Pale Green Gonatopus

From: Don Burns <burns at mobot.org> on 1998.05.02 at 22:01:27(2071) Any Gonatopus experts out there? I have two unidentified plants, both of which went dormant in the past three weeks, that are a solid pale green. Petiole and leaf are identical in color. Tubers are light tan colored, quite smooth - no nodules or roughness of any kind. Root systems grow from the top side of the tuber only. No evidence of any root growth from sides or bottom of the tuber. No photos available at the moment. I have G. boivinii and G. angustus. These plants resemble neither. Don +More Don Burns Plantation, FL USA Zone 10b

From: plantnut at shadow.net (Dewey Fisk) on 1998.05.03 at 00:29:24(2072) Try Gonatopus rhizomateous. And, you probably got them from me... Dewey +More >Any Gonatopus experts out there? I have two unidentified plants, both of >which went dormant in the past three weeks, that are a solid pale green. >Petiole and leaf are identical in color. Tubers are light tan colored, >quite smooth - no nodules or roughness of any kind. Root systems grow >from the top side of the tuber only. No evidence of any root growth from >sides or bottom of the tuber. No photos available at the moment. > >I have G. boivinii and G. angustus. These plants resemble neither. > >Don > > > >Don Burns Plantation, FL USA Zone 10b Dewey E. Fisk, Plant Nut THE PHILODENDRON PHREAQUE Your Source for Tropical Araceae

From: Don Burns <burns at mobot.org> on 1998.05.03 at 00:42:21(2074) On Sat, 2 May 1998, Dewey Fisk wrote: > Try Gonatopus rhizomateous. And, you probably got them from me... > Dewey > +More Dewey, These came from either you or Monroe Birdsey, or both of you. Until now I have not heard anyone refer to a species name, only "green Gonatopus". Could they be clavatus or marattioides? I have not seen descriptions of any of these three. Don Don Burns Plantation, FL USA Zone 10b

From: "Julius Boos" <ju-bo at email.msn.com> on 1998.05.03 at 14:42:17(2075) Dear Don, Does the pale green Gonatopus look like a common G. boivinii except for the color? There is an all- green "boiviini" that has been around for a while, I have seen it at Dewey`s, I believe at Monroe`s, and here locally in WPB. I have never had a "for sure" I.D. on it, but to me it looks like a color morph of the common G. boivinii. Cheers, Julius +More ju-bo@msn.com >Any Gonatopus experts out there? I have two unidentified plants, both of which went dormant in the past three weeks, that are a solid pale green. Petiole and leaf are identical in color. Tubers are light tan colored, quite smooth - no nodules or roughness of any kind. Root systems grow from the top side of the tuber only. No evidence of any root growth from sides or bottom of the tuber. No photos available at the moment. I have G. boivinii and G. angustus. These plants resemble neither. Don< Don Burns Plantation, FL USA Zone 10b

From: Wilbert Hetterscheid <hetter at vkc.nl> on 1998.05.04 at 12:54:12(2082) Dear Don, Just a guess when you answer this question because I didn't get the whole picture: does the plant have a flattened tuber like "regular" boivinii and a similarly large leaf? If so, it IS boivinii. There is a green-petioled form of boivinii. We have it growing like hell in Leiden and it is really not essentially different from boivinii with the variegated petioles. Of course, if you are describing a miniature species then it isn't boivinii. Cheers, Wilbert +More >

From: Don Burns <burns at mobot.org> on 1998.05.04 at 13:02:52(2083) Wilbert, Tuber is similar to G. boivini and leaf is similarly large. But leaf segments are much larger and fewer in number than this on boivinii. Don +More > Just a guess when you answer this question because I didn't get the > whole picture: does the plant have a flattened tuber like "regular" > boivinii and a similarly large leaf? If so, it IS boivinii. There is a > green-petioled form of boivinii. We have it growing like hell in Leiden > and it is really not essentially different from boivinii with the > variegated petioles. Of course, if you are describing a miniature > species then it isn't boivinii. > > Cheers, > Wilbert > > > > > Don Burns Plantation, FL USA Zone 10b

From: Steve Marak <samarak at arachne.uark.edu> on 1998.05.05 at 14:34:26(2087) Don, Wilbert, and others, Back from St. Louis and with a few (rare) free moments ... I have a Gonatopus that sounds very similar to Don's - all green (i.e., petiole and leaflets), looks like it will reach about the same ultimate size as my largest "normal" G. boivinii but has somewhat fewer, though larger, leaflets. I don't recall the tuber's appearance; my Gonatopus seem to need (and therefore get) very little attention. My plant came from Phil Mueller, in one of the last shipments he sent before he went sailing. As he was pretty rushed, it was a small tuber labeled only "green gonatopus". It has grown nicely, and might well flower at next emergence. Since this topic arose, I've been trying to remember our conversations about it without much success. I don't think he knew whether it was a boivinii or something different, nor do I recall where he got it. I haven't tried propagating it - I assume it would be as easy to root leaflets as the the usual one. Steve +More -- Steve Marak -- samarak@arachne.uark.edu

From: Wilbert Hetterscheid <hetter at vkc.nl> on 1998.05.05 at 15:07:24(2089) Dear Don, Well, this sounds a bit strange indeed. To my knowledge there are no Gonatopus species as large as boivinii nor with a similar tuber. Maybe you should try and get a scanned picture on the web somewhere. Cheers, Wilbert +More > Wilbert, > > Tuber is similar to G. boivini and leaf is similarly large. But leaf > segments are much larger and fewer in number than this on boivinii. > > Don > >

From: Don Burns <burns at mobot.org> on 1998.05.05 at 15:30:28(2091) Steve's message on this subject woke up my memory. One of my two green Gonatopus came from Phil, the other from Dewey. They appear to be identical plants. One of them during last season was as tall as, or taller than G. Boivinii. But neither have flowered. In contrast G. boivinii has flowered in years when the petioles were much shorter. Furthermore, the green plants stayed awake several months longer than boivinii. So to this casual observer boivinii and the "green" plant are quite different I don't have a photo to post but will make sure that I get a picture once these tubers awaken this summer. Hopefully we will have inflorescences to look at. Don +More Don Burns Plantation, FL USA Zone 10b

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