Araceae Juss. 1789

From: "Marek Argent" <abri1973 at wp.pl> on 2011.11.19 at 00:48:19(22331) Hello, This was always a question for me and I've never tried to find the answer so far. If the family name Araceae was stated in 1789, in what family did Linnaeus place the aroids? Marek HTML +More ------=_NextPart_000_0285_01CCA65D.506ECDB0-- --==============�98153652390998835==

From: "Tom Croat" <Thomas.Croat at mobot.org> on 2011.11.20 at 04:47:26(22337) Dear Marak: I believfe that Linnaeus did recognize the Araceae but he recognized only 4 genera, as I recall they were Pothos, Dracontium and Calla plus one other genus. The genera were very artificial and later Schott and others added many more genera, like Anthurium. All the earliest Anthurium species were described in Pothos. Tom HTML +More From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Marek Argent Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 6:48 PM To: discussion of aroids Subject: [Aroid-l] Araceae Juss. 1789 Hello, This was always a question for me and I've never tried to find the answer so far. If the family name Araceae was stated in 1789, in what family did Linnaeus place the aroids? Marek ------_=_NextPart_001_01CCA73F.8051AF05-- --==============807759483109095584==

From: Alistair Hay <ajmhay at hotmail.com> on 2011.11.20 at 06:41:48(22342) Linnaeus did not recognise families. His system was based on numbers of floral parts and often grouped unrelated plants together. Aroids were put in 'Gynandria Polyandria', along with Grewia (Tiliaceae/Malvaceae) and Zostera (Zosteraceae). Arum was the other one. Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 22:47:26 -0600 HTML +More From: Thomas.Croat@mobot.org To: aroid-l@www.gizmoworks.com Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Araceae Juss. 1789 Dear Marak:  I believfe that Linnaeus did recognize the Araceae but he recognized only 4 genera, as I recall they were Pothos, Dracontium and Calla plus one other genus. The genera were very artificial and later Schott and others added many more genera, like Anthurium.  All the earliest Anthurium species were described in Pothos.   Tom   From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Marek Argent Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 6:48 PM To: discussion of aroids Subject: [Aroid-l] Araceae Juss. 1789   Hello,   This was always a question for me and I've never tried to find the answer so far. If the family name Araceae was stated in 1789, in what family did Linnaeus place the aroids?   Marek _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l --_da6a7687-4649-4e6d-8f00-c206380bf096_-- --==============x45649017411707935==

From: "Marek Argent" <abri1973 at wp.pl> on 2011.11.20 at 22:35:47(22349) The genera published by Linnaeus were Arum, Calla, Dracontium, Lemna, Orontium, Pistia and Pothos. Lemna of course was included into Araceae a few years ago. He published Species Plantarum more than 30 years before the family name Araceae was published, that's why I wonder as members of what family/families he described them. Marek HTML +More ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Croat To: Discussion of aroids Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 5:47 AM Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Araceae Juss. 1789 Dear Marak: I believfe that Linnaeus did recognize the Araceae but he recognized only 4 genera, as I recall they were Pothos, Dracontium and Calla plus one other genus. The genera were very artificial and later Schott and others added many more genera, like Anthurium. All the earliest Anthurium species were described in Pothos. Tom From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Marek Argent Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 6:48 PM To: discussion of aroids Subject: [Aroid-l] Araceae Juss. 1789 Hello, This was always a question for me and I've never tried to find the answer so far. If the family name Araceae was stated in 1789, in what family did Linnaeus place the aroids? Marek _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l No virus found in the message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 2092/4028 - Release Date: 11/20/11 ------=_NextPart_000_00A4_01CCA7DD.2114BD00-- --==============r88987917904661728==

From: "Marek Argent" <abri1973 at wp.pl> on 2011.11.20 at 22:46:27(22351) I really didn't know this (and everyone working with plants should). Thanks a lot Marek HTML +More ----- Original Message ----- From: Alistair Hay To: aroid-l@www.gizmoworks.com Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 7:41 AM Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Araceae Juss. 1789 Linnaeus did not recognise families. His system was based on numbers of floral parts and often grouped unrelated plants together. Aroids were put in 'Gynandria Polyandria', along with Grewia (Tiliaceae/Malvaceae) and Zostera (Zosteraceae). Arum was the other one. Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 22:47:26 -0600 From: Thomas.Croat@mobot.org To: aroid-l@www.gizmoworks.com Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Araceae Juss. 1789 Dear Marak: I believfe that Linnaeus did recognize the Araceae but he recognized only 4 genera, as I recall they were Pothos, Dracontium and Calla plus one other genus. The genera were very artificial and later Schott and others added many more genera, like Anthurium. All the earliest Anthurium species were described in Pothos. Tom From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Marek Argent Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 6:48 PM To: discussion of aroids Subject: [Aroid-l] Araceae Juss. 1789 Hello, This was always a question for me and I've never tried to find the answer so far. If the family name Araceae was stated in 1789, in what family did Linnaeus place the aroids? Marek _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l No virus found in the message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 2092/4028 - Release Date: 11/20/11 ------=_NextPart_000_00F3_01CCA7DE.9EE221E0-- --==============27115893847263185==

From: "Tom Croat" <Thomas.Croat at mobot.org> on 2011.11.22 at 04:04:40(22364) Dear Alistair: Thanks for straightening me out on that matter! I hope that you are happy and well. All the best, Tom HTML +More From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Alistair Hay Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 12:42 AM To: aroid-l@www.gizmoworks.com Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Araceae Juss. 1789 Linnaeus did not recognise families. His system was based on numbers of floral parts and often grouped unrelated plants together. Aroids were put in 'Gynandria Polyandria', along with Grewia (Tiliaceae/Malvaceae) and Zostera (Zosteraceae). Arum was the other one. Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 22:47:26 -0600 From: Thomas.Croat@mobot.org To: aroid-l@www.gizmoworks.com Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Araceae Juss. 1789 Dear Marak: I believfe that Linnaeus did recognize the Araceae but he recognized only 4 genera, as I recall they were Pothos, Dracontium and Calla plus one other genus. The genera were very artificial and later Schott and others added many more genera, like Anthurium. All the earliest Anthurium species were described in Pothos. Tom From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Marek Argent Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 6:48 PM To: discussion of aroids Subject: [Aroid-l] Araceae Juss. 1789 Hello, This was always a question for me and I've never tried to find the answer so far. If the family name Araceae was stated in 1789, in what family did Linnaeus place the aroids? Marek _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l ------_=_NextPart_001_01CCA8CB.DB7FD2DD-- --==============P64139395042666942==

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