Dracontium sp ID please

From: "Daniel Devor" <plantguy at zoominternet.net> on 2010.10.09 at 16:04:54(21534) Hi All, I''ve just been fortunate to have a lovely Dracontium bloom that I got from a fantastic person earlier this spring and I wanted to share and try to get a positive ID if possible. My notes say that this was originally collected in Peru, but sometimes my notes are not all that wonderful to be perfectly honest! As you can see, the spathe is wonderfully colored and mottled, the petioles are present at blooming (the one emerged at the same time as the influorescence) and have fairly large "thorns" compared to my other species. It is 20 inches (~51 cm) from the soil to the base of the spathe and the spathe itself is 12 inches (~30 cm) tall. The spadix itself is very small and if need be, I will try to get a picture for an ID. You can also see the pics at the following link: http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/TreasuredBotanicals/Dracontium/ I also have an influorescence on my Dracontium amazoense emerging so if there is any advice on collecting pollen I could always try for an unusal cross. I have had many great e-mail discussions with a few of you on the forum over the years about Dracontium and I appreciate all the advice you have given me that has allowed for a small amount of success on my part. While I do not have a greenhouse, they seem to do OK for me in my bathroom window on a heat mat for the winter (8 months) as they get a nice blast of humidity once a day. It has been a great spring through fall for me with my Dracontium as I have had 4 species bloom, including these two. I have a few other no-ID plants which I'm sure are large enough to bloom in the next year so maybe I will get lucky with a few others in the year to come!! If anyone has any tubers that they are willing to sell to feed my love of this genus please let me know. Looking forward to hearing what the experts think. Good growing all, Dan HTML +More Gibsonia, PA p.s. By the way, I have finally decided to join the IAS so I can read some of the journal articles on-line, but I want to know if I join now do I get all the benefits through the end of 2011 or just through the end of 2010? I have gotten some conflicting information from personal communications compared to what it seems to say on the web site. Thanks for help in clarifying this. ------=_NextPart_001_001D_01CB67AA.2F7418B0-- ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01CB67AA.2F7418B0

From: Zach DuFran <zdufran at wdtinc.com> on 2010.10.11 at 15:07:00(21539) Dan- I’m glad to hear you will be joining the IAS. When you sign up, you can specify membership for the 2011 year if you would like. If you have any problems, let me know. You can contact me personally at zach@zachandchristie.com. HTML +More Zach DuFran From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Devor Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 11:05 AM To: Discussion of aroids Subject: [Aroid-l] Dracontium sp ID please Hi All, I''ve just been fortunate to have a lovely Dracontium bloom that I got from a fantastic person earlier this spring and I wanted to share and try to get a positive ID if possible. My notes say that this was originally collected in Peru, but sometimes my notes are not all that wonderful to be perfectly honest! As you can see, the spathe is wonderfully colored and mottled, the petioles are present at blooming (the one emerged at the same time as the influorescence) and have fairly large "thorns" compared to my other species. It is 20 inches (~51 cm) from the soil to the base of the spathe and the spathe itself is 12 inches (~30 cm) tall. The spadix itself is very small and if need be, I will try to get a picture for an ID. You can also see the pics at the following link: http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/TreasuredBotanicals/Dracontium/ I also have an influorescence on my Dracontium amazoense emerging so if there is any advice on collecting pollen I could always try for an unusal cross. I have had many great e-mail discussions with a few of you on the forum over the years about Dracontium and I appreciate all the advice you have given me that has allowed for a small amount of success on my part. While I do not have a greenhouse, they seem to do OK for me in my bathroom window on a heat mat for the winter (8 months) as they get a nice blast of humidity once a day. It has been a great spring through fall for me with my Dracontium as I have had 4 species bloom, including these two. I have a few other no-ID plants which I'm sure are large enough to bloom in the next year so maybe I will get lucky with a few others in the year to come!! If anyone has any tubers that they are willing to sell to feed my love of this genus please let me know. Looking forward to hearing what the experts think.. Good growing all, Dan Gibsonia, PA p.s. By the way, I have finally decided to join the IAS so I can read some of the journal articles on-line, but I want to know if I join now do I get all the benefits through the end of 2011 or just through the end of 2010? I have gotten some conflicting information from personal communications compared to what it seems to say on the web site. Thanks for help in clarifying this. --_000_792F4A6158EAE44189316A2EAD8CCBB9357A26rainwdtinccom_-- --==============i56876113908111854=

From: "Daniel Devor" <plantguy at zoominternet.net> on 2010.10.14 at 22:25:13(21546) Thanks Zach, now that I am home for 48 hrs I will try to get to it. By the way, for anyone that wondered what this Dracontium might be, Tom Croat gave me an ID of D. spruceanum, albeit a wonderfully colored one I think!! My D. amazoense influorescence is also nearly open so it seems that the Dracontium are doing OK for me for now at least. Dan HTML +More Gibsonia, PA ----- Original Message ----- From: Zach DuFran To: Discussion of aroids Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 11:07 AM Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Dracontium sp ID please Dan- I’m glad to hear you will be joining the IAS. When you sign up, you can specify membership for the 2011 year if you would like. If you have any problems, let me know. You can contact me personally at zach@zachandchristie.com. Zach DuFran From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Devor Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 11:05 AM To: Discussion of aroids Subject: [Aroid-l] Dracontium sp ID please Hi All, I''ve just been fortunate to have a lovely Dracontium bloom that I got from a fantastic person earlier this spring and I wanted to share and try to get a positive ID if possible. My notes say that this was originally collected in Peru, but sometimes my notes are not all that wonderful to be perfectly honest! As you can see, the spathe is wonderfully colored and mottled, the petioles are present at blooming (the one emerged at the same time as the influorescence) and have fairly large "thorns" compared to my other species. It is 20 inches (~51 cm) from the soil to the base of the spathe and the spathe itself is 12 inches (~30 cm) tall. The spadix itself is very small and if need be, I will try to get a picture for an ID. You can also see the pics at the following link: http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/TreasuredBotanicals/Dracontium/ I also have an influorescence on my Dracontium amazoense emerging so if there is any advice on collecting pollen I could always try for an unusal cross. I have had many great e-mail discussions with a few of you on the forum over the years about Dracontium and I appreciate all the advice you have given me that has allowed for a small amount of success on my part. While I do not have a greenhouse, they seem to do OK for me in my bathroom window on a heat mat for the winter (8 months) as they get a nice blast of humidity once a day. It has been a great spring through fall for me with my Dracontium as I have had 4 species bloom, including these two. I have a few other no-ID plants which I'm sure are large enough to bloom in the next year so maybe I will get lucky with a few others in the year to come!! If anyone has any tubers that they are willing to sell to feed my love of this genus please let me know. Looking forward to hearing what the experts think. Good growing all, Dan Gibsonia, PA p.s. By the way, I have finally decided to join the IAS so I can read some of the journal articles on-line, but I want to know if I join now do I get all the benefits through the end of 2011 or just through the end of 2010? I have gotten some conflicting information from personal communications compared to what it seems to say on the web site. Thanks for help in clarifying this. _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l ------=_NextPart_000_007D_01CB6BCD.2494F280-- --==============92879367427947708=

From: "Marek Argent" <abri1973 at wp.pl> on 2010.10.20 at 04:00:10(21572) Dear Dan, I have posted the photos of your unid. Dracontium to the ID Center: http://www.wschowa.com/abrimaal/araceum/unid/id.htm#dracontium The link to photobucket requires a password known only to you, so nobody can see the photos. Btw1: you typed "amazoense" and I sometimes make a different mistake "amazonenese" :) Btw2: What is Amarygia? Is it a cross of Amaryllis and a different genus? Best, Marek +More ----- Original Message ----- From: Daniel Devor To: Discussion of aroids Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 6:04 PM Subject: [Aroid-l] Dracontium sp ID please Hi All, I''ve just been fortunate to have a lovely Dracontium bloom that I got from a fantastic person earlier this spring and I wanted to share and try to get a positive ID if possible. My notes say that this was originally collected in Peru, but sometimes my notes are not all that wonderful to be per

From: "plantguy at zoominternet.net" <plantguy at zoominternet.net> on 2010.10.20 at 12:47:38(21573) Hi Marek, Thanks for posting the pics. As I mentioned, Tom Croat has given it at least as sp. aff. spruceanum so that is likely correct. I forgot that I locked my pics after someone on ebay was using them to sell plants. While there are a few extra pics on PhotoBucket I posted 2 of them directly so hopefully everyone could see those. The funny thing is that when I write the name on the tag it is spelled correctly....and then I take the tag out to take pics and leave it laying in the back yard so it does not do much good anyway! Amarygia is a cross between Amaryllis and Brunsvigia and these have been around since the 1850s and originated in OZ. Good growing, Dan +More Dan Devor Gibsonia, PA Original Message: ----------------- From: Marek Argent abri1973@wp.pl Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 06:00:10 +0200 To: aroid-l@www.gizmoworks.com Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Dracontium sp ID please Dear Dan, I have posted the photos of your unid. Dracontium to the ID Center: http://www.wschowa.com/abrimaal/araceum/unid/id.htm#dracontium The link to photobucket requires a password known only to you, so nobody can see the photos. Btw1: you typed "amazoense" and I sometimes make a different mistake "amazonenese" :) Btw2: What is Amarygia? Is it a cross of Amaryllis and a different genus? Best, Marek ----- Original Message ----- From: Daniel Devor To: Discussion of aroids Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 6:04 PM Subject: [Aroid-l] Dracontium sp ID please Hi All, I''ve just been fortunate to have a lovely Dracontium bloom that I got from a fantastic person earlier this spring and I wanted to share and try to get a positive ID if possible. My notes say that this was originally collected in Peru, but sometimes my notes are not all that wonderful to be perfectly honest! As you can see, the spathe is wonderfully colored and mottled, the petioles are present at blooming (the one emerged at the same time as the influorescence) and have fairly large "thorns" compared to my other species. It is 20 inches (~51 cm) from the soil to the base of the spathe and the spathe itself is 12 inches (~30 cm) tall. The spadix itself is very small and if need be, I will try to get a picture for an ID. You can also see the pics at the following link: http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/TreasuredBotanicals/Dracontium/ I also have an influorescence on my Dracontium amazoense emerging so if there is any advice on collecting pollen I could always try for an unusal cross. I have had many great e-mail discussions with a few of you on the forum over the years about Dracontium and I appreciate all the advice you have given me that has allowed for a small amount of success on my part. While I do not have a greenhouse, they seem to do OK for me in my bathroom window on a heat mat for the winter (8 months) as they get a nice blast of humidity once a day. It has been a great spring through fall for me with my Dracontium as I have had 4 species bloom, including these two. I have a few other no-ID plants which I'm sure are large enough to bloom in the next year so maybe I will get lucky with a few others in the year to come!! If anyone has any tubers that they are willing to sell to feed my love of this genus please let me know. Looking forward to hearing what the experts think. Good growing all, Dan Gibsonia, PA p.s. By the way, I have finally decided to join the IAS so I can read some of the journal articles on-line, but I want to know if I join now do I get all the benefits through the end of 2011 or just through the end of 2010? I have gotten some conflicting information from personal communications compared to what it seems to say on the web site. Thanks for help in clarifying this. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Nie znaleziono wirusów w tej wiadomosci. Sprawdzone przez AVG - www.avg.com Wersja: 10.0.1120 / Baza danych wirusów: 422/3185 - Data wydania: 2010-10-08 -------------------------------------------------------------------- myhosting.com - Premium Microsoft® Windows® and Linux web and applicati on hosting - http://link.myhosting.com/myhosting _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

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