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  Philodendron sp. 'Burle-Marx Fantasy'
From: Corey W <cewickliffe at gmail.com> on 2012.12.26 at 13:48:10(22749)
Does anyone know the history of this plant? I found a stock photo of what looks like this species that may be growing in the wild....

http://www.superstock.com/stock-photos-images/1566-080742

My interest in this is that I've grown this plant personally for nearly a decade now and know very little about it but what I was told when I got it... it is a naturally occurring species that was found in Burle Marx's garden and it was unknown where it was collected (which is why it was never described). Finding the above linked photo stunned me a bit, since it looks like the plant is in the wild and was found near Manuas, Brazil. Could it be possible that this is "Burle Marx Fantasy" in the wild? Should we be trying to track down this photographer to find out more exactly where this photo was taken so we can attempt to have a wild locality and finally have this species described?

What else is known about this philodendron?

Best, Corey

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From: "derek burch" <derek at horticulturist.com> on 2012.12.26 at 14:37:44(22750)
Corey, no one has bothered even to start
the registration process for this cultivar name, so there is no lead that way.
Actually I don’t know why I bother to mention that it isn’t registered
since almost no one has cooperated with our effort starting a few years back to
set up a documented registry.

Albert has done a great job of listing the
names that we have come across, but it doesn’t look as though we should
continue to claim to be the international registry for aroids unless anyone
would like to pick up the ball. Derek

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From: Hermine Stover <hermine at endangeredspecies.com> on 2012.12.27 at 09:38:04(22751)
At 01:48 PM 12/26/2012, you wrote:

Does anyone know the history of
this plant? I found a stock photo of what looks like this species that
may be growing in the wild....


http://www.superstock.com/stock-photos-images/1566-080742

I have grown Burle Marx for years, starting with some small plant I got
at Roehr's in New Jersey in the late sixties. something about this photo
looks highly massaged, and I do not know if it is colour enhancement or
what, since I do not have those fancy programs to do that. As I
recall, many of us plant people in NY and Massachussets who had the
greenhouse facilities, grew this plant and many of us got them from
Roehr's Nursery in East Rutherford New Jersey, a magical place.

hermine

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From: "Tom Croat" <Thomas.Croat at mobot.org> on 2012.12.28 at 10:58:28(22752)
Dear Hermine:

I wanted to suggest that we send this to a
couple of my friends in Brazil
for their comments. Would this be ok with you?

Tom

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From: Hermine Stover <hermine at endangeredspecies.com> on 2012.12.30 at 15:52:43(22753)
I am laughing that you ask my permission! Please, go and ask, with
my blessings....by the way I later got some more Burle Marx from Jerry
Horne in Miami FL. sometimes i bought plants of the same advertised
name in order to see if they were really the same. in fact, I still do
this. I remember seeing this picture in EXOTICA in the Brooklyn Public
Library reference section and having a conniption fit of desire over it.
middle 1960's when i was sort of an infant.

hermine

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From: Hermine Stover <hermine at endangeredspecies.com> on 2012.12.30 at 15:52:43(22754)
I am laughing that you ask my permission! Please, go and ask, with
my blessings....by the way I later got some more Burle Marx from Jerry
Horne in Miami FL. sometimes i bought plants of the same advertised
name in order to see if they were really the same. in fact, I still do
this. I remember seeing this picture in EXOTICA in the Brooklyn Public
Library reference section and having a conniption fit of desire over it.
middle 1960's when i was sort of an infant.

hermine

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From: Brian Williams <pugturd at windstream.net> on 2012.12.30 at 16:52:44(22755)
I seem to remember that the mature leaves of Burle Marx Fantasy are
different once fully adult then compared to juvenile leaves. A dark blue
green color with not markings and around 6 inches to just under 9 inches
long. I have not seen many grow them to full size. Might be why it is
not noticed as often in the wild?

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From: Corey W <cewickliffe at gmail.com> on 2012.12.30 at 19:56:06(22756)
Tom, I was the one who posted the first bit asking for more information on 'Burle Marx Fantasy' and provided the link. I figured if anyone was interested I would pursue either getting a higher resolution copy of that photo (which would be larger with more detail) and/or follow up with the company to get ahold of the photographer and ask the locality the photo was taken at. I am very interested in learning more about this species as a whole, and I am a researcher so anything to help science LOL.

Hermine - are we talking the same plant? I know there is a 'Burle Marx' (which I don't know much about but it is a large green plant that I'm not sure if it is a species or hybrid) and 'Burle Marx Fantasy' which is a small, slow growing, grey-green leaf with darker markings on the veins. The photo is right on for my plant, if not a bit more green likely from processing (likely HDR or just trying to make up for low light). This is not the juvenile form of 'Burle Marx', but a completely different plant from the same source. Often when I talk about 'Burle Marx Fantasy' there is confusion for those who haven't seen it, and I hope not to start or continue confusion over it. I don't even know if anyone has even managed to flower it.

Best, Corey

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From: brian lee <lbmkjm at yahoo.com> on 2012.12.31 at 08:58:26(22757)
Dear Corey,

Aloha.

I can clear up some of the confusion with Philodendron associated with the name,
Burle Marx.

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From: "Tom Croat" <Thomas.Croat at mobot.org> on 2013.01.02 at 11:08:42(22759)
Dear Corey:

I have sent this picture to my friends in Brazil asking
them if they know what this plant is. So far only Eduardo Goncalves has
responded saying that he does not know it. It would be nice to get a
“larger” image of this plant. Does anyone know just where in the
Amazon region this species was seen?

Tom

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From: Marcus Nadruz <mnadruz at jbrj.gov.br> on 2013.01.03 at 12:55:13(22764)
Tom,

Happy new year!
I did not get that picture, you could resend again? thank you

Marcus

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From: Michael Pascall <mickpascall at hotmail.com> on 2013.01.03 at 23:49:11(22765)

Hope this image is not to large . 
It is a very slow growing sp. 

Michael Pascall,

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From: "Tom Croat" <Thomas.Croat at mobot.org> on 2013.01.04 at 19:22:15(22766)
Dear Michael:

Many thanks. It is quite a distinctive
thing but I assume that this is a juvenile form. Has anyone ever managed to
flower the plant?

Tom

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