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  aroid-L vs FB [was:Zamioculcas - like Gonatopus ?
From: "Bernhard." <strowi at t-online.de> on 2018.08.07 at 09:32:15(23891)
Well folks, you see I am not a native speaker.....

...so please write a message to "remind" people that the aroid-L is
still active and that peopöe can post pics...

Happy posting, Bernhard.

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From: Steve Marak <samarak at gizmoworks.com> on 2018.08.07 at 16:37:27(23894)
What seems to happen is that people don't actually unsubscribe
from Aroid-L - they just stop posting. When enough people stop
posting, then someone will create a new forum using whatever the
current technology is, and everyone joins that because that's
where the action is, at least for a while. A lot of the community
is the same across all the different fora, because we don't want
to miss out. But we're all still here, and we will respond if
poked a bit, as the response to Jude's post shows.

Usenet groups were the first such gathering places of which I'm
aware (and it was mostly computer geeks on Usenet, because mostly
only we had access at the time), following by mailing lists
(Aroid-L dates to the early 1990s), followed by web-based
"forums", followed by Facebook and other social media. Who knows
what's next?

Mailing lists may actually be the crocodiles of the Internet
forum world, surviving with minimal changes through the evolution
and extinction of other, more transient species. My own opinion is
that's because (a) everyone has email, regardless of what other
fora they also use, and (b) the mailing list brings the posts to
you without you having to do anything. Web-based fora and social
media require at least some initiative to go visit the site or
start their app, which is why they nag you relentlessly to do so.

(Nice Schismatoglottis, Peter!)

Steve

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From: The Silent Seed <tylus.seklos at gmail.com> on 2018.08.07 at 17:13:54(23900)
Nicely put, Steve,

And yes, gorgeous Shismatoglottis. Haven't seen any in a while.

All the best, Jude

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From: a sunjian <asjbiotek at gmail.com> on 2018.08.07 at 17:29:36(23904)
FB is easier on the pics, but you gotta log on to it to check messages. Aroid-L is easy because it just drops into your inbox ;-)

I don't think people should exclusively use one media or another...for example, I'm a member of various email discussion groups and FB groups too.

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From: a sunjian <asjbiotek at gmail.com> on 2018.08.07 at 18:08:45(23906)
The one thing I don't like about aroid-L is the fact that because it's moderated messages do not immediately go out to the group. It's slightly annoying to have to wait, and it prevents better conversations as you don't get the smooth back and forth that you see in non-moderated email groups.

On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 12:37 PM, Steve Marak wrote:

What seems to happen is that people don't actually unsubscribe
from Aroid-L - they just stop posting. When enough people stop
posting, then someone will create a new forum using whatever the
current technology is, and everyone joins that because that's
where the action is, at least for a while. A lot of the community
is the same across all the different fora, because we don't want
to miss out. But we're all still here, and we will respond if
poked a bit, as the response to Jude's post shows.

Usenet groups were the first such gathering places of which I'm
aware (and it was mostly computer geeks on Usenet, because mostly
only we had access at the time), following by mailing lists
(Aroid-L dates to the early 1990s), followed by web-based
"forums", followed by Facebook and other social media. Who knows
what's next?

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From: Steve Marak <samarak at gizmoworks.com> on 2018.08.07 at 19:33:31(23907)
I absolutely agree. (Not to mention I'd enjoy a vacation from
doing that job ...)

There's a lot of history behind Aroid-L being moderated, most of
which doesn't apply now (controlling what went out under the
domain of the owners of the servers we were using, stamping out
flame wars, etc.). I did unmoderate Aroid-L for a while some years
back as an experiment and found very quickly that some of the spam
coming in would fool the listserver, which isn't that
sophisticated about modern email headers, into sending it out
under the names of real subscribers.

But there is now a much better spam wall on the server that runs
Aroid-L. I'll talk with my friend who owns it and see where the
spam wall sits in the flow and maybe run the experiment again.

Steve

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From: "Peter C. Boyce" <phymatarum at gmail.com> on 2018.08.08 at 00:58:49(23922)
Steve,

I think this would a very good thing to implement!

Pete

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