Arum italicum

From: Tony Avent <tony at plantdel.com> on 1997.12.03 at 17:15:48(1697) On the issue for forcing arums into growth, several years ago, I purchased dormant stored Arum italicum tubers. Upon planting, they refused to sprout until 1 year had passed. These had been stored dry in a warehouse at 50F Night/70F day temps. When I planted them in late winter, nothing happened until the following fall. I would like to try again, but would prefer if they would actually sprout when planted...now. Should I give them a cold treatment or what. As they aren't daffodils, little research seems to exist. Tony Avent +More Plant Delights Nursery 9241 Sauls Road Raleigh, NC 27603 USA ph 919 772-4794 fx 919 662-0370 email tony@plantdel.com USDA zone 7, 0F-100F "I Consider Every Plant Hardy Until I Have Killed It Myself...Three Times" - Avent

From: Judy Bauer <jbauer at concordnc.com> on 1998.05.22 at 17:17:49(2180) Hi Aroiders, A couple of the Arum italicum that I have been growing since 1992 have finally developed seed pods! The three tablespoons to one gallon of water solution that I poured on them in early spring seemed to stop the bloom rot. Judy Bauer +More 8440 Huckleberry Trail Concord NC 28027 US plant zone 7

From: Don Martinson <dmartin at post.its.mcw.edu> on 1998.05.23 at 01:34:38(2181) >Hi Aroiders, >A couple of the Arum italicum that I have been growing since 1992 have >finally developed seed pods! The three tablespoons to one gallon of >water solution that I poured on them in early spring seemed to stop the >bloom rot. >Judy Bauer >8440 Huckleberry Trail >Concord NC 28027 >US plant zone 7 Um... I'm confused. Are you saying that you poured between 3 tablespoons and 1 gallon of water on them in early spring or that you poured a solution of 3 tablespoons (of what?) in 1 gallon of water on them to stop bloom rot? Don Martinson +More dmartin@post.its.mcw.edu

From: grsjr at juno.com (George R Stilwell, Jr.) on 1998.05.23 at 01:40:25(2182) Judy, How did you get the tablespoons to dissolve? Ray +More _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

From: "Sue Zunino" <suez at Northcoast.com> on 1998.05.23 at 02:42:16(2183) >Judy, How did you get the tablespoons to dissolve? Ray< +More Oh you guys!! LOL! I got it, Judy! You mixed 'something' with water and sprayed, right? And it got rid of the rot, right? Here's the equasion: something = using a tablespoon + water. Figure it out! Sue Zunino

From: Judy Bauer <jbauer at concordnc.com> on 1998.05.23 at 02:46:46(2184) Don Martinson wrote: > >Hi Aroiders, > >A couple of the Arum italicum that I have been growing since 1992 have > >finally developed seed pods! The three tablespoons to one gallon of > >water solution that I poured on them in early spring seemed to stop the > >bloom rot. > >Judy Bauer +More > >8440 Huckleberry Trail > >Concord NC 28027 > >US plant zone 7 > > Um... I'm confused. Are you saying that you poured between 3 tablespoons > and 1 gallon of water on them in early spring or that you poured a solution > of 3 tablespoons (of what?) in 1 gallon of water on them to stop bloom rot? Oops! I left out the main ingredient.I mixed 3 tablespoons of Clorox to 1 gallon of water. Then I poured this mixture into the ground where the plants were growing. > Don Martinson > dmartin@post.its.mcw.edu

From: Al Wootten <awootten at NRAO.EDU> on 1998.05.26 at 14:51:50(2190) I just noticed that my A. italicum is in bloom here. This is the first time for this one! Clear skies, Al +More +---------------------------------------------------------+ |Al Wootten, Slacktide, Sturgeon Creek at the Rappahannock| |Astronomer (http://www.cv.nrao.edu/~awootten/) | |genealogy homepage http://members.tripod.com/~astral | |Deltaville, Virginia (804)776-6369 | +---------------------------------------------------------+

From: Gary Meltzer <kathann1 at tsoft.com> on 1999.03.17 at 18:07:08(3114) Once again my plague plants are coming up all over. If any one wants some, I'll swap for what have you or send some postage with a mailing label to: Gary D. Meltzer +More 113 Somerset St. Redwood City, CA 94062 Don't blame me if they take over your yard! [EMAIL REPLIES TO . REPLYING BY HITTING YOUR REPLY BUTTON WILL SEND YOUR MESSAGE BACK TO THE AROID LIST.]

From: "David S." <maui4me at charter.net> on 2004.09.21 at 03:23:15(12211) I've been growing what appear to be several varieties of Arum italicum for several years. I first got started with what was sold as A. italicum through Park Seed Co.'s wholesale division about seven years ago. These came as quite large, long tubers and were planted vertically about 4" deep. When they came up, and it became more apparent over the years, they were very different looking plants. Some of them had large, all green leaves and others had similar shaped, but not exactly, and had silver patches and spots on them. The inflorescences are also quite variable. Some are mostly green, others, greenish yellow and some of those have either a light or heavy flush of purple inside. Some of them also had purple/red spadixes while others were white. These all had tall seed spikes with red berries. They are just now starting to put out leaves and I'm going to tag them as to leaf type vs. inforescence. To add more confustion to this, I bought several pots of what were sold as A. italicum 'pictum' a few years ago and set them out in a raised bed when they went dormant. They had much smaller, yet elongated tubers and they were growing horizontally. Their leaves are dark green with heavily silvered veins. They are much shorter plants than the others mentioned above with somewhat smaller pale green spathes. All had short seed spikes with orange berries. I'm having a devil of a time figuring them out. Is this species variable like this? I've seen so many pictures on the internet that are variously labeled A. italicum, A. italicum 'pictum', A. italicum var. italicum, A. italicum subsp. marmoratum, A. maculatum & etc. All of these look like one or more of what I have. Whatever they are, they are beautiful plants during the cold weather months! The large one I first mentioned are growing in a bed interplanted with mature Typhonium venosum. As the arum leaves are fading, the typhonium leaves are just starting out and the area stays constantly green all year. Any comments from you all? Thanks! David Sizemore +More Kingsport, TN (zone 6a) _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "danny wilson" <mudwasp_ at hotmail.com> on 2004.09.21 at 05:05:38(12212) A. italicum is one of the most variable plants i have ever seen. Every italicum in my yard, every single one, is different, in every consievable way. So to answer your question, yes, they are extrmemely variable. >From: "David S." >Reply-To: Discussion of aroids >To: "Aroid-L" +More >Subject: [Aroid-l] Arum italicum >Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 23:23:15 -0400 > >I've been growing what appear to be several varieties of Arum italicum for >several years. I first got started with what was sold as A. italicum >through Park Seed Co.'s wholesale division about seven years ago. These >came as quite large, long tubers and were planted vertically about 4" deep. >When they came up, and it became more apparent over the years, they were >very different looking plants. Some of them had large, all green leaves and >others had similar shaped, but not exactly, and had silver patches and spots >on them. The inflorescences are also quite variable. Some are mostly >green, others, greenish yellow and some of those have either a light or >heavy flush of purple inside. Some of them also had purple/red spadixes >while others were white. These all had tall seed spikes with red berries. > >They are just now starting to put out leaves and I'm going to tag them as to >leaf type vs. inforescence. To add more confustion to this, I bought >several pots of what were sold as A. italicum 'pictum' a few years ago and >set them out in a raised bed when they went dormant. They had much smaller, >yet elongated tubers and they were growing horizontally. Their leaves are >dark green with heavily silvered veins. They are much shorter plants than >the others mentioned above with somewhat smaller pale green spathes. All >had short seed spikes with orange berries. > >I'm having a devil of a time figuring them out. Is this species variable >like this? I've seen so many pictures on the internet that are variously >labeled A. italicum, A. italicum 'pictum', A. italicum var. italicum, A. >italicum subsp. marmoratum, A. maculatum & etc. All of these look like one >or more of what I have. Whatever they are, they are beautiful plants during >the cold weather months! The large one I first mentioned are growing in a >bed interplanted with mature Typhonium venosum. As the arum leaves are >fading, the typhonium leaves are just starting out and the area stays >constantly green all year. Any comments from you all? > >Thanks! > >David Sizemore >Kingsport, TN (zone 6a) > >_______________________________________________ >Aroid-l mailing list >Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com >http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: Ellen Hornig <hornig at Oswego.EDU> on 2004.09.21 at 13:17:21(12214) David Sizemore asked about his arums' IDs. It's hard to tell from descriptions, but the thought occurs to me that you may have some Arum concinnatum there. If they have very large leaves and spathes, and come up distinctly earlier than A. italicum 'Pictum' (not a valid name, but widely used), that might be what they are. I don't have these any more, but your description of the tuber as being "long" rings a bell. If you can get hold of Peter Boyce's mongraph, The Genus Arum, you should be able to ID your plants- Ellen +More ******************************************************************* Ellen Hornig Seneca Hill Perennials 3712 County Route 57 Oswego, New York 13126 USA USDA zone 5B (mintemps -10 to -20F) Phone:(315) 342-5915 Fax: (315) 342-5573 Website: http://www.senecahill.com _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

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