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  Blue Anthuriums
From: Susan B <honeybunny442 at yahoo.com> on 2011.11.12 at 00:25:24(22263)

Now they're going too far! ugh.
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From: Kyle Baker <kylefletcherbaker at yahoo.com> on 2011.11.13 at 11:28:41(22266)
But wait until you see the Canary day glo yellow ones!!!!!!! Wal-marts eat your heart out

Mr. Kyle Fletcher Baker, MCN
Maine Zone 5

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From: "Marek Argent" <abri1973 at wp.pl> on 2011.11.13 at 12:41:51(22267)
Dear Susan,

These are white, green or pink Anthuriums watered with a pigment, the same they do to the blue roses, Dendranthemas and other pot plants. The colour lasts until the spathes wither, at home when it blooms again, you will see the real colour.

So far nobody has done an aroid that blooms blue, although some species of Amorphophallus have pretty blue berries.

Marek

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From: The Silent Seed <santoury at aol.com> on 2011.11.13 at 12:47:40(22269)
Holy cow! Haven't seen that yet.... oh boy... But then again, those blue Phalaenopsis are "real" - I wonder if these are?

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From: Corey W <cewickliffe at gmail.com> on 2011.11.13 at 21:08:41(22270)
Are those dyed? I walked into a home depot recently to see a whole selection of what are clearly moth orchids "dyed" blue. I remember something about giving them dye in the water to get them to do that in the past, but these significantly blue flowers make me wonder what they are doing now...

Not that these plants are meant to live beyond a limited flowering period anyways (sad enough) but I wonder how many unsuspecting owners get them to bloom again only to find out they are white! The plant version of injected flourescent dye glass fish and tattooed platies from the fish world. Makes me sad.

Corey

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From: The Silent Seed <santoury at aol.com> on 2011.11.14 at 04:59:20(22272)
I actually think those blue Phal's are "real" - from what I have read - don't hold it against me though - I didn't research it fully.
Watered/sprayed with pigment? Interesting - never heard that one before. It reminds me of when I was a little boy, and my father showed me how to dye celery - by putting celery stalks into a glass of water with blue, red, etc, food coloring - it was fun!

Jude

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From: Susan B <honeybunny442 at yahoo.com> on 2011.11.14 at 05:01:00(22273)
Yes, this is the same proprietary treatment that makes the blue orchids. Supposedly it is a little more than the old "put the white carnation in the food dye" trick. From what I understand the first flowers on the orchid are dark blue, the next set lighter- the next lighter yet. They eventually get back to white but it takes a while-

Rijinplants I think is the name of the company, they licensed the treatment and are making the blue and also yellow anthuriums.

Still, ick.

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From: "Denis" <denis at skg.com> on 2011.11.14 at 13:32:15(22274)
Where was this picture taken? What company is selling these? I know there are labs out there now using gene spicing from other plants to try to get blue flowers on anthurium but I do not think they are far enough along to get these results. If they were they would have done it on a large flower anthurium they use for cut flower because that is where the money is.

Bill Rotolante

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From: Corey W <cewickliffe at gmail.com> on 2011.11.15 at 05:28:24(22279)
Jude - I don't doubt that there might be some real blues (or getting close to it!) given some of the deep purples I've seen the varieties have, but I think if you saw them in person you'd realize these were not giving some orchid breeder out there the hybridizer happy dance. It looks off, like the flowers were painted with watercolor or something! It was more glaring due to the "natural" untreated hybrids right next to them.

Susan- thanks for the info on the company. Interesting that the treatment lasts so long! I agree, ick no matter the flower :( also kind of feels like cheating? I want some yellow micro sinningias (gesneriads), but I don't want to treat them to get it. I'd rather do the happy hybridizer dance after a long time trying to mix and mold genetics that may not want to play my game.

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From: Kyle Baker <kylefletcherbaker at yahoo.com> on 2011.11.15 at 09:41:56(22281)
I came across an article pertaining to it in the Greenhouse Grower E-zine. They also hyped up the Blue mystique orchid...both of which are specifically designed to the design/monetary challenged...(Wal-mart shoppers) but its not said so blatantly...the Anthurium is a smaller flowered form so as not to be so obtrusive in the home decor. I don't remember who is selling these but it doesn't surprise me as several years ago folks might remember the lovely pointsettias that were dyed and glittered......and look at what they've done with some of the new Philodendrons....and they're real plants......

Mr. Kyle Fletcher Baker, MCN
Maine Zone 5

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From: hermine <hermine at endangeredspecies.com> on 2011.11.16 at 17:20:37(22288)
At 09:28 PM 11/14/2011, you wrote:

>Jude - I don't doubt that there might be some real blues (or getting
>close to it!) given some of the deep purples I've seen the varieties
>have, but I think if you saw them in person you'd realize these were
>not giving some orchid breeder out there the hybridizer happy dance.
>It looks off, like the flowers were painted with watercolor or
>something! It was more glaring due to the "natural" untreated
>hybrids right next to them.

chemicals aside, I SMELL MENDACITY in the form of PHOTOSHOP! I never
seed that colour blue on a flower in my entire life of peering at
blue flowers, especially among flowers where blue is notably absent like roses.

I got an idea. why do not the people just get spray cans and make the
flowers whatever they like.

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From: Corey W <cewickliffe at gmail.com> on 2011.11.16 at 20:18:06(22290)
Some of the new philodendrons? Dare I ask?

I am a species fan, but still love some hybrids as they can bring out some real quirks of the genetics (as long as you preserve the species as well!) but these "short cuts" just for a buck (dyes, glitter, paint, etc) really horrify me a lot of times. It makes me wish people would just buy the fake ones that look like that. I feel sad that people can't even like the plant for itself as a living thing :( Now even plants must be modified beyond nature just to add to our sensory overload!

Corey

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From: Steve Marak <samarak at gizmoworks.com> on 2011.11.16 at 20:55:39(22291)
Hermine, I can't vouch for any other photos, but the ones I sent to the
list of the Phalaenopsis orchids I took myself, and they are absolutely
untouched by Photoshop or any other editing tool, except to crop them down
to reduce the size.

How appropriate your last comment is ... years ago I worked for a Major
Retailer, and they had a "sample store" where employees could buy
merchandise samples of all sorts. One day a friend and I walked up to see
a buying frenzy - people carrying out large (5 gallon, at least) pots of
what looked to me exactly like a typical big box store Spathiphyllum,
except that the spathes were bright red! People were buying two or three
of them at a time, exclaiming about how beautiful and unusual they were.

When I got closer, I could see that the spathes had in fact been spray
painted red.

It would be funnier if it weren't sad.

Steve

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From: Corey W <cewickliffe at gmail.com> on 2011.11.16 at 21:08:27(22292)
I can also speak for Steve's Phalaenopsis photos, as I walked into Home Depot last week to see the same blue orchids. I should go back at see if I can take a pic with my phone. They didn't have the purple/red ones there, instead sitting them next to more typical Phal mass market varieties. As for how "real" they are, it's just a real life "photoshop" effort. When I originally saw the glitter covered dyed poinsettias I thought they were fake plants until I touched their leaves :(

I agree with Steve - funnier if it wasn't so sad.

Corey

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From: "Sherry Gates" <TheTropix at msn.com> on 2011.11.16 at 22:14:57(22294)
ROFL!!! P.T. Barnum & Sons Inc. Ol' P.T. would have loved that story!

Sherry

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From: "Carol McCarthy" <Carol.McCarthy at mail.wvu.edu> on 2011.11.17 at 14:04:03(22299)
I completely agree with Corey.

Carol M.

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From: "Denis" <denis at skg.com> on 2011.11.17 at 17:31:07(22301)
WOW! That’s really ugly.

Denis

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From: Zanezirklejr at aol.com on 2011.11.23 at 15:59:11(22381)
LOL they put blue dye in the water.

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From: "J. Agoston" <agoston.janos123 at gmail.com> on 2011.11.23 at 20:38:13(22389)
Here is a small article about dye infused anthuriums.
http://www.greenhousegrower.com/news/?storyidP84

Janos

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From: Kyle Baker <kylefletcherbaker at yahoo.com> on 2011.11.24 at 11:57:04(22397)
That is the article I'd read...it amazes me the hype given to the Industry over such schlock as this....but in the Cities they just eat this stuff up....

Mr. Kyle Fletcher Baker, MCN

Maine Zone 5

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From: hermine <hermine at endangeredspecies.com> on 2011.11.24 at 17:48:50(22402)
At 12:38 PM 11/23/2011, J. Agoston wrote:

Here is a small article about
dye infused anthuriums.


http://www.greenhousegrower.com/news/?storyidP84

PORNOGRAPHY! FILTH!

hermine

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From: Don Martinson <llmen at wi.rr.com> on 2011.11.24 at 18:36:23(22405)
Well, of course, the “Industry”’s mail objective is to sell merchandise.

Don Martinson

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