Aspidistra lurida 'Milky Way'

From: hermine <hermine at endangeredspecies.com> on 2010.10.30 at 00:58:10(21590) > > >Hi guys >I did a quick google on Aglaonema costatum, and all I come up with >are all these fancy cultivars. >The mother plant, labeled A. costatum, from the IAS show has a >growth habit and foliage that looks EXACTLY like Aspidistra lurida >Milky Way. Did the vendor forget to label a specific cultivar name >on this plant? Or is this the true, unmolested, natural species? >(With all those lovely yellow dots.) >So, does anybody have a Bognera to trade? :) >Jude Speaking of which, do you know where a person can get Aspidistra lurida 'Milky Way'? hermine +More _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: santoury at aol.com on 2010.10.30 at 03:20:26(21593) Hi, I have Asp. lurida Milky Way. Contact me if you want to do a swap.. Thanks! -----Original Message----- HTML +More From: hermine To: aroid-l@www.gizmoworks.com Sent: Fri, Oct 29, 2010 8:58 pm Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Aspidistra lurida 'Milky Way' > > >Hi guys >I did a quick google on Aglaonema costatum, and all I come up with >are all these fancy cultivars. >The mother plant, labeled A. costatum, from the IAS show has a >growth habit and foliage that looks EXACTLY like Aspidistra lurida >Milky Way. Did the vendor forget to label a specific cultivar name >on this plant? Or is this the true, unmolested, natural species? >(With all those lovely yellow dots.) >So, does anybody have a Bognera to trade? :) >Jude Speaking of which, do you know where a person can get Aspidistra lurida 'Milky Way'? hermine _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l ----------MB_8CD45F8883D2430_1774_D7BE_webmail-d006.sysops.aol.com-- --==============R39980142922019314=

From: Don Martinson <llmen at wi.rr.com> on 2010.10.30 at 14:55:27(21599) The species is different, but here is a link to an Aspidistra 'Milky Way': https://www.plantdelights.com/Catalog/Plants/Aspidistra-elatior-Amanogawa.ht ml I cannot address the finer points of taxonomy. However, Hortus III suggests that most material sold under the name of A. lurida is, in fact A. elatior. Don Martinson +More Milwaukee, Wisconsin Mailto:llmen@wi.rr.com On 10/29/10 7:58 PM, "hermine" wrote: > > Speaking of which, do you know where a person can get Aspidistra > lurida 'Milky Way'? > > hermine _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: santoury at aol.com on 2010.11.01 at 16:08:59(21605) Hello That link takes us to an empty Book page. I grow both species, and elatior is a huge plant, and lurida is diminutive in comparison. They are quite distinct. I have never seen an elatior-sized "Milky Way." I would maintain that they are A. elatior, and A. lurida Milky Way. The species is different, but here is a link to an Aspidistra 'Milky Way': https://www.plantdelights.com/Catalog/Plants/Aspidistra-elatior-Amanogawa.ht ml I cannot address the finer points of taxonomy. However, Hortus III suggests that most material sold under the name of A. lurida is, in fact A. elatior.. Don Martinson HTML +More Milwaukee, Wisconsin Mailto:llmen@wi.rr.com On 10/29/10 7:58 PM, "hermine" wrote: > > Speaking of which, do you know where a person can get Aspidistra > lurida 'Milky Way'? > > hermine _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l ----------MB_8CD47F63A6212BF_80C_7AC_Webmail-m122.sysops.aol.com-- --==============24055050685299435=

From: Eric Schmidt <eric.schmidt at cityoforlando.net> on 2010.11.01 at 16:17:59(21606) Almost all of what is sold and grown in cultivation as Aspidistra elatior 'Milky Way' or Aspidistra lurida 'Milky Way' is actually Aspidistra lurida 'Ginga' ("Ginga' is Japanese for Galaxy). This cultivar only has spots. The true Milky Way is rare and has spots AND stripes and is Aspidistra lurida 'Amanogawa' (Japanese for Milky Way). -- Eric Schmidt HTML +More Botanic Records Harry P. Leu Gardens 1920 N. Forest Ave. Orlando, FL. 32803 USA eric.schmidt@cityoforlando.net ph. # (407)-246-3749 fax # (407)-246-2849 www.leugardens.org On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Don Martinson wrote: The species is different, but here is a link to an Aspidistra 'Milky Way': https://www.plantdelights.com/Catalog/Plants/Aspidistra-elatior-Amanogawa.ht ml I cannot address the finer points of taxonomy. However, Hortus III suggests that most material sold under the name of A. lurida is, in fact A. elatior. Don Martinson Milwaukee, Wisconsin Mailto:llmen@wi.rr.com On 10/29/10 7:58 PM, "hermine" wrote: > > Speaking of which, do you know where a person can get Aspidistra > lurida 'Milky Way'? > > hermine _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l -- Eric Schmidt Botanic Records Harry P. Leu Gardens 1920 N. Forest Ave. Orlando, FL. 32803 USA eric.schmidt@cityoforlando.net ph. # (407)-246-3749 fax # (407)-246-2849 www.leugardens.org Florida has a very broad public records law. As a result, any written communication created or received by the City of Orlando officials and employees will be made available to the public and media, upon request, unless otherwise exempt. Under Florida law, email addresses are public records. If you do not want your email address released in response to a public records request, do not send electronic mail to this office. Instead, contact our office by phone or in writing. --90e6ba6150bcd893f804940026b3-- --==============68559753342318828=

From: santoury at aol.com on 2010.11.02 at 02:20:30(21612) You're right - I forgot, one of my friends had said "GINGA" - thanks for the correction and the clarification. Thanks! Jude -----Original Message----- From: Eric Schmidt HTML +More To: Discussion of aroids Sent: Mon, Nov 1, 2010 12:17 pm Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Aspidistra lurida 'Milky Way' Almost all of what is sold and grown in cultivation as Aspidistra elatior 'Milky Way' or Aspidistra lurida 'Milky Way' is actually Aspidistra lurida 'Ginga' ("Ginga' is Japanese for Galaxy). This cultivar only has spots. The true Milky Way is rare and has spots AND stripes and is Aspidistra lurida 'Amanogawa' (Japanese for Milky Way). -- Eric Schmidt Botanic Records Harry P. Leu Gardens 1920 N. Forest Ave. Orlando, FL. 32803 USA eric.schmidt@cityoforlando.net ph. # (407)-246-3749 fax # (407)-246-2849 www.leugardens.org On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Don Martinson wrote: The species is different, but here is a link to an Aspidistra 'Milky Way': https://www.plantdelights.com/Catalog/Plants/Aspidistra-elatior-Amanogawa.ht ml I cannot address the finer points of taxonomy. However, Hortus III suggests that most material sold under the name of A. lurida is, in fact A. elatior.. Don Martinson Milwaukee, Wisconsin Mailto:llmen@wi.rr.com On 10/29/10 7:58 PM, "hermine" wrote: > > Speaking of which, do you know where a person can get Aspidistra > lurida 'Milky Way'? > > hermine _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l -- Eric Schmidt Botanic Records Harry P. Leu Gardens 1920 N. Forest Ave. Orlando, FL. 32803 USA eric.schmidt@cityoforlando.net ph. # (407)-246-3749 fax # (407)-246-2849 www.leugardens.org Florida has a very broad public records law. As a result, any written communication created or received by the City of Orlando officials and employees will be made available to the public and media, upon request, unless otherwise exempt. Under Florida law, email addresses are public records. If you do not want your email address released in response to a public records request, do not send electronic mail to this office. Instead, contact our office by phone or in writing. _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l ----------MB_8CD484BA7EED780_219C_A59A_webmail-m013.sysops.aol.com-- --==============‘57192471927421076=

From: "Tony Avent" <tony at plantdelights.com> on 2010.11.02 at 12:02:31(21621) Don, Eric: If you thought aroid taxonomy is in a shambles, try Aspidistra. For this reason, we started our on-line Aspidistra study gallery. Although it's not complete yet, it will eventually contain images of our entire collection of 105 Aspidistra species and cultivars. We are fortunate to work with several European taxonomists, most notably Dr. H.J. Tillich, who are assisting us in naming new species at an amazing rate. I hope this helps. http://www.plantdelights.com/gallery/Aspidistra Tony Avent HTML +More Plant Delights Nursery @ Juniper Level Botanic Garden 9241 Sauls Road Raleigh, North Carolina 27603 USA Minimum Winter Temps 0-5 F Maximum Summer Temps 95-105F USDA Hardiness Zone 7b email tony@plantdelights.com website http://www.plantdelights.com phone 919 772-4794 fax 919 772-4752 "I consider every plant hardy until I have killed it myself...at least three times" - Avent From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Eric Schmidt Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 12:18 PM To: Discussion of aroids Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Aspidistra lurida 'Milky Way' Almost all of what is sold and grown in cultivation as Aspidistra elatior 'Milky Way' or Aspidistra lurida 'Milky Way' is actually Aspidistra lurida 'Ginga' ("Ginga' is Japanese for Galaxy). This cultivar only has spots. The true Milky Way is rare and has spots AND stripes and is Aspidistra lurida 'Amanogawa' (Japanese for Milky Way). -- Eric Schmidt Botanic Records Harry P. Leu Gardens 1920 N. Forest Ave. Orlando, FL. 32803 USA eric.schmidt@cityoforlando..net ph. # (407)-246-3749 fax # (407)-246-2849 www.leugardens.org On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Don Martinson wrote: The species is different, but here is a link to an Aspidistra 'Milky Way': https://www.plantdelights.com/Catalog/Plants/Aspidistra-elatior-Amanogawa.ht ml I cannot address the finer points of taxonomy. However, Hortus III suggests that most material sold under the name of A. lurida is, in fact A. elatior. Don Martinson Milwaukee, Wisconsin Mailto: href="mailto:llmen@wi.rr.com">llmen@wi.rr.com On 10/29/10 7:58 PM, "hermine" wrote: > > Speaking of which, do you know where a person can get Aspidistra > lurida 'Milky Way'? > > hermine _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l -- Eric Schmidt Botanic Records Harry P. Leu Gardens 1920 N. Forest Ave. Orlando, FL. 32803 USA eric.schmidt@cityoforlando..net ph. # (407)-246-3749 fax # (407)-246-2849 www.leugardens.org Florida has a very broad public records law. As a result, any written communication created or received by the City of Orlando officials and employees will be made available to the public and media, upon request, unless otherwise exempt. Under Florida law, email addresses are public records. If you do not want your email address released in response to a public records request, do not send electronic mail to this office. Instead, contact our office by phone or in writing. ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01CB7A64.4D4580F0-- --==============48265433051572064=

From: Eric Schmidt <eric.schmidt at cityoforlando.net> on 2010.11.03 at 13:33:28(21635) Thanks Tony.We have assembled a good sized Aspidistra collection in the last few years and noticed several of changed names recently. -- Eric Schmidt HTML +More Botanic Records Harry P. Leu Gardens 1920 N. Forest Ave. Orlando, FL. 32803 USA eric.schmidt@cityoforlando.net ph. # (407)-246-3749 fax # (407)-246-2849 www.leugardens.org On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 8:02 AM, Tony Avent wrote: Don, Eric: If you thought aroid taxonomy is in a shambles, try Aspidistra.. For this reason, we started our on-line Aspidistra study gallery. Although it's not complete yet, it will eventually contain images of our entire collection of 105 Aspidistra species and cultivars. We are fortunate to work with several European taxonomists, most notably Dr. H..J. Tillich, who are assisting us in naming new species at an amazing rate. I hope this helps. http://www.plantdelights.com/gallery/Aspidistra Tony Avent Plant Delights Nursery @ Juniper Level Botanic Garden 9241 Sauls Road Raleigh, North Carolina 27603 USA Minimum Winter Temps 0-5 F Maximum Summer Temps 95-105F USDA Hardiness Zone 7b email tony@plantdelights.com website http://www.plantdelights.com phone 919 772-4794 fax 919 772-4752 "I consider every plant hardy until I have killed it myself...at least three times" - Avent Florida has a very broad public records law. As a result, any written communication created or received by the City of Orlando officials and employees will be made available to the public and media, upon request, unless otherwise exempt. Under Florida law, email addresses are public records. If you do not want your email address released in response to a public records request, do not send electronic mail to this office. Instead, contact our office by phone or in writing. --485b393ab0f32ea1d20494261637-- --==============y04109015094055413=

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