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  Amydrium zippelianum - two forms ?
From: The Silent Seed <tylus.seklos at gmail.com> on 2019.08.12 at 14:37:06(24211)

I know Amydrium zipp to have long, slender leaves, and was very surprised to receive a plant from Tropiflora that had fat / wide / broad leaves. The stem is clearly from older growth, but the leaves are so different.

Any insights? Two forms? Something else?

Included is a picture of the plant from Tropiflora. (Now that I recall, maybe 5 or 6 years ago, I had bought one from Tropiflora, which had the usual skinny leaves.)

Best, Jude

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The Silent Seed

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From: "Taylor H." <taylorholzer at yahoo.com> on 2019.08.12 at 17:05:12(24212)
Labeled wrong

That’s an Anthurium

On Aug 12, 2019, at 5:37 PM, The Silent Seed wrote:

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From: Peter Boyce <phymatarum at gmail.com> on 2019.08.12 at 19:45:59(24213)
Jude,

There are a few different morphological expressions of Amydrium zippelianum other than the long slender one with which most people are familiar.

Peter

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From: The Silent Seed <tylus.seklos at gmail.com> on 2019.08.12 at 20:03:04(24214)
Interesting - never knew this - I'm really digging the two different forms.

Thank you, Peter. I appreciate it.

On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 10:53 PM Peter Boyce wrote:

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From: Peter Boyce <phymatarum at gmail.com> on 2019.08.12 at 20:11:23(24215)
Jude

There are several synonyms for this species (see below) which gives some indication that in the wild variation is sufficient to have at least in the past persuaded botanists to publish novelties.

Amydrium magnificum (Engl.) Nicolson

Epipremnum asperatum Engl.

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From: The Silent Seed <tylus.seklos at gmail.com> on 2019.08.12 at 20:16:20(24216)
Peter,

That's quite a laundry list for a plant! Thank you for sharing.

And Taylor has just offered that this isn't even an Amydrium after all. Life sure

would be much more boring without aroids on so many different levels huh?

Thanks, Jude

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From: The Silent Seed <tylus.seklos at gmail.com> on 2019.08.12 at 20:14:54(24217)
You're kidding me?

May I ask how you picked that up, so I can figure out how to approach Tropiflora about this?

And, any idea on ID?

Many thanks, Jude

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From: "Taylor H." <taylorholzer at yahoo.com> on 2019.08.13 at 08:26:07(24218)
It’s likely Anthurium pentaphyllum.

The leaf structure doesn’t match Amydrium at all.

The smooth stem matches up to Anthurium pentaphyllum too.

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From: The Silent Seed <tylus.seklos at gmail.com> on 2019.08.13 at 09:49:38(24219)
Thank you, Taylor. Much appreciated!

On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 11:29 AM Taylor H. wrote:

It’s likely Anthurium pentaphyllum.

The leaf structure doesn’t match Amydrium at all.

The smooth stem matches up to Anthurium pentaphyllum too.

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From: Russ <bluesea14808 at yahoo.com> on 2019.08.13 at 11:47:10(24220)

Jude, like Taylor, my first impression when I saw your pic was anthurium, one of the vining types.

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 11:25 PM, The Silent Seed

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From: The Silent Seed <tylus.seklos at gmail.com> on 2019.08.13 at 12:47:14(24221)
Thank you very much for your insights. I have contacted Tropiflora to see what options are available. I do not want an Anthurium.

I hope everybody has been having a good summer thus far.

Jude

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