FORCED AMORPHOHPALLUS DORMANCY?

From: "E.Vincent Morano" <ironious2 at yahoo.com> on 2009.09.11 at 23:16:05(20007) Any body know how to force dormancy? I have several spp including cirrifer that gave me flowers then promply decided not to grow a leaf. Another one I kept breaking the leaf off and it would take so long to start growing a new one that there is not enough grow time lef in the season. Now those ones that flowered are starting to grow buds. I need them to stay asleep until next season. any ideas? I refuse to participate in the in the recession. --- On Fri, 9/11/09, ju-bo@msn.com wrote: HTML +More From: ju-bo@msn.com Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Dracontium amazonense variagated To: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com Date: Friday, September 11, 2009, 8:39 AM Dear Vincent, There is no mention of ''natural'' variegation in Dracontium amazonense in the literature I have. We are left with three possibilities of which I can think --- 1) Your treatment w/ chemicals has caused this condition. 2) This variegation has spontainuosly developed in your plant. 3) Your plant has become infected w/ ''Dasheen mosiac virus", very common in MANY genera of cultivated aroids, it slowly weakens the infected plant over time. No cure, and infected plants if confirmed should be burnt. It is spread by sucking insects such as Aphids. Good Growing, Julius Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 23:52:13 -0700 From: ironious2@yahoo.com To: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Dracontium amazonense variagated I have a small Dracontium amazonense that has a variegated leaf At first I thought it was white spots that were either damage or disease. But now that the leaf is bigger, it looks to be variegated for sure. I still could be wrong but I think not. It could be the result of mu hormone experiments but I was not trying to induce variegation as I do not know how. Inducing variegation seems to be a closely guarded secret. At any rate, I do not think I could duplicate it. I was trying to increase tuber growth actually. But then again, maybe I did not induce this. So my question to the experts is: Is this common for this spp to be variegated? -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l --0-475831190-1252710965=:39408----==============v18153708222591770=

From: "Daniel Devor" <plantguy at zoominternet.net> on 2009.09.12 at 20:57:50(20012) Ah yes, the reason I quite growing most Amorphs....they have their schedule, I have mine and mine is about 4 months long plus some time under lights......flowering and then growing a leaf in fall became routine, wanting to start growing in the fall was too routine so out they went!! At least with the Dracontium I know they are going to be nearly evergreen (like titanum) so I am ready for it with my small collection of them. Besides, Dracontium are way better looking :o) Good growing through the winter everyone, Dan HTML +More Gibsonia, PA ----- Original Message ----- From: E.Vincent Morano To: Discussion of aroids Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 7:16 PM Subject: [Aroid-l] FORCED AMORPHOHPALLUS DORMANCY? Any body know how to force dormancy? I have several spp including cirrifer that gave me flowers then promply decided not to grow a leaf. Another one I kept breaking the leaf off and it would take so long to start growing a new one that there is not enough grow time lef in the season. Now those ones that flowered are starting to grow buds. I need them to stay asleep until next season. any ideas? I refuse to participate in the in the recession. --- On Fri, 9/11/09, ju-bo@msn.com wrote: From: ju-bo@msn.com Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Dracontium amazonense variagated To: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com Date: Friday, September 11, 2009, 8:39 AM Dear Vincent, There is no mention of ''natural'' variegation in Dracontium amazonense in the literature I have. We are left with three possibilities of which I can think --- 1) Your treatment w/ chemicals has caused this condition. 2) This variegation has spontainuosly developed in your plant. 3) Your plant has become infected w/ ''Dasheen mosiac virus", very common in MANY genera of cultivated aroids, it slowly weakens the infected plant over time. No cure, and infected plants if confirmed should be burnt. It is spread by sucking insects such as Aphids. Good Growing, Julius Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 23:52:13 -0700 From: ironious2@yahoo.com To: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Dracontium amazonense variagated I have a small Dracontium amazonense that has a variegated leaf At first I thought it was white spots that were either damage or disease. But now that the leaf is bigger, it looks to be variegated for sure. I still could be wrong but I think not. It could be the result of mu hormone experiments but I was not trying to induce variegation as I do not know how. Inducing variegation seems to be a closely guarded secret. At any rate, I do not think I could duplicate it. I was trying to increase tuber growth actually. But then again, maybe I did not induce this. So my question to the experts is: Is this common for this spp to be variegated? -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01CA33CA.29865400----==============04542650695934469=

From: Ken Mosher <ken at spatulacity.com> on 2009.09.12 at 21:52:38(20016) Sorry, Erin, I think you're stuck growing those plants out-of-season. Once they want to grow it's best to let them grow. -Ken +More E.Vincent Morano wrote: > Any body know how to force dormancy? I have several spp including > cirrifer that gave me flowers then promply decided not to grow a leaf. > Another one I kept breaking the leaf off and it would take so long to > start growing a new one that there is not enough grow time lef in the > season. Now those ones that flowered are starting to grow buds. I need > them to stay asleep until next season. any ideas? > > > > > > > > I refuse to participate in the in the recession. > > --- On *Fri, 9/11/09, ju-bo@msn.com //* wrote: > > > From: ju-bo@msn.com > Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Dracontium amazonense variagated > To: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com > Date: Friday, September 11, 2009, 8:39 AM > > Dear Vincent, > > There is no mention of ''natural'' variegation in Dracontium > amazonense in the literature I have. > We are left with three possibilities of which I can think --- > > 1) Your treatment w/ chemicals has caused this condition. > > 2) This variegation has spontainuosly developed in your plant. > > 3) Your plant has become infected w/ ''Dasheen mosiac virus", > very common in MANY genera of cultivated aroids, it slowly weakens > the infected plant over time. No cure, and infected plants if > confirmed should be burnt. It is spread by sucking insects such > as Aphids. > > Good Growing, > > Julius > > _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "E.Vincent Morano" <ironious2 at yahoo.com> on 2009.09.13 at 22:54:32(20020) The reason I ask if because I do not believe I can provide the proper conditions for them. They are sure to die here. While my green house wont freeze during the winter, that is ALL it will be doing "not freezing" I cannot afford to heat it. Perhaps refrigerating them would work? I refuse to participate in the in the recession. --- On Sat, 9/12/09, Ken Mosher wrote: HTML +More From: Ken Mosher Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] FORCED AMORPHOHPALLUS DORMANCY? To: "Discussion of aroids" Date: Saturday, September 12, 2009, 2:52 PM Sorry, Erin, I think you're stuck growing those plants out-of-season. Once they want to grow it's best to let them grow. -Ken E.Vincent Morano wrote: > Any body know how to force dormancy? I have several spp including > cirrifer that gave me flowers then promply decided not to grow a leaf. > Another one I kept breaking the leaf off and it would take so long to > start growing a new one that there is not enough grow time lef in the > season. Now those ones that flowered are starting to grow buds. I need > them to stay asleep until next season. any ideas? > > > > > > > > I refuse to participate in the in the recession. > > --- On *Fri, 9/11/09, ju-bo@msn.com //* wrote: > > > From: ju-bo@msn.com > Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Dracontium amazonense variagated > To: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com > Date: Friday, September 11, 2009, 8:39 AM > > Dear Vincent, > > There is no mention of ''natural'' variegation in Dracontium > amazonense in the literature I have. > We are left with three possibilities of which I can think --- > > 1) Your treatment w/ chemicals has caused this condition. > > 2) This variegation has spontainuosly developed in your plant. > > 3) Your plant has become infected w/ ''Dasheen mosiac virus", > very common in MANY genera of cultivated aroids, it slowly weakens > the infected plant over time. No cure, and infected plants if > confirmed should be burnt. It is spread by sucking insects such > as Aphids. > > Good Growing, > > Julius > > _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l --0-56457707-1252882472=:78432----==============61201103057046518=

From: George Yao <geoyao at gmail.com> on 2009.09.14 at 07:18:00(20023) Vincent, Have you tried gradually reducing watering till the roots and leaf dry out? George Yao HTML +More Metro-Manila Philippines On 09/14/09, at 6:54 AM, E.Vincent Morano wrote: The reason I ask if because I do not believe I can provide the proper conditions for them. They are sure to die here. While my green house wont freeze during the winter, that is ALL it will be doing "not freezing" I cannot afford to heat it. Perhaps refrigerating them would work? I refuse to participate in the in the recession. --- On Sat, 9/12/09, Ken Mosher wrote: From: Ken Mosher Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] FORCED AMORPHOHPALLUS DORMANCY? To: "Discussion of aroids" Date: Saturday, September 12, 2009, 2:52 PM Sorry, Erin, I think you're stuck growing those plants out-of-season. Once they want to grow it's best to let them grow. -Ken E.Vincent Morano wrote: > Any body know how to force dormancy? I have several spp including > cirrifer that gave me flowers then promply decided not to grow a leaf. > Another one I kept breaking the leaf off and it would take so long to > start growing a new one that there is not enough grow time lef in the > season. Now those ones that flowered are starting to grow buds. I need > them to stay asleep until next season. any ideas? > > > > > > > > I refuse to participate in the in the recession. > > --- On *Fri, 9/11/09, ju-bo@msn.com //* wrote: > > > From: ju-bo@msn.com > Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Dracontium amazonense variagated > To: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com > Date: Friday, September 11, 2009, 8:39 AM > > Dear Vincent, > > There is no mention of ''natural'' variegation in Dracontium > amazonense in the literature I have. > We are left with three possibilities of which I can think --- > > 1) Your treatment w/ chemicals has caused this condition. > > 2) This variegation has spontainuosly developed in your plant. > > 3) Your plant has become infected w/ ''Dasheen mosiac virus", > very common in MANY genera of cultivated aroids, it slowly weakens > the infected plant over time. No cure, and infected plants if > confirmed should be burnt. It is spread by sucking insects such > as Aphids. > > Good Growing, > > Julius > > _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l --Apple-Mail-1--272426706----==============!26640475799487267=

From: "E.Vincent Morano" <ironious2 at yahoo.com> on 2009.09.15 at 06:56:38(20029) There are no roots or leaves, just a tuber that is just now deciding to grow. they are sprouting buds. I refuse to participate in the in the recession. --- On Mon, 9/14/09, George Yao wrote: HTML +More From: George Yao Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] FORCED AMORPHOHPALLUS DORMANCY? To: "Discussion of aroids" Date: Monday, September 14, 2009, 12:18 AM Vincent, Have you tried gradually reducing watering till the roots and leaf dry out? George Yao Metro-Manila Philippines On 09/14/09, at 6:54 AM, E.Vincent Morano wrote: The reason I ask if because I do not believe I can provide the proper conditions for them. They are sure to die here. While my green house wont freeze during the winter, that is ALL it will be doing "not freezing" I cannot afford to heat it. Perhaps refrigerating them would work? I refuse to participate in the in the recession. --- On Sat, 9/12/09, Ken Mosher wrote: From: Ken Mosher Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] FORCED AMORPHOHPALLUS DORMANCY? To: "Discussion of aroids" Date: Saturday, September 12, 2009, 2:52 PM Sorry, Erin, I think you're stuck growing those plants out-of-season. Once they want to grow it's best to let them grow. -Ken E.Vincent Morano wrote: > Any body know how to force dormancy? I have several spp including > cirrifer that gave me flowers then promply decided not to grow a leaf. > Another one I kept breaking the leaf off and it would take so long to > start growing a new one that there is not enough grow time lef in the > season. Now those ones that flowered are starting to grow buds. I need > them to stay asleep until next season. any ideas? > > > > > > > > I refuse to participate in the in the recession. > > --- On *Fri, 9/11/09, ju-bo@msn.com //* wrote: > > > From: ju-bo@msn.com > Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Dracontium amazonense variagated > To: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com > Date: Friday, September 11, 2009, 8:39 AM > > Dear Vincent, > > There is no mention of ''natural'' variegation in Dracontium > amazonense in the literature I have. > We are left with three possibilities of which I can think --- > > 1) Your treatment w/ chemicals has caused this condition. > > 2) This variegation has spontainuosly developed in your plant. > > 3) Your plant has become infected w/ ''Dasheen mosiac virus", > very common in MANY genera of cultivated aroids, it slowly weakens > the infected plant over time. No cure, and infected plants if > confirmed should be burnt. It is spread by sucking insects such > as Aphids. > > Good Growing, > > Julius > > _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l --0-1530972486-1252997798=:8563----==============@71876985556040011=

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