Philodendron squamiferum bristles?

From: Zach DuFran <zdufran at gmail.com> on 2018.08.14 at 18:47:35(23953) Jude, Ordinarily the pubescens are pretty long and prominent. The photos you've seen online are not tricks of photography. There is a plant called Philodendron Florida (possible hybrid of P. squamiferum) which has a similar leaf shape to Philodendron squamiferum and has rough petioles. Do you have photos of your plants in question? Zach HTML +More On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 1:05 PM The Silent Seed wrote: Is there some variation in P. squamiferum and its bristles? I have some plants that were sold as P. squamiferum, and the petioles closer to the leaves are red, and rough, like sandpaper, but I don't see actual bristly hairs (yet?) Do they develop over time? Or, is a super zoom kind of fancy shmancy camera being used to show the bristles clearly on google images? Best, Jude -- The Silent Seed Rare and Unusual plants from around the world. thesilentseed.com _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l --00000000000065a019057369a551-- --==============63986531195313671==

From: Zach DuFran <zdufran at gmail.com> on 2018.08.14 at 22:01:54(23967) Jude, That looks like a good match for Florida Beauty, which Steve Lucas discussed on his webpage: http://www.exoticrainforest.com/Philodendron_Florida_Beauty_%20pc.html Zach HTML +More On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 4:45 PM The Silent Seed wrote: Hi Zach, Thanks for your input! Florida / Florida Beauty doesn't have red petioles that I have seen. I'm including a couple pics - The bigger one is my pet, and the smaller one you can see the coloration much better. And last but not least, I got two variegated ones. Hope we can clear this up. Thanks! Jude On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 2:47 PM, Zach DuFran wrote: Jude, Ordinarily the pubescens are pretty long and prominent. The photos you've seen online are not tricks of photography. There is a plant called Philodendron Florida (possible hybrid of P. squamiferum) which has a similar leaf shape to Philodendron squamiferum and has rough petioles. Do you have photos of your plants in question? Zach On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 1:05 PM The Silent Seed wrote: Is there some variation in P. squamiferum and its bristles? I have some plants that were sold as P. squamiferum, and the petioles closer to the leaves are red, and rough, like sandpaper, but I don't see actual bristly hairs (yet?) Do they develop over time? Or, is a super zoom kind of fancy shmancy camera being used to show the bristles clearly on google images? Best, Jude -- The Silent Seed Rare and Unusual plants from around the world. thesilentseed.com _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l -- The Silent Seed Rare and Unusual plants from around the world. thesilentseed.com _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l --0000000000004db89305736c5c81-- --==============w91684036063464636==

From: The Silent Seed <tylus.seklos at gmail.com> on 2018.08.14 at 22:07:52(23968) Zach, Thank you for that. I also looked at his photo of P. squamiferum which looks exactly the same, without the variegation. (His photo shows the same sandpapery texture, versus hairs.) Hmmmm.... HTML +More On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 6:01 PM, Zach DuFran wrote: Jude, That looks like a good match for Florida Beauty, which Steve Lucas discussed on his webpage: http://www.exoticrainforest.com/Philodendron_Florida_Beauty_%20pc.html Zach On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 4:45 PM The Silent Seed wrote: Hi Zach, Thanks for your input! Florida / Florida Beauty doesn't have red petioles that I have seen. I'm including a couple pics - The bigger one is my pet, and the smaller one you can see the coloration much better. And last but not least, I got two variegated ones. Hope we can clear this up. Thanks! Jude On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 2:47 PM, Zach DuFran wrote: Jude, Ordinarily the pubescens are pretty long and prominent. The photos you've seen online are not tricks of photography. There is a plant called Philodendron Florida (possible hybrid of P. squamiferum) which has a similar leaf shape to Philodendron squamiferum and has rough petioles. Do you have photos of your plants in question? Zach On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 1:05 PM The Silent Seed wrote: Is there some variation in P. squamiferum and its bristles? I have some plants that were sold as P. squamiferum, and the petioles closer to the leaves are red, and rough, like sandpaper, but I don't see actual bristly hairs (yet?) Do they develop over time? Or, is a super zoom kind of fancy shmancy camera being used to show the bristles clearly on google images? Best, Jude -- The Silent Seed Rare and Unusual plants from around the world. thesilentseed.com _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l -- The Silent Seed Rare and Unusual plants from around the world. thesilentseed.com _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l -- The Silent Seed Rare and Unusual plants from around the world. thesilentseed.com --000000000000feb59205736c705e-- --==============81945323005344577==

From: "Ertelt, Jonathan B" <jonathan.ertelt at Vanderbilt.Edu> on 2018.08.14 at 22:19:28(23969) Jude - if you scroll down on Steve’s page on P. squamiferum, his description of the petiole is pretty precise, and matches very well with two images a bit further down the page on the right side. Though there may be some variation on the length of these “hairs,” my sense from seeing this species numerous times is that they’re most always present as hairs rather than anything I would describe as nubs or sandpaper. Some pictures might capture this better than others, but imho they’re a pretty distinctive character of this species – not that other species don’t have similar pubescence on the petioles, but P. squamiferum most always does have it. Good Growing! Jonathan HTML +More From: on behalf of The Silent Seed Reply-To: Discussion of aroids Date: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 at 5:08 PM To: Discussion of aroids Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Philodendron squamiferum bristles? Zach, Thank you for that. I also looked at his photo of P. squamiferum which looks exactly the same, without the variegation. (His photo shows the same sandpapery texture, versus hairs.) Hmmmm.... On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 6:01 PM, Zach DuFran wrote: Jude, That looks like a good match for Florida Beauty, which Steve Lucas discussed on his webpage: http://www.exoticrainforest.com/Philodendron_Florida_Beauty_%20pc.html Zach On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 4:45 PM The Silent Seed wrote: Hi Zach, Thanks for your input! Florida / Florida Beauty doesn't have red petioles that I have seen. I'm including a couple pics - The bigger one is my pet, and the smaller one you can see the coloration much better. And last but not least, I got two variegated ones. Hope we can clear this up. Thanks! Jude On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 2:47 PM, Zach DuFran wrote: Jude, Ordinarily the pubescens are pretty long and prominent. The photos you've seen online are not tricks of photography. There is a plant called Philodendron Florida (possible hybrid of P. squamiferum) which has a similar leaf shape to Philodendron squamiferum and has rough petioles. Do you have photos of your plants in question? Zach On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 1:05 PM The Silent Seed wrote: Is there some variation in P. squamiferum and its bristles? I have some plants that were sold as P. squamiferum, and the petioles closer to the leaves are red, and rough, like sandpaper, but I don't see actual bristly hairs (yet?) Do they develop over time? Or, is a super zoom kind of fancy shmancy camera being used to show the bristles clearly on google images? Best, Jude -- The Silent Seed Rare and Unusual plants from around the world. thesilentseed.com _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l -- The Silent Seed Rare and Unusual plants from around the world. thesilentseed.com _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l -- The Silent Seed Rare and Unusual plants from around the world. thesilentseed.com

From: The Silent Seed <tylus.seklos at gmail.com> on 2018.08.14 at 19:01:24(23973) Hi Zach, Thanks for your input! Florida / Florida Beauty doesn't have red petioles that I have seen. I'm including a couple pics - The bigger one is my pet, and the smaller one you can see the coloration much better. And last but not least, I got two variegated ones. Hope we can clear this up. Thanks! Jude HTML +More On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 2:47 PM, Zach DuFran wrote: Jude, Ordinarily the pubescens are pretty long and prominent. The photos you've seen online are not tricks of photography. There is a plant called Philodendron Florida (possible hybrid of P. squamiferum) which has a similar leaf shape to Philodendron squamiferum and has rough petioles. Do you have photos of your plants in question? Zach On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 1:05 PM The Silent Seed wrote: Is there some variation in P. squamiferum and its bristles? I have some plants that were sold as P. squamiferum, and the petioles closer to the leaves are red, and rough, like sandpaper, but I don't see actual bristly hairs (yet?) Do they develop over time? Or, is a super zoom kind of fancy shmancy camera being used to show the bristles clearly on google images? Best, Jude -- The Silent Seed Rare and Unusual plants from around the world. thesilentseed.com _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l -- The Silent Seed Rare and Unusual plants from around the world. thesilentseed.com --0000000000002482ce057369d6a6-- --0000000000002482d1057369d6a8

From: Zach DuFran <zdufran at gmail.com> on 2018.08.15 at 02:36:17(23975) Jude, I don’t see any photos on Steve’s site of a squamiferum with sandpapery petioles. Which photo are you referring to? Zach HTML +More On Aug 14, 2018, at 5:07 PM, The Silent Seed wrote: Zach, Thank you for that. I also looked at his photo of P. squamiferum which looks exactly the same, without the variegation. (His photo shows the same sandpapery texture, versus hairs.) Hmmmm.... On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 6:01 PM, Zach DuFran wrote: Jude, That looks like a good match for Florida Beauty, which Steve Lucas discussed on his webpage: http://www.exoticrainforest.com/Philodendron_Florida_Beauty_%20pc.html Zach On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 4:45 PM The Silent Seed wrote: Hi Zach, Thanks for your input! Florida / Florida Beauty doesn't have red petioles that I have seen. I'm including a couple pics - The bigger one is my pet, and the smaller one you can see the coloration much better. And last but not least, I got two variegated ones. Hope we can clear this up. Thanks! Jude On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 2:47 PM, Zach DuFran wrote: Jude, Ordinarily the pubescens are pretty long and prominent. The photos you've seen online are not tricks of photography. There is a plant called Philodendron Florida (possible hybrid of P. squamiferum) which has a similar leaf shape to Philodendron squamiferum and has rough petioles. Do you have photos of your plants in question? Zach On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 1:05 PM The Silent Seed wrote: Is there some variation in P. squamiferum and its bristles? I have some plants that were sold as P. squamiferum, and the petioles closer to the leaves are red, and rough, like sandpaper, but I don't see actual bristly hairs (yet?) Do they develop over time? Or, is a super zoom kind of fancy shmancy camera being used to show the bristles clearly on google images? Best, Jude -- The Silent Seed Rare and Unusual plants from around the world. thesilentseed.com _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l -- The Silent Seed Rare and Unusual plants from around the world. thesilentseed.com _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l -- The Silent Seed Rare and Unusual plants from around the world. thesilentseed.com _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l --Apple-Mail-A99E291D-BFE4-45DE-ACC7-81D6DEB7B4A0-- --==============299774233822134594==

From: The Silent Seed <tylus.seklos at gmail.com> on 2018.08.15 at 02:47:47(23978) Hi Zach, In the link - showing the variegated Florida Beauty, if you scroll down to a set of several pictures with P. squamiferum in the upper left corner - that's the one I'm referring to. Those look like red petioles, with a more sandpapery texture? HTML +More On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 10:36 PM, Zach DuFran wrote: Jude, I don’t see any photos on Steve’s site of a squamiferum with sandpapery petioles. Which photo are you referring to? Zach On Aug 14, 2018, at 5:07 PM, The Silent Seed wrote: Zach, Thank you for that. I also looked at his photo of P. squamiferum which looks exactly the same, without the variegation. (His photo shows the same sandpapery texture, versus hairs.) Hmmmm.... On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 6:01 PM, Zach DuFran wrote: Jude, That looks like a good match for Florida Beauty, which Steve Lucas discussed on his webpage: http://www.exoticrainforest.com/Philodendron_Florida_Beauty_%20pc.html Zach On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 4:45 PM The Silent Seed wrote: Hi Zach, Thanks for your input! Florida / Florida Beauty doesn't have red petioles that I have seen. I'm including a couple pics - The bigger one is my pet, and the smaller one you can see the coloration much better. And last but not least, I got two variegated ones. Hope we can clear this up. Thanks! Jude On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 2:47 PM, Zach DuFran wrote: Jude, Ordinarily the pubescens are pretty long and prominent. The photos you've seen online are not tricks of photography. There is a plant called Philodendron Florida (possible hybrid of P. squamiferum) which has a similar leaf shape to Philodendron squamiferum and has rough petioles. Do you have photos of your plants in question? Zach On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 1:05 PM The Silent Seed wrote: Is there some variation in P. squamiferum and its bristles? I have some plants that were sold as P. squamiferum, and the petioles closer to the leaves are red, and rough, like sandpaper, but I don't see actual bristly hairs (yet?) Do they develop over time? Or, is a super zoom kind of fancy shmancy camera being used to show the bristles clearly on google images? Best, Jude -- The Silent Seed Rare and Unusual plants from around the world. thesilentseed.com _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l -- The Silent Seed Rare and Unusual plants from around the world. thesilentseed.com _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l -- The Silent Seed Rare and Unusual plants from around the world. thesilentseed.com _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l -- The Silent Seed Rare and Unusual plants from around the world. thesilentseed.com --0000000000001110c30573705a24-- --==============d21151481023421312==

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