Introduction / true to species material

From: Tom Croat <Thomas.Croat at mobot.org> on 2014.09.28 at 03:41:39(23112) Dear John: Anthurium scherzerianum is rare, even in the wilds of Costa Rica where it was described. It does indeed come from high elevations, 1300-2400 m and I can’t imagine that it could be long cultivated at near sea level. Tom HTML +More From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of John Criswick Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 10:34 PM To: 'Discussion of aroids' Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Introduction / true to species material of Anthurium scherzerianum This is interesting! A. scherzerianum has for so long dropped out of sight that I had forgotten its existence. But it was a species much valued as a potted plant. I wonder why it disappeared? Unfortunately I have no good news to offer you since A. scherzerianum is not happy under tropical conditions. It is apparently indigenous to high altitudes in the tropics? Johnj Criswick. -----Original Message----- From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of S.M. Wellinga Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 2:45 PM To: aroid-l@www.gizmoworks.com Subject: [Aroid-l] Introduction / true to species material of Anthurium scherzerianum Hello Forum, I joined this list a couple of weeks ago, and after having lurked this long I guess an introduction is appropriate. I have studied Biology at the University of Amsterdam, and am living in the north of The Netherlands, province of Friesland. Ever since I was a small boy, I have had a keen interest in anything green - this besides my other great pastime, bird watching. Over the last 35 years, my interest has mainly been focused on the cultivation of botanical orchids, of which I now have some 400 plants and close to 200 species. Besides these, I have a fair share of other botanical plant species, such as bromeliads (mainly Tillandsias), gesneriads, cacti (mainly epiphytic species and winter hardy Echinocerei), some Hoyas and Hippeastrums, several carnivorous plants etc. growing in an artificial raised bog in the back yard, and a couple of Anthurium species (A. andraeanum, A. cabrerense, A. flavolineatum, A. gracile, A. scandens and an unidentified species, bought from Ecuagener a as A. flavolineatum, but to me something totally different). It is with respect to the latter genus that would like to ask for a favour. Since a long time I have tried to source material of true to species Anthurium scherzerianum. I remember that when I was in my teens, A. scherzerianum was still easy to find from florists (which back then often still propagated plants from their own stock, instead of offering laboratory produced 'mass crops' as is the norm today), but since then the true species has disappeared in favour of Anthurium hybrids - which, in The Netherlands unfortunately are still offered as A. scherzerianum. Should any one of you be growing botanically pure material of A. scherzerianum, I would be much interested in obtaining either cuttings, or fresh berries that preferably are the result of controlled pollination, for which I am willing to pay. I therefore kindly request anyone having material to share to contact me privately. Looking forward to hear from you, and with best regards, Simon M. Wellinga Heerenveen, The Netherlands / EU _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l --_000_442112D3D8737B41868F544B2D822F87601E01C2MBGMail02moboto_-- --==============s90275944473116899==

From: "John Criswick" <criswick at spiceisle.com> on 2016.01.08 at 01:18:19(23520) Hi Tom, HTML +More I was interested to see that summer temperatures are too high at Mobot for growing certain things. Would you say that that is also true of Atlanta Botanical Gardens? They have what appears to be good temperature control for high elevation species. Regards, John. -----Original Message----- From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Tom Croat Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 1:59 PM To: Discussion of aroids Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Introduction / true to species material of Anthurium scherzerianum Dear Simon: I don't have it in cultivation any more but I think it is reasonably common near the divide at Vara Blanca on the old road to Puerto Viejo from San José. I too have not seen in in any collection in the US. You would have a much better chance to keep it alive in Holland than nearly any living collection here where the summer temperatures are too high. Certainly I will let you know if I encounter it anywhere. Tom -----Original Message----- From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of S.M. Wellinga Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 4:45 PM To: aroid-l@www.gizmoworks.com Subject: [Aroid-l] Introduction / true to species material of Anthurium scherzerianum Hello Forum, I joined this list a couple of weeks ago, and after having lurked this long I guess an introduction is appropriate. I have studied Biology at the University of Amsterdam, and am living in the north of The Netherlands, province of Friesland. Ever since I was a small boy, I have had a keen interest in anything green - this besides my other great pastime, bird watching. Over the last 35 years, my interest has mainly been focused on the cultivation of botanical orchids, of which I now have some 400 plants and close to 200 species. Besides these, I have a fair share of other botanical plant species, such as bromeliads (mainly Tillandsias), gesneriads, cacti (mainly epiphytic species and winter hardy Echinocerei), some Hoyas and Hippeastrums, several carnivorous plants etc. growing in an artificial raised bog in the back yard, and a couple of Anthurium species (A. andraeanum, A. cabrerense, A. flavolineatum, A. gracile, A. scandens and an unidentified species, bought from Ecuagener a as A. flavolineatum, but to me something totally different). It is with respect to the latter genus that would like to ask for a favour. Since a long time I have tried to source material of true to species Anthurium scherzerianum. I remember that when I was in my teens, A. scherzerianum was still easy to find from florists (which back then often still propagated plants from their own stock, instead of offering laboratory produced 'mass crops' as is the norm today), but since then the true species has disappeared in favour of Anthurium hybrids - which, in The Netherlands unfortunately are still offered as A. scherzerianum. Should any one of you be growing botanically pure material of A. scherzerianum, I would be much interested in obtaining either cuttings, or fresh berries that preferably are the result of controlled pollination, for which I am willing to pay. I therefore kindly request anyone having material to share to contact me privately. Looking forward to hear from you, and with best regards, Simon M. Wellinga Heerenveen, The Netherlands / EU _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01D1496F.6A0C3F00-- --==============G47652125717525376==

From: Conrad Fleming <conradfleming at yahoo.com> on 2016.01.08 at 16:03:08(23522) Dear Simon, Your message on A. scherzerianum (which I also knew as a young collector back in the 1970s) highlights what I have always stressed, namely that true species are being pushed out of cultivation by hybrid swarms. Have you ever tried to obtain a true Aglaonema sp. lately? The horticultural industry is helping to destroy the precious, disappearing legacy of our martyred planet by replacing true spp. with man-made hybrid bastards. And governments are making it practically impossible to collect and therefore propagate fresh stocks of wild spp. At some point in the latter part of this century, people are going to realize just what a conservation opportunity was missed. I'll be happily and safely dead and gone by that time. I rarely respond to forums but I thought this is a major issue that must be addressed. If anyone wants to contact me personally, my e-mail is conraddfleming@gmail.com All the best, Conrad Fleming HTML +More On Thursday, January 7, 2016 4:46 PM, Tom Croat wrote: Dear Simon: I don't have it in cultivation any more but I think it is reasonably common near the divide at Vara Blanca on the old road to Puerto Viejo from San José. I too have not seen in in any collection in the US. You would have a much better chance to keep it alive in Holland than nearly any living collection here where the summer temperatures are too high. Certainly I will let you know if I encounter it anywhere. Tom -----Original Message----- From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of S.M. Wellinga Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 4:45 PM To: aroid-l@www.gizmoworks.com Subject: [Aroid-l] Introduction / true to species material of Anthurium scherzerianum Hello Forum, I joined this list a couple of weeks ago, and after having lurked this long I guess an introduction is appropriate. I have studied Biology at the University of Amsterdam, and am living in the north of The Netherlands, province of Friesland. Ever since I was a small boy, I have had a keen interest in anything green - this besides my other great pastime, bird watching. Over the last 35 years, my interest has mainly been focused on the cultivation of botanical orchids, of which I now have some 400 plants and close to 200 species. Besides these, I have a fair share of other botanical plant species, such as bromeliads (mainly Tillandsias), gesneriads, cacti (mainly epiphytic species and winter hardy Echinocerei), some Hoyas and Hippeastrums, several carnivorous plants etc. growing in an artificial raised bog in the back yard, and a couple of Anthurium species (A. andraeanum, A. cabrerense, A. flavolineatum, A. gracile, A. scandens and an unidentified species, bought from Ecuagener a as A. flavolineatum, but to me something totally different). It is with respect to the latter genus that would like to ask for a favour. Since a long time I have tried to source material of true to species Anthurium scherzerianum. I remember that when I was in my teens, A. scherzerianum was still easy to find from florists (which back then often still propagated plants from their own stock, instead of offering laboratory produced 'mass crops' as is the norm today), but since then the true species has disappeared in favour of Anthurium hybrids - which, in The Netherlands unfortunately are still offered as A. scherzerianum. Should any one of you be growing botanically pure material of A. scherzerianum, I would be much interested in obtaining either cuttings, or fresh berries that preferably are the result of controlled pollination, for which I am willing to pay. I therefore kindly request anyone having material to share to contact me privately. Looking forward to hear from you, and with best regards, Simon M. Wellinga Heerenveen, The Netherlands / EU _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l ------=_Part_2039383_1848763674.1452268988157-- --==============T52290952654984323==

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