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  Need amorphophallus ID
From: Zanezirklejr at aol.com on 2011.07.18 at 18:35:20(22145)

There's 3 photos below attached.
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From: "Marek Argent" <abri1973 at wp.pl> on 2011.07.19 at 23:29:51(22153)
Dear Zane,

It looks like a form of Am. paeoniifolius with a smooth petiole,

I have photos of a larger one,

they are still in the ID Center, but it is already identified

and the photos will be moved to Araceum

http://araceum.abrimaal.pro-e.pl/unid/amoposp1.htm

Best,

Marek Argent (Abrimaal)

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From: "Marek Argent" <abri1973 at wp.pl> on 2011.07.20 at 01:22:43(22154)
No, it is rather A. bulbifer as Bernhard says.

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From: Zanezirklejr at aol.com on 2011.07.20 at 20:01:02(22158)
We have ruled out paeoniifolius from some friends who collevct amorphs.

In a message dated 7/19/2011 8:46:32 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, abri1973@wp.pl writes:

Dear Zane,

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From: Zanezirklejr at aol.com on 2011.07.20 at 20:05:07(22159)
It is not bulbifer, no bulbils anywhere, plus the leaves are rounder than bulbifer. Here's the plant.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NL3o9w7Obc

In a message dated 7/20/2011 12:59:49 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, abri1973@wp.pl writes:

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From: Zanezirklejr at aol.com on 2011.07.20 at 20:02:37(22160)
No bulbils, and the mottling of the stem is different from bulbifer. I made a video of the plant.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NL3o9w7Obc

In a message dated 7/19/2011 8:45:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, StroWi@t-online.de writes:

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From: Bobby McGehe <bobbymcgehe at bellsouth.net> on 2011.07.22 at 09:45:07(22164)
I agree Marek, it very much appears to be A. paeoniifolius, the smooth form.

Boby McGehe

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From: Zanezirklejr at aol.com on 2011.07.22 at 21:08:51(22165)
Summer temps in the greenhouse get up to 105 Farenheit at high sun, and somewhere between 65-78 Farenheit at night. During the winter I keep the heat in the greenhouse at a constant 60 Farenheit. I bought my lambii as a plant probably 1-2 years old, and had to bring them in because the heat and sun is too hot for them, and me. You can take a shower and put on clean clothes, and go out in the shade and almost immediately you're soaking wet from sweat. I also have 2 high power attic fans (moving 19,000 cfm of air each) to pull heat out of the greenhouse during the summer.

In a message dated 7/22/2011 3:06:27 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, StroWi@t-online.de writes:

Zanezirklejr,

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From: Zanezirklejr at aol.com on 2011.07.24 at 18:53:22(22168)
Not any form of paeoniifolius, leaves i've seen online on all of those do not match.

In a message dated 7/24/2011 12:08:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, bobbymcgehe@bellsouth.net writes:

I agree Marek, it very much appears to be A. paeoniifolius, the smooth form.

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From: "Wilbert Hetterscheid" <hetter at xs4all.nl> on 2011.08.05 at 09:39:17(22170)
A. paeoniifolius

Van: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] Namens Zanezirklejr@aol.com
Verzonden: maandag 18 juli 2011 20:35
Aan: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com

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From: Zanezirklejr at aol.com on 2011.08.06 at 13:47:39(22171)
Amorphophallus paeoniifolius has small leaves, this one has big ones, as these are seedlings I doubt the first leaves are going to get 2 feet tall.

In a message dated 8/5/2011 5:48:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, hetter@xs4all.nl writes:

A. paeoniifolius

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From: Michael Pascall <mickpascall at hotmail.com> on 2011.08.07 at 03:14:19(22174)
Questioning a decree from Lord High Phallid ?
oFF WITH HIS HEAD

Michael Pascall,

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From: Walter Turner <wvturner at gmail.com> on 2011.08.07 at 09:24:42(22177)
Well, I hope, if it doesn't get identified to everyone's satisfaction, there will at least be a sample kept in a refrigerator. It needn't be from a living leaf. When the day comes when DNA sequencing can be done in your kitchen sink with a kit from the pharmacy, someone will figure it out.

I say that in view of the news report the other day of a man in Sweden who was trying to build a small atomic reactor in his kitchen to power his home.

Walter

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From: "Wilbert Hetterscheid" <hetter at xs4all.nl> on 2011.08.07 at 11:03:33(22178)
You don't have to believe me but the argument that yours has bigger leaves is irrelevant. Paeoniifolius (among many other Amorph species) cannot be accused of being stable in leaf size. In fact it is THE most variable one in the genus.

Van: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] Namens Zanezirklejr@aol.com
Verzonden: zaterdag 6 augustus 2011
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From: Jason Sarine <jasondsarine at hotmail.com> on 2011.08.08 at 01:59:16(22179)
There are varying forms of any plant species. I myself have two different clones of paeonifolius one with big "leaves" as you mention and some with a finely dissected leaf. Just because the leaf is not exactly the same as another clone you are comparing it to does not rule it out as that species. Look at A. Konjac for example, there is knightstick, leo song, gordons gold, shattered glass, and pinto. Despite their various appearances they are all nonetheless A. Konjac.  Wilbert Hetterscheid is one of the guys that would know, and for what its worth I agree with him on his identification.

Jason

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From: Zanezirklejr at aol.com on 2011.09.12 at 22:44:05(22196)
Is there a photo anywhere online of a smooth stem paeoniifolius in bloom?

In a message dated 8/16/2011 1:23:32 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, wvturner@gmail.com writes:

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