a variegated leaf At first I thought it was white spots that were either damage or disease. But now that the leaf is bigger, it looks to be variegated for sure. I still could be wrong but I think not. It could be the result of mu hormone experiments but I was not trying to induce variegation as I do not know how. Inducing variegation seems to be a closely guarded secret. At any rate, I do not think I could duplicate it. I was trying to increase tuber growth actually. But then again, maybe I did not induce this. So my question to the experts is: Is this common for this spp to be variegated? --_f7e436a2-870f-4aa6-ae38-a81378fc232f_----==============‡72657358644340878=

From: <ju-bo at msn.com> on 2009.09.11 at 20:16:41(20004) Dear Dan and Dracontium friends, I had a GOOD look at the photo of the plant in the photo, and to me something does not look ''right''.  The leaf blades are NOT like ''normal'' healthy Dracontiums should be.  In the photo, in addition to the irregular white/cream markings, the surface of the blades are not as ''flat'' as they should be, instead they look (to me) to be wrinkled/deformed/bullate.  My personal GUESS would be some type of a virus. Good Growing, Julius HTML +More From: plantguy@zoominternet.net To: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 06:38:41 -0400 Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Dracontium amazonense variagated Yes, it is fairly common for this species as well as polyphyllum to have variegated leaves.  There are other speices with variegated leaves as well, but I'm draewing a blank on them right now.....I got a tuber of one from a person in Germany that never emerged from dormancy that was to be variegated.  What I find odd is that every time a new leaf emerges is the variegation can vary wildy from a lot to none at all.....do the experts have any thoughts on that phenomena?   I've attached a pic of my variegated D. amazoense.    This is my favorite genus of aroids, but they can be tough here in zone 6 without a GH.....I've had several now for 5-6 years and find a few species to be quite manageable even for me.   Good growing,   Dan Gibsonia, PA     ----- Original Message ----- From: E.Vincent Morano To: Discussion of aroids Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 2:52 AM Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Dracontium amazonense variagated I have a small Dracontium amazonense that has a variegated leaf At first I thought it was white spots that were either damage or disease. But now that the leaf is bigger, it looks to be variegated for sure. I still could be wrong but I think not. It could be the result of mu hormone experiments but I was not trying to induce variegation as I do not know how. Inducing variegation seems to be a closely guarded secret. At any rate, I do not think I could duplicate it. I was trying to increase tuber growth actually. But then again, maybe I did not induce this. So my question to the experts is: Is this common for this spp to be variegated? _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l --_920ac729-1326-416c-ba2f-490477e5837c_----==============g87265276856102172=

From: "Wilbert Hetterscheid" <hetter at xs4all.nl> on 2009.09.11 at 20:19:41(20005) I have had several species with plants with and without this variegation that usually diasppears in larger specimens (amazonense, pittieri, polyphyllum). I think it is innate to the genus, not a disease. Cheers, Wilbert +More > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com > [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] Namens Daniel Devor > Verzonden: vrijdag 11 september 2009 12:39 > Aan: Discussion of aroids > Onderwerp: Re: [Aroid-l] Dracontium amazonense variagated > > Yes, it is fairly common for this species as well as > polyphyllum to have variegated leaves. There are other > speices with variegated leaves as well, but I'm draewing a > blank on them right now.....I got a tuber of one from a > person in Germany that never emerged from dormancy that was > to be variegated. What I find odd is that every time a new > leaf emerges is the variegation can vary wildy from a lot to > none at all.....do the experts have any thoughts on that phenomena? > > I've attached a pic of my variegated D. amazoense. > > This is my favorite genus of aroids, but they can be tough > here in zone 6 without a GH.....I've had several now for 5-6 > years and find a few species to be quite manageable even for me. > > Good growing, > > Dan > Gibsonia, PA > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: E.Vincent Morano > To: Discussion of aroids > Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 2:52 AM > Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Dracontium amazonense variagated > > I have a small Dracontium amazonense that has a variegated > leaf At first I thought it was white spots that were either > damage or disease. But now that the leaf is bigger, it looks > to be variegated for sure. I still could be wrong but I think > not. It could be the result of mu hormone experiments but I > was not trying to induce variegation as I do not know how. > Inducing variegation seems to be a closely guarded secret. At > any rate, I do not think I could duplicate it. I was trying > to increase tuber growth actually. > > But then again, maybe I did not induce this. So my question > to the experts is: Is this common for this spp to be variegated? > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Aroid-L mailing list > Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com > http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l > > > _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "E.Vincent Morano" <ironious2 at yahoo.com> on 2009.09.12 at 19:17:16(20011) Ive attached pictures. I had to put my had behind it in a few pictures because my camera kept focusing on the table behind the plant. I refuse to participate in the in the recession. --- On Fri, 9/11/09, ju-bo@msn.com wrote: HTML +More From: ju-bo@msn.com Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Dracontium amazonense variagated To: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com Date: Friday, September 11, 2009, 1:16 PM Dear Dan and Dracontium friends, I had a GOOD look at the photo of the plant in the photo, and to me something does not look ''right''. The leaf blades are NOT like ''normal'' healthy Dracontiums should be. In the photo, in addition to the irregular white/cream markings, the surface of the blades are not as ''flat'' as they should be, instead they look (to me) to be wrinkled/deformed/bullate. My personal GUESS would be some type of a virus. Good Growing, Julius From: plantguy@zoominternet.net To: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 06:38:41 -0400 Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Dracontium amazonense variagated Yes, it is fairly common for this species as well as polyphyllum to have variegated leaves. There are other speices with variegated leaves as well, but I'm draewing a blank on them right now.....I got a tuber of one from a person in Germany that never emerged from dormancy that was to be variegated. What I find odd is that every time a new leaf emerges is the variegation can vary wildy from a lot to none at all.....do the experts have any thoughts on that phenomena? I've attached a pic of my variegated D. amazoense. This is my favorite genus of aroids, but they can be tough here in zone 6 without a GH.....I've had several now for 5-6 years and find a few species to be quite manageable even for me. Good growing, Dan Gibsonia, PA ----- Original Message ----- From: E.Vincent Morano To: Discussion of aroids Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 2:52 AM Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Dracontium amazonense variagated I have a small Dracontium amazonense that has a variegated leaf At first I thought it was white spots that were either damage or disease. But now that the leaf is bigger, it looks to be variegated for sure. I still could be wrong but I think not. It could be the result of mu hormone experiments but I was not trying to induce variegation as I do not know how. Inducing variegation seems to be a closely guarded secret. At any rate, I do not think I could duplicate it. I was trying to increase tuber growth actually. But then again, maybe I did not induce this. So my question to the experts is: Is this common for this spp to be variegated? _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks..com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l --0-1194944069-1252783037=:23418----0-644412172-1252783037=:23418

From: "Daniel Devor" <plantguy at zoominternet.net> on 2009.09.12 at 21:12:46(20013) Thanks for clearing that up Wilbert. My polyphyllum finally had a short dormancy this summer after 4 years of being evergreen and when they came back up they produced a far more magnificent plant with almost no variegation at all which corresponds to what you indicate below. I've mentioned this before here, but I've never had them bloom (my D. prancei bloomed once) and I've never had a tubercle grow (I've never removed one from momma either), but the petiole and leaf make them completely worthwhile to grow as a virtually evergreen plant here in my zone. Good growing, Dan +More Gibsonia, PA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wilbert Hetterscheid" To: "'Discussion of aroids'" Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 4:19 PM Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Dracontium amazonense variagated >I have had several species with plants with and without this variegation > that usually diasppears in larger specimens (amazonense, pittieri, > polyphyllum). I think it is innate to the genus, not a disease. > > Cheers, > Wilbert > > >> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >> Van: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com >> [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] Namens Daniel Devor >> Verzonden: vrijdag 11 september 2009 12:39 >> Aan: Discussion of aroids >> Onderwerp: Re: [Aroid-l] Dracontium amazonense variagated >> >> Yes, it is fairly common for this species as well as >> polyphyllum to have variegated leaves. There are other >> speices with variegated leaves as well, but I'm draewing a >> blank on them right now.....I got a tuber of one from a >> person in Germany that never emerged from dormancy that was >> to be variegated. What I find odd is that every time a new >> leaf emerges is the variegation can vary wildy from a lot to >> none at all.....do the experts have any thoughts on that phenomena? >> >> I've attached a pic of my variegated D. amazoense. >> >> This is my favorite genus of aroids, but they can be tough >> here in zone 6 without a GH.....I've had several now for 5-6 >> years and find a few species to be quite manageable even for me. >> >> Good growing, >> >> Dan >> Gibsonia, PA >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: E.Vincent Morano >> To: Discussion of aroids >> Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 2:52 AM >> Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Dracontium amazonense variagated >> >> I have a small Dracontium amazonense that has a variegated >> leaf At first I thought it was white spots that were either >> damage or disease. But now that the leaf is bigger, it looks >> to be variegated for sure. I still could be wrong but I think >> not. It could be the result of mu hormone experiments but I >> was not trying to induce variegation as I do not know how. >> Inducing variegation seems to be a closely guarded secret. At >> any rate, I do not think I could duplicate it. I was trying >> to increase tuber growth actually. >> >> But then again, maybe I did not induce this. So my question >> to the experts is: Is this common for this spp to be variegated? >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Aroid-L mailing list >> Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com >> http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Aroid-L mailing list > Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com > http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l > > _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

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