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  Alocasia
From: alistair_hay_at_po-sydney at rbgsyd.gov.au on 1998.06.29 at 21:37:49(2382)
Dear all,

I am currently (FINALLY!) finishing off taxonomic revisions of
Alocasia in West Malesia (= Peninsular Malaysia, Sumatra, Borneo,
Java) and the Philippines.

In order to make the revisions relevant to a wide range of people, I
would like to check the extent to which plants of this genus in
cultivation (BUT NOT HORTICULTURAL HYBRIDS) can be fitted into my
classification, and whether there are plants of any further
undescribed species in cultivated collections.

If you have Alocasias growing in your collections which

1. you think are or may be of new species AND

2. you have RELIABLE WILD PROVENANCE DATA for (at least to island or
state - e.g. Java, Luzon, Sabah, Sarawak, Kalimantan, Aceh etc. but
preferably more detailed than that)

please airmail me preserved material of them (or e-mail a photo
first), and I will attempt to identify them for you. If there is a
cultivar name (registered or unofficial) being used for the plant in
question, please let me know what it is.

Ideally include a dried leaf, a photograph and an inflorescence that
has been steeped in 70% alcohol or FAA (or a dried one). However, a
leaf will often be adequate.

My mailing address is Royal Botanic Gardens Sydney, Mrs Maquaries
Road, Sydney 2000, Australia. We will deal with Australian quarantine
issues this end. You do not need to do anything except ensure that
there are no live insects in the specimen.

All assistance will, of course, be fully acknowledged in the papers.

Looking forward to hearing from you

Alistair Hay

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From: GeoffAroid at aol.com on 2000.04.26 at 14:51:58(4425)
I have now posted 2 pics of my mystery Alocasia at:
http://members.aol.com/Geoffaroid/Alocasia1.jpg and .......Alocasia2.jpg

replies seem to agree that this is a var of micholitziana except the leaves
on my plant are quite glossy (see pic).....any further suggestions? Thanks to
those requesting seeds of the Anthuriums, I will start packing them up over
the weekend.

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From: Pugturd at aol.com on 2000.04.26 at 15:15:53(4434)
I tell you I think it is the Alocasia Sarian. I have one it looks just like
the picture. I think i have a picture on my site in gallery 6 and 8. thanks

From: plantnut at macconnect.com (plantnut) on 2000.04.26 at 17:33:30(4437)
Geoffrey,
What you have is a new hybrid of A. zebrina and .. I think micholitziana
. The name of the hyrid is Alocasia x "White Knight"
Dewey

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From: Pugturd at aol.com on 2000.04.27 at 15:16:57(4446)
Hello this is Brian Williams. I still think it is an Alocasia Sarian. Mainly
because the leafs point up and not down. The Alocasia white night leafs point
downward. I have both and the picture looks to me to be the Sarian. I hope
this helps put a name to it. I will have to post some pictures of mine soon.
THANKS

From: Krzysztof Kozminski kk at netgate.net> on 2000.04.27 at 15:23:35(4449)
On Wed, 26 Apr 2000, plantnut wrote:

> Geoffrey, What you have is a new hybrid of A. zebrina and .. I think
> micholitziana. The name of the hyrid is Alocasia x "White Knight"
>
> >I have now posted 2 pics of my mystery Alocasia at:
> >http://members.aol.com/Geoffaroid/Alocasia1.jpg and .......Alocasia2.jpg

Here's another vote for 'White Knight'. Looks very much like the one I
have.

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From: Denis denis at skg.com> on 2000.04.27 at 15:34:44(4456)
Looks like a plant that I was growing called Alocasia Sarian, it came to
me by way of Agristarts as tissue cultured liners. Very upright, prefers
bright filtered light, 40% shade.

Denis at Silver Krome Gardens
Homestead Florida

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From: Pugturd at aol.com on 2000.04.27 at 16:42:25(4459)
Ok well here is what I want to know. Does the leaf tip point up or down??
Here is a picture of the white night from agri starts.

Agri-Starts

And here is a picture of sarian from my website.
http://www.topcities.com/Business/brianw/gh3.jpg

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From: GeoffAroid at aol.com on 2000.04.28 at 17:57:25(4470)
In a message dated 28/4/00 12:42:48 am, Pugturd@aol.com writes:

<< Ok well here is what I want to know. Does the leaf tip point up or down??
Here is a picture of the white night from agri starts. >>

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From: SelbyHort at aol.com on 2000.05.02 at 14:58:19(4514)
This is response to Denis Rotoante's message about the mystery Alocasia shown
by Geoff. I think we must now know what this is.

We have one of these Alocasia Sarian plants from Denis and it is now growing
in a seven gallon pot and is about 4-5 feet tall, a magnificent thing. The
leaves are very thick, almost succulent, and matte on the upper surface, not
velvety or glossy. Petioles are patterned, somewhat spreading, with blades
erect.

Does anyone have any information about the source of this plant? I would
guess it is a hybrid, but what (who) is the source and does anyone know about
the parents of this hybrid?

Donna Atwood
Selby Gardens

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From: BSuchy at t-online.de (Berthold Suchy) on 2003.04.28 at 08:26:23(10128)
Dear All,

I'am looking for 3 Species of Alocasia.

Alocasia portei; Alocasia portadora and Alocasia robusta.

Which of you know a place, where I can buy seeds or small plants of this
species ?

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From: "Dany Hervelle" bs246466 at skynet.be> on 2003.04.28 at 13:25:05(10131)
Hi Berthold and list

I think that most of the plants you want are easily avalable in local
grower.Portodora is a cross between a portei and a odora,a portei is one of
the massive sp of the genus and is easily avalable.The more difficult to
find is alocasia robusta but this one is sometime avalable in malaysia
tropical.From which country are you?
Best regards to all

Dany

From: "Dany Hervelle" bs246466 at skynet.be> on 2003.04.29 at 12:02:47(10140)
Hi Berthold and friends

Alocasia portei is a species that is commun in lot of nurserys,like the
hybrid a x portodora (portei x odora)
is.Alocasia robusta is a more difficult plant to find but malaysi tropicals
have them in the list
Best regards to all

Dany

From: "Steve Lucas Exotic Rainforest" <steve at exoticrainforest.com> on 2007.03.27 at 19:12:19(15497)
I recieved another alocasia photo from Leland Miyano in
Hawaii with a request for help with an ID.

The plant appears to me to be similar to the Alocasia
scalprum photo I posted earlier on Leland's behalf that Pete and others
identified. He tells me this plant is very different from
the one identified as A. scalprum. Leland says this
one is glossy with a much smoother surface and is light blue-grey in
color.Since several said A. scalprum was
highly variable is this a variation of that species or something
different?

Thanks for all the help!

Steve Lucas

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From: "Steve Lucas Exotic Rainforest" <steve at exoticrainforest.com> on 2007.03.28 at 08:33:49(15499)
Both Peter and Alistair have told me this is likely Alocasia heterophyllum or something closely related
from the Phillipines.

Thanks!

Steve Lucas

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From: "alocasia" <bs246466 at skynet.be> on 2007.03.28 at 09:57:10(15503)
A scalprum have many variation in leaves...but your
plant see for me more an heterophylla variety.A heterophylla is also a very
variable species...From bright blue green leaves to much commun
simple green

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From: "Alistair Hay" <ajmhay at hotmail.com> on 2007.03.28 at 17:47:08(15507)
That's what I thought too!

A scalprum have many variation in leaves...but your plant see for me more an heterophylla variety.A heterophylla is also a very variable species...From bright blue green leaves to much commun simple green

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From: "Steve Lucas Exotic Rainforest" <steve at exoticrainforest.com> on 2007.03.29 at 08:49:30(15513)
Thanks guys!

Steve Lucas

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From: "Christopher Rogers" <crogers at ecoanalysts.com> on 2009.02.03 at 11:20:52(19035)
Howdy!

I am looking for Hay’s threepapers revising the genus Alocasia. Does anyone have the citations? Or maybe.pdf copies?

Thank you in advance,

Christopher

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From: ExoticRainforest <Steve at ExoticRainforest.com> on 2009.02.03 at 16:17:36(19040)
Christopher, drop me a note and I'llgive you Alistair's email address.

Steve

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From: <ju-bo at msn.com> on 2009.02.04 at 03:14:14(19048)
Dear Christopher,

These (below) may be what you are searching for, I pulled them from Deni Bown`s book.  there are mentions of several other papers by Hay on the genus, descriptions of single new species of Alocasia.  I hope these help!

Hay, A. 1999a.  The Genus Alocasia (Araceae-Colocasieae) in the Philippines.  Gardens` Bullitin Singapore 51:  1-41.
Hay, A. , and R.  Wise.  1991.  The Genus Alocasia (Araceae) in Australasia.  Blumea 35: 499-545.
Hay, A.1998a.  The Genus Alocasia (Araceae-Colocasieae) in West Malesia and Sulawesi.  Gardens` Bullitin Singapore 50 (1):  1-4.

The Best,

Julius

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From: Peter Boyce <phymatarum at googlemail.com> on 2009.02.05 at 00:42:20(19055)
Hi Christopher,

Further to Julius' email, the full listing for Hay & co-workers is:

Hay, A. & R. Wise. 1991. The genus Alocasia (Araceae) in Australasia. Blume a
35: 499 -- 545

Hay, A. 1994. Alocasia simonsiana - a new species of Araceae from New
Guinea. Blumea 38: 331 -- 333

Hay, A., P.C. Boyce & K.M. Wong 1997. Alocasia melo. Bot. Mag., n.s. 14(2):
82 – 86, pl. 315

Hay, A. 1998. The genus Alocasia (Araceae-Colocasieae) in West Malesia and
Sulawesi. Gardens’ Bull. Singapore 50: 221 – 334

Hay, A. 1999. The genus Alocasia (Araceae-Colocasieae) in the Philippines.
Gardens’ Bull. Singapore 51: 1 -- 41

Hay, A. 2000. Alocasia nebula. Bot. Mag., n.s. 17(1): 14 -- 18, pl. 381

Yuzammi & A. Hay 1998. Alocasia suhirmaniana (Araceae-Colocasieae): a
spectacular new aroid from Sulawesi, Indonesia. Telopea 7(4): 303 -- 306

pdf's are available on line for Yuzammi & Hay (1998), Hay, Boyce & Wong
(1997).

Very best

Peter

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From: "Christopher Rogers" <crogers at ecoanalysts.com> on 2009.02.05 at 09:26:46(19056)
Thanks to all who replied!!

D. Christopher Rogers

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From: <ju-bo at msn.com> on 2009.02.05 at 14:34:15(19057)
Thanks, Pete!

The Best,

Julius

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