Philo cordatum vs hederaceum? And P. scandens ?

From: The Silent Seed <tylus.seklos at gmail.com> on 2019.09.18 at 18:36:43(24237) Could somebody clarify these two for me? I see, for example, "Brasil" being offered under both names. Are they one and the same? Another confusing one to me is Philo. hederaceum / scandens 'micans.' Are P. scandens, hederaceum, and cordatum the same? If not, how do I determine which cultivars go with which species? Thank you! Jude -- The Silent Seed HTML +More Rare and Unusual plants from around the world. thesilentseed.com --0000000000008ab2600592d8203d-- --============== 19611683504731481==

From: Tom Croat <Thomas.Croat at mobot.org> on 2019.09.18 at 20:19:26(24238) Dear Jude: Philodendron hederaceum is the new name for plants previously P. scandens and P. micans but not P. cordatum. Curiously the name P. hederaceum was an old name previously erroneously used for what we now call P. jacquinii Schott, a strange plant in a group all its own. Tom HTML +More From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of The Silent Seed Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 1:37 PM To: Discussion of aroids Subject: [Aroid-l] Philo cordatum vs hederaceum? And P. scandens ? Could somebody clarify these two for me? I see, for example, "Brasil" being offered under both names. Are they one and the same? Another confusing one to me is Philo. hederaceum / scandens 'micans.' Are P. scandens, hederaceum, and cordatum the same? If not, how do I determine which cultivars go with which species? Thank you! Jude -- The Silent Seed Rare and Unusual plants from around the world. thesilentseed.com

From: The Silent Seed <tylus.seklos at gmail.com> on 2019.09.18 at 20:38:06(24239) Thank you, very much, Tom. This is most helpful! So, the plants called Brasil, Rio (Silver Stripe,) Gabby and so forth - are these P. hederaceum, or P. cordatum varieties? (Based on leaf size and shape, I'm guessing P. hederaceum?) Many thanks, Jude HTML +More On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 4:35 PM Tom Croat wrote: Dear Jude: Philodendron hederaceum is the new name for plants previously P. scandens and P. micans but not P. cordatum. Curiously the name P. hederaceum was an old name previously erroneously used for what we now call P. jacquinii Schott, a strange plant in a group all its own. Tom From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of The Silent Seed Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 1:37 PM To: Discussion of aroids Subject: [Aroid-l] Philo cordatum vs hederaceum? And P. scandens ? Could somebody clarify these two for me? I see, for example, "Brasil" being offered under both names. Are they one and the same? Another confusing one to me is Philo. hederaceum / scandens 'micans.' Are P. scandens, hederaceum, and cordatum the same? If not, how do I determine which cultivars go with which species? Thank you! Jude -- The Silent Seed Rare and Unusual plants from around the world. thesilentseed.com _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l -- The Silent Seed Rare and Unusual plants from around the world. thesilentseed.com --000000000000b18c070592d9d20a-- --==============541931873651293267==

From: Russ <bluesea14808 at yahoo.com> on 2019.09.22 at 15:52:58(24240) Jude, all those cultivars you mentioned are hederaceum, not cordatum, which is a different species entirely. If I'm not mistaken, cordatum is the formal species name given to the old P. sp. 'Angra Dos Reis'. Russ HTML +More Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 4:48 PM, The Silent Seed wrote: _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l ------=_Part_7430403_857753879.1569167578393-- --=============="64497829309907298==

From: The Silent Seed <tylus.seklos at gmail.com> on 2019.09.22 at 19:29:57(24241) Thank you, Russ! Thanks for helping me make sure I have my names straight! Best, Jude On Sun, Sep 22, 2019 at 12:03 PM Russ wrote: HTML +More Jude, all those cultivars you mentioned are hederaceum, not cordatum, which is a different species entirely. If I'm not mistaken, cordatum is the formal species name given to the old P. sp. 'Angra Dos Reis'. Russ Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 4:48 PM, The Silent Seed wrote: _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l -- The Silent Seed Rare and Unusual plants from around the world. thesilentseed.com --0000000000004a341405932956da-- --==============52120351274087017==

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