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Amorpholphallus titanum pollen request
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From: Scott Hyndman hyndman at aroid.org> on 2002.04.22 at 02:51:53(8584)
Dear All,
Please note the request below from Greg Redwood of Kew for pollen to
pollinate their soon to bloom Titan Arum. For your information, I think
that this may be the reblooming of the tuber that received all of the
interesting publicity back in 1996 per the URL at
http://www.kew.org.uk/kewscientist/ks_oct96/titan.html featuring our own
Peter Boyce during his tenure there. Even if it is the not the same, it
will truly be an enormous inflorescence judging by the weight of the tuber!
There were so many Amorphophallus titanum bloomings here in the US and else
where last year that it was hard to keep up with all of them. Hopefully,
someone can help Greg out with some stored pollen, or perhaps someone knows
of a possible contact for fresh pollen. Please contact Greg directly at
your earliest convenience. Also, please feel free to share firsthand
experience with the tricky technology and art of pollinating these
fascinating plants as not all hand pollination attempts have been
successful.
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I hope that Greg can please keep us up-to-date with the status of Kew's
Titan Arum.
Best regards, Scott
-------------
Scott Hyndman, President
International Aroid Society
Homepage: http://www.aroid.org/
Vero Beach, Florida, USA
USDA Hardiness Zone 10a
E-mail: hyndman@aroid.org
----------------------------------------------
Organization: Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew
Reply-To: G.Redwood@rbgkew.org.uk
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 16:08:36 +0000
To: hyndman@aroid.org
Subject: amorpholphallus titanum pollen
Dear Scott,
I found your web page whilst searching for possible sources of
pollen for Amorphophallus titanum. We have a very large tuber (11
stone) which will open its flower in approximately 4 weeks. I am
very keen to pollinate this and am therefor trying to find someone
who has stored some pollen for this purpose. If you, or anyone you
know, has stored some pollen from a previous flowering, we would
be very grateful to recieve some. We would, of course, return the
favour when ours opens.
Many thanks for your time,
Greg Redwood
Head of Great Glasshouses & Training Section
Horticulture & Public Education Department
Royal Botanic Gardens,
Kew,
Richmond
Surrey
TW9 3AB
UNITED KINGDOM
Phone +44-(0)20 8332-5589
Mobile +44-(0)7956 360165
Fax +44-(0)20 8332-5524
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From: "Wilbert Hetterscheid" hetter at worldonline.nl> on 2002.04.22 at 15:36:16(8592)
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! Could anyone tell me what 11
stones measures up to??????? Gads, I thought you USA'ers were a pain in
converting to Celsius but this one takes the cake....... Stones, can you
believe it? My crusade for the decimal/metric system on this group obviously
is futile........and I have tried SOOOOOOOOOOO hard. This is not going to
work by a mile (did I say "mile"?????).
Lord S. Tony Phalloids
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> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: aroid-l@mobot.org [mailto:aroid-l@mobot.org]Namens Scott Hyndman
> Verzonden: maandag 22 april 2002 4:50
> Aan: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L
> Onderwerp: FW: Amorpholphallus titanum pollen request
>
>
> Dear All,
>
> Please note the request below from Greg Redwood of Kew for pollen to
> pollinate their soon to bloom Titan Arum. For your
> information, I think
> that this may be the reblooming of the tuber that received all of the
> interesting publicity back in 1996 per the URL at
> http://www.kew.org.uk/kewscientist/ks_oct96/titan.html
> featuring our own
> Peter Boyce during his tenure there. Even if it is the not
> the same, it
> will truly be an enormous inflorescence judging by the weight
> of the tuber!
>
> There were so many Amorphophallus titanum bloomings here in
> the US and else
> where last year that it was hard to keep up with all of them.
> Hopefully,
> someone can help Greg out with some stored pollen, or perhaps
> someone knows
> of a possible contact for fresh pollen. Please contact Greg
> directly at
> your earliest convenience. Also, please feel free to share firsthand
> experience with the tricky technology and art of pollinating these
> fascinating plants as not all hand pollination attempts have been
> successful.
>
> I hope that Greg can please keep us up-to-date with the
> status of Kew's
> Titan Arum.
>
> Best regards, Scott
>
> -------------
> Scott Hyndman, President
> International Aroid Society
> Homepage: http://www.aroid.org/
> Vero Beach, Florida, USA
> USDA Hardiness Zone 10a
> E-mail: hyndman@aroid.org
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------
> From: "Greg Redwood"
> Organization: Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew
> Reply-To: G.Redwood@rbgkew.org.uk
> Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 16:08:36 +0000
> To: hyndman@aroid.org
> Subject: amorpholphallus titanum pollen
>
> Dear Scott,
>
> I found your web page whilst searching for possible sources of
> pollen for Amorphophallus titanum. We have a very large tuber (11
> stone) which will open its flower in approximately 4 weeks. I am
> very keen to pollinate this and am therefor trying to find someone
> who has stored some pollen for this purpose. If you, or anyone you
> know, has stored some pollen from a previous flowering, we would
> be very grateful to recieve some. We would, of course, return the
> favour when ours opens.
>
> Many thanks for your time,
>
> Greg Redwood
> Head of Great Glasshouses & Training Section
> Horticulture & Public Education Department
> Royal Botanic Gardens,
> Kew,
> Richmond
> Surrey
> TW9 3AB
> UNITED KINGDOM
> Phone +44-(0)20 8332-5589
> Mobile +44-(0)7956 360165
> Fax +44-(0)20 8332-5524
>
>
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From: "Julius Boos" ju-bo at msn.com> on 2002.04.22 at 18:40:44(8594)
Hi There Lord P,
Now I think back 50 years or so to my little kindergarten school in the S.
of a Tropical Island, sitting under the shade of a tree, my Hindu teacher,
whip in hand, leading all us little rainbow-colored multi-racial kids in
one of the MANY 'chants we memorised--"sixteen drams one ounce, sixteen
ounces one pound, fourteen pounds one STONE---AH HA!!!! So 'your' tuber
weighs 124 lbs.!!! See, Colonialism was good for SOMETHING!! Anyone out
there in cyberspace care to find out how long a 'chain' is? Or how many
hundredweights equal a ton???
Julius
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J '>>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! Could anyone tell me what
11
stones measures up to??????? Gads, I thought you USA'ers were a pain in
converting to Celsius but this one takes the cake....... Stones, can you
believe it? My crusade for the decimal/metric system on this group obviously
is futile........and I have tried SOOOOOOOOOOO hard. This is not going to
work by a mile (did I say "mile"?????).
Lord S. Tony Phalloids
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: aroid-l@mobot.org [mailto:aroid-l@mobot.org]Namens Scott Hyndman
> Verzonden: maandag 22 april 2002 4:50
> Aan: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L
> Onderwerp: FW: Amorpholphallus titanum pollen request
>
>
> Dear All,
>
> Please note the request below from Greg Redwood of Kew for pollen to
> pollinate their soon to bloom Titan Arum. For your
> information, I think
> that this may be the reblooming of the tuber that received all of the
> interesting publicity back in 1996 per the URL at
> http://www.kew.org.uk/kewscientist/ks_oct96/titan.html
> featuring our own
> Peter Boyce during his tenure there. Even if it is the not
> the same, it
> will truly be an enormous inflorescence judging by the weight
> of the tuber!
>
> There were so many Amorphophallus titanum bloomings here in
> the US and else
> where last year that it was hard to keep up with all of them.
> Hopefully,
> someone can help Greg out with some stored pollen, or perhaps
> someone knows
> of a possible contact for fresh pollen. Please contact Greg
> directly at
> your earliest convenience. Also, please feel free to share firsthand
> experience with the tricky technology and art of pollinating these
> fascinating plants as not all hand pollination attempts have been
> successful.
>
> I hope that Greg can please keep us up-to-date with the
> status of Kew's
> Titan Arum.
>
> Best regards, Scott
>
> -------------
> Scott Hyndman, President
> International Aroid Society
> Homepage: http://www.aroid.org/
> Vero Beach, Florida, USA
> USDA Hardiness Zone 10a
> E-mail: hyndman@aroid.org
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------
> From: "Greg Redwood"
> Organization: Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew
> Reply-To: G.Redwood@rbgkew.org.uk
> Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 16:08:36 +0000
> To: hyndman@aroid.org
> Subject: amorpholphallus titanum pollen
>
> Dear Scott,
>
> I found your web page whilst searching for possible sources of
> pollen for Amorphophallus titanum. We have a very large tuber (11
> stone) which will open its flower in approximately 4 weeks. I am
> very keen to pollinate this and am therefor trying to find someone
> who has stored some pollen for this purpose. If you, or anyone you
> know, has stored some pollen from a previous flowering, we would
> be very grateful to recieve some. We would, of course, return the
> favour when ours opens.
>
> Many thanks for your time,
>
> Greg Redwood
> Head of Great Glasshouses & Training Section
> Horticulture & Public Education Department
> Royal Botanic Gardens,
> Kew,
> Richmond
> Surrey
> TW9 3AB
> UNITED KINGDOM
> Phone +44-(0)20 8332-5589
> Mobile +44-(0)7956 360165
> Fax +44-(0)20 8332-5524
>
>
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From: J Romey jromey39 at yahoo.com> on 2002.04.22 at 19:13:15(8595)
I have some pollen left over, not much, but some. Will
someone forward me an email so I can reach them.
Thanks
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--- Scott Hyndman wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> Please note the request below from Greg Redwood of
> Kew for pollen to
> pollinate their soon to bloom Titan Arum. For your
> information, I think
> that this may be the reblooming of the tuber that
> received all of the
> interesting publicity back in 1996 per the URL at
>
http://www.kew.org.uk/kewscientist/ks_oct96/titan.html
> featuring our own
> Peter Boyce during his tenure there. Even if it is
> the not the same, it
> will truly be an enormous inflorescence judging by
> the weight of the tuber!
>
> There were so many Amorphophallus titanum bloomings
> here in the US and else
> where last year that it was hard to keep up with all
> of them. Hopefully,
> someone can help Greg out with some stored pollen,
> or perhaps someone knows
> of a possible contact for fresh pollen. Please
> contact Greg directly at
> your earliest convenience. Also, please feel free
> to share firsthand
> experience with the tricky technology and art of
> pollinating these
> fascinating plants as not all hand pollination
> attempts have been
> successful.
>
> I hope that Greg can please keep us up-to-date with
> the status of Kew's
> Titan Arum.
>
> Best regards, Scott
>
> -------------
> Scott Hyndman, President
> International Aroid Society
> Homepage: http://www.aroid.org/
> Vero Beach, Florida, USA
> USDA Hardiness Zone 10a
> E-mail: hyndman@aroid.org
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------
> From: "Greg Redwood"
> Organization: Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew
> Reply-To: G.Redwood@rbgkew.org.uk
> Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 16:08:36 +0000
> To: hyndman@aroid.org
> Subject: amorpholphallus titanum pollen
>
> Dear Scott,
>
> I found your web page whilst searching for possible
> sources of
> pollen for Amorphophallus titanum. We have a very
> large tuber (11
> stone) which will open its flower in approximately 4
> weeks. I am
> very keen to pollinate this and am therefor trying
> to find someone
> who has stored some pollen for this purpose. If
> you, or anyone you
> know, has stored some pollen from a previous
> flowering, we would
> be very grateful to recieve some. We would, of
> course, return the
> favour when ours opens.
>
> Many thanks for your time,
>
> Greg Redwood
> Head of Great Glasshouses & Training Section
> Horticulture & Public Education Department
> Royal Botanic Gardens,
> Kew,
> Richmond
> Surrey
> TW9 3AB
> UNITED KINGDOM
> Phone +44-(0)20 8332-5589
> Mobile +44-(0)7956 360165
> Fax +44-(0)20 8332-5524
>
__________________________________________________
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From: Ron Weeks rhweeks at attglobal.net> on 2002.04.22 at 19:16:25(8597)
Eleven stones is equal to 53900 scruples but only 4.7865 slugs. I trust
this will clear up the confusion.
E-Z Converter Weeks
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From: "Cooper, Susan L." SLCooper at scj.com> on 2002.04.22 at 19:17:57(8598)
154 lbs
Susan
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-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 10:36 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L
Subject: RE: Amorpholphallus titanum pollen request
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! Could anyone tell me what 11
stones measures up to????
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From: "joanwall" joanwall at visionet.org> on 2002.04.22 at 19:19:30(8599)
I just asked an English friend about that and she said a stone is 14 pounds.
Joan
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! Could anyone tell me what 11
> stones measures up to??????? Gads, I thought you USA'ers were a pain in
> converting to Celsius but this one takes the cake....... Stones, can you
> believe it? My crusade for the decimal/metric system on this group
obviously
> is futile........and I have tried SOOOOOOOOOOO hard. This is not going to
> work by a mile (did I say "mile"?????).
>
>
> Lord S. Tony Phalloids
>
>
>
> > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > Van: aroid-l@mobot.org [mailto:aroid-l@mobot.org]Namens Scott Hyndman
> > Verzonden: maandag 22 april 2002 4:50
> > Aan: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L
> > Onderwerp: FW: Amorpholphallus titanum pollen request
> >
> >
> > Dear All,
> >
> > Please note the request below from Greg Redwood of Kew for pollen to
> > pollinate their soon to bloom Titan Arum. For your
> > information, I think
> > that this may be the reblooming of the tuber that received all of the
> > interesting publicity back in 1996 per the URL at
> > http://www.kew.org.uk/kewscientist/ks_oct96/titan.html
> > featuring our own
> > Peter Boyce during his tenure there. Even if it is the not
> > the same, it
> > will truly be an enormous inflorescence judging by the weight
> > of the tuber!
> >
> > There were so many Amorphophallus titanum bloomings here in
> > the US and else
> > where last year that it was hard to keep up with all of them.
> > Hopefully,
> > someone can help Greg out with some stored pollen, or perhaps
> > someone knows
> > of a possible contact for fresh pollen. Please contact Greg
> > directly at
> > your earliest convenience. Also, please feel free to share firsthand
> > experience with the tricky technology and art of pollinating these
> > fascinating plants as not all hand pollination attempts have been
> > successful.
> >
> > I hope that Greg can please keep us up-to-date with the
> > status of Kew's
> > Titan Arum.
> >
> > Best regards, Scott
> >
> > -------------
> > Scott Hyndman, President
> > International Aroid Society
> > Homepage: http://www.aroid.org/
> > Vero Beach, Florida, USA
> > USDA Hardiness Zone 10a
> > E-mail: hyndman@aroid.org
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------
> > From: "Greg Redwood"
> > Organization: Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew
> > Reply-To: G.Redwood@rbgkew.org.uk
> > Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 16:08:36 +0000
> > To: hyndman@aroid.org
> > Subject: amorpholphallus titanum pollen
> >
> > Dear Scott,
> >
> > I found your web page whilst searching for possible sources of
> > pollen for Amorphophallus titanum. We have a very large tuber (11
> > stone) which will open its flower in approximately 4 weeks. I am
> > very keen to pollinate this and am therefor trying to find someone
> > who has stored some pollen for this purpose. If you, or anyone you
> > know, has stored some pollen from a previous flowering, we would
> > be very grateful to recieve some. We would, of course, return the
> > favour when ours opens.
> >
> > Many thanks for your time,
> >
> > Greg Redwood
> > Head of Great Glasshouses & Training Section
> > Horticulture & Public Education Department
> > Royal Botanic Gardens,
> > Kew,
> > Richmond
> > Surrey
> > TW9 3AB
> > UNITED KINGDOM
> > Phone +44-(0)20 8332-5589
> > Mobile +44-(0)7956 360165
> > Fax +44-(0)20 8332-5524
> >
> >
>
>
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From: StroWi at t-online.de (StroWi) on 2002.04.22 at 19:53:24(8601)
My dear Lord,
you have my full compasion in your desperation about these units dating back probably to the mediaeval ages. Or are they even of celtic ???
However, dear Lord, maybe I can give a rough idea about stones.
About two decades ago I was run over by a mastiff dog; luckily not attacked, since it was just a puppy of about one year.
This dog weight 10 stone seven, that was and is converted to kg about 67 kg!!! (If i remember it correctly ... or was it rather the weight that dog would reach, when grown up? Can't remember exactly..) I gues the seven of the 10 stone seven was some kind of lb; no idea, if imperial, american or celtic lbs. And, if I am not wrong again, 12 lbs made up one of these stones.
So my dear Lord, did you get it?
But surely some US aroider, faintly acquainted with the decimal/metric system will bring some light into this darkness.
With deep sympathy,
Bernhard.
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(grown up with the decimal and metric system and probably too simple minded to see through these other systems :-( .......)
"Wilbert Hetterscheid" schrieb:
> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! Could anyone tell me what 11
> stones measures up to??????? Gads, I thought you USA'ers were a pain in
> converting to Celsius but this one takes the cake....... Stones, can you
> believe it? My crusade for the decimal/metric system on this group obviously
> is futile........and I have tried SOOOOOOOOOOO hard. This is not going to
> work by a mile (did I say "mile"?????).
>
>
> Lord S. Tony Phalloids
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From: "Kathy Kempf" wont_read101 at hotmail.com> on 2002.04.22 at 20:59:10(8604)
LLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL We "USA'ers" do not use "stone" that
is a pure Britishism. A stone is about 12 pounds. I don't know what that
works out to in metric, but I guess you can use a metric converter. We also
hate metric in this country, but most of us do use the pound, rather than
the stone. I sure got a great laugh from your message!
>From: "Wilbert Hetterscheid"
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>Reply-To: aroid-l@mobot.org
>To: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L
>Subject: RE: Amorpholphallus titanum pollen request
>Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 10:36:12 -0500 (CDT)
>
>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! Could anyone tell me what 11
>stones measures up to??????? Gads, I thought you USA'ers were a pain in
>converting to Celsius but this one takes the cake....... Stones, can you
>believe it? My crusade for the decimal/metric system on this group
>obviously
>is futile........and I have tried SOOOOOOOOOOO hard. This is not going to
>work by a mile (did I say "mile"?????).
>
>
>Lord S. Tony Phalloids
>
>
>
> > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > Van: aroid-l@mobot.org [mailto:aroid-l@mobot.org]Namens Scott Hyndman
> > Verzonden: maandag 22 april 2002 4:50
> > Aan: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L
> > Onderwerp: FW: Amorpholphallus titanum pollen request
> >
> >
> > Dear All,
> >
> > Please note the request below from Greg Redwood of Kew for pollen to
> > pollinate their soon to bloom Titan Arum. For your
> > information, I think
> > that this may be the reblooming of the tuber that received all of the
> > interesting publicity back in 1996 per the URL at
> > http://www.kew.org.uk/kewscientist/ks_oct96/titan.html
> > featuring our own
> > Peter Boyce during his tenure there. Even if it is the not
> > the same, it
> > will truly be an enormous inflorescence judging by the weight
> > of the tuber!
> >
> > There were so many Amorphophallus titanum bloomings here in
> > the US and else
> > where last year that it was hard to keep up with all of them.
> > Hopefully,
> > someone can help Greg out with some stored pollen, or perhaps
> > someone knows
> > of a possible contact for fresh pollen. Please contact Greg
> > directly at
> > your earliest convenience. Also, please feel free to share firsthand
> > experience with the tricky technology and art of pollinating these
> > fascinating plants as not all hand pollination attempts have been
> > successful.
> >
> > I hope that Greg can please keep us up-to-date with the
> > status of Kew's
> > Titan Arum.
> >
> > Best regards, Scott
> >
> > -------------
> > Scott Hyndman, President
> > International Aroid Society
> > Homepage: http://www.aroid.org/
> > Vero Beach, Florida, USA
> > USDA Hardiness Zone 10a
> > E-mail: hyndman@aroid.org
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------
> > From: "Greg Redwood"
> > Organization: Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew
> > Reply-To: G.Redwood@rbgkew.org.uk
> > Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 16:08:36 +0000
> > To: hyndman@aroid.org
> > Subject: amorpholphallus titanum pollen
> >
> > Dear Scott,
> >
> > I found your web page whilst searching for possible sources of
> > pollen for Amorphophallus titanum. We have a very large tuber (11
> > stone) which will open its flower in approximately 4 weeks. I am
> > very keen to pollinate this and am therefor trying to find someone
> > who has stored some pollen for this purpose. If you, or anyone you
> > know, has stored some pollen from a previous flowering, we would
> > be very grateful to recieve some. We would, of course, return the
> > favour when ours opens.
> >
> > Many thanks for your time,
> >
> > Greg Redwood
> > Head of Great Glasshouses & Training Section
> > Horticulture & Public Education Department
> > Royal Botanic Gardens,
> > Kew,
> > Richmond
> > Surrey
> > TW9 3AB
> > UNITED KINGDOM
> > Phone +44-(0)20 8332-5589
> > Mobile +44-(0)7956 360165
> > Fax +44-(0)20 8332-5524
> >
> >
>
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From: "Julius Boos" ju-bo at msn.com> on 2002.04.23 at 02:35:32(8607)
Susan is correctr---11 stone equals 154 lbs, I 'read' the mail and
miscalculated!
Julius
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>>154 lbs
Susan
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 10:36 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L
Subject: RE: Amorpholphallus titanum pollen request
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! Could anyone tell me what 11
stones measures up to????
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From: "Wilbert Hetterscheid" hetter at worldonline.nl> on 2002.04.23 at 19:14:45(8611)
Julius, you're weird you know, funny but weird.
Lord P.
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
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> Van: aroid-l@mobot.org [mailto:aroid-l@mobot.org]Namens Julius Boos
> Verzonden: maandag 22 april 2002 20:39
> Aan: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L
> Onderwerp: Re: Amorpholphallus titanum pollen request
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Wilbert Hetterscheid
> To: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L
> Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 11:36 AM
> Subject: RE: Amorpholphallus titanum pollen request
>
>
> Hi There Lord P,
>
> Now I think back 50 years or so to my little kindergarten
> school in the S.
> of a Tropical Island, sitting under the shade of a tree, my
> Hindu teacher,
> whip in hand, leading all us little rainbow-colored
> multi-racial kids in
> one of the MANY 'chants we memorised--"sixteen drams one
> ounce, sixteen
> ounces one pound, fourteen pounds one STONE---AH HA!!!! So
> 'your' tuber
> weighs 124 lbs.!!! See, Colonialism was good for
> SOMETHING!! Anyone out
> there in cyberspace care to find out how long a 'chain' is?
> Or how many
> hundredweights equal a ton???
>
> Julius
>
> J '>>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! Could
> anyone tell me what
> 11
> stones measures up to??????? Gads, I thought you USA'ers were
> a pain in
> converting to Celsius but this one takes the cake.......
> Stones, can you
> believe it? My crusade for the decimal/metric system on this
> group obviously
> is futile........and I have tried SOOOOOOOOOOO hard. This is
> not going to
> work by a mile (did I say "mile"?????).
>
>
> Lord S. Tony Phalloids
>
>
>
> > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > Van: aroid-l@mobot.org [mailto:aroid-l@mobot.org]Namens
> Scott Hyndman
> > Verzonden: maandag 22 april 2002 4:50
> > Aan: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L
> > Onderwerp: FW: Amorpholphallus titanum pollen request
> >
> >
> > Dear All,
> >
> > Please note the request below from Greg Redwood of Kew for pollen to
> > pollinate their soon to bloom Titan Arum. For your
> > information, I think
> > that this may be the reblooming of the tuber that received
> all of the
> > interesting publicity back in 1996 per the URL at
> > http://www.kew.org.uk/kewscientist/ks_oct96/titan.html
> > featuring our own
> > Peter Boyce during his tenure there. Even if it is the not
> > the same, it
> > will truly be an enormous inflorescence judging by the weight
> > of the tuber!
> >
> > There were so many Amorphophallus titanum bloomings here in
> > the US and else
> > where last year that it was hard to keep up with all of them.
> > Hopefully,
> > someone can help Greg out with some stored pollen, or perhaps
> > someone knows
> > of a possible contact for fresh pollen. Please contact Greg
> > directly at
> > your earliest convenience. Also, please feel free to share
> firsthand
> > experience with the tricky technology and art of pollinating these
> > fascinating plants as not all hand pollination attempts have been
> > successful.
> >
> > I hope that Greg can please keep us up-to-date with the
> > status of Kew's
> > Titan Arum.
> >
> > Best regards, Scott
> >
> > -------------
> > Scott Hyndman, President
> > International Aroid Society
> > Homepage: http://www.aroid.org/
> > Vero Beach, Florida, USA
> > USDA Hardiness Zone 10a
> > E-mail: hyndman@aroid.org
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------
> > From: "Greg Redwood"
> > Organization: Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew
> > Reply-To: G.Redwood@rbgkew.org.uk
> > Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 16:08:36 +0000
> > To: hyndman@aroid.org
> > Subject: amorpholphallus titanum pollen
> >
> > Dear Scott,
> >
> > I found your web page whilst searching for possible sources of
> > pollen for Amorphophallus titanum. We have a very large tuber (11
> > stone) which will open its flower in approximately 4 weeks. I am
> > very keen to pollinate this and am therefor trying to find someone
> > who has stored some pollen for this purpose. If you, or anyone you
> > know, has stored some pollen from a previous flowering, we would
> > be very grateful to recieve some. We would, of course, return the
> > favour when ours opens.
> >
> > Many thanks for your time,
> >
> > Greg Redwood
> > Head of Great Glasshouses & Training Section
> > Horticulture & Public Education Department
> > Royal Botanic Gardens,
> > Kew,
> > Richmond
> > Surrey
> > TW9 3AB
> > UNITED KINGDOM
> > Phone +44-(0)20 8332-5589
> > Mobile +44-(0)7956 360165
> > Fax +44-(0)20 8332-5524
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
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From: "Wilbert Hetterscheid" hetter at worldonline.nl> on 2002.04.23 at 19:16:35(8612)
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!! I am going to kill myself by
jumping from a 3-nautical-mile-high wall.
Lord P.
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> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: aroid-l@mobot.org [mailto:aroid-l@mobot.org]Namens
> Cooper, Susan L.
> Verzonden: maandag 22 april 2002 21:17
> Aan: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L
> Onderwerp: RE: Amorpholphallus titanum pollen request
>
>
> 154 lbs
>
> Susan
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wilbert Hetterscheid [mailto:hetter@worldonline.nl]
> Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 10:36 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L
> Subject: RE: Amorpholphallus titanum pollen request
>
>
> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! Could anyone
> tell me what 11
> stones measures up to????
>
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From: "Wilbert Hetterscheid" hetter at worldonline.nl> on 2002.04.23 at 19:18:06(8613)
Oooh, brrrrrrrrother...............
Lord P.
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
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> Van: aroid-l@mobot.org [mailto:aroid-l@mobot.org]Namens joanwall
> Verzonden: maandag 22 april 2002 21:18
> Aan: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L
> Onderwerp: Re: Amorpholphallus titanum pollen request
>
>
> I just asked an English friend about that and she said a
> stone is 14 pounds.
> Joan
> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! Could anyone
> tell me what 11
> > stones measures up to??????? Gads, I thought you USA'ers
> were a pain in
> > converting to Celsius but this one takes the cake.......
> Stones, can you
> > believe it? My crusade for the decimal/metric system on this group
> obviously
> > is futile........and I have tried SOOOOOOOOOOO hard. This
> is not going to
> > work by a mile (did I say "mile"?????).
> >
> >
> > Lord S. Tony Phalloids
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > > Van: aroid-l@mobot.org [mailto:aroid-l@mobot.org]Namens
> Scott Hyndman
> > > Verzonden: maandag 22 april 2002 4:50
> > > Aan: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L
> > > Onderwerp: FW: Amorpholphallus titanum pollen request
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear All,
> > >
> > > Please note the request below from Greg Redwood of Kew
> for pollen to
> > > pollinate their soon to bloom Titan Arum. For your
> > > information, I think
> > > that this may be the reblooming of the tuber that
> received all of the
> > > interesting publicity back in 1996 per the URL at
> > > http://www.kew.org.uk/kewscientist/ks_oct96/titan.html
> > > featuring our own
> > > Peter Boyce during his tenure there. Even if it is the not
> > > the same, it
> > > will truly be an enormous inflorescence judging by the weight
> > > of the tuber!
> > >
> > > There were so many Amorphophallus titanum bloomings here in
> > > the US and else
> > > where last year that it was hard to keep up with all of them.
> > > Hopefully,
> > > someone can help Greg out with some stored pollen, or perhaps
> > > someone knows
> > > of a possible contact for fresh pollen. Please contact Greg
> > > directly at
> > > your earliest convenience. Also, please feel free to
> share firsthand
> > > experience with the tricky technology and art of pollinating these
> > > fascinating plants as not all hand pollination attempts have been
> > > successful.
> > >
> > > I hope that Greg can please keep us up-to-date with the
> > > status of Kew's
> > > Titan Arum.
> > >
> > > Best regards, Scott
> > >
> > > -------------
> > > Scott Hyndman, President
> > > International Aroid Society
> > > Homepage: http://www.aroid.org/
> > > Vero Beach, Florida, USA
> > > USDA Hardiness Zone 10a
> > > E-mail: hyndman@aroid.org
> > >
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------
> > > From: "Greg Redwood"
> > > Organization: Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew
> > > Reply-To: G.Redwood@rbgkew.org.uk
> > > Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 16:08:36 +0000
> > > To: hyndman@aroid.org
> > > Subject: amorpholphallus titanum pollen
> > >
> > > Dear Scott,
> > >
> > > I found your web page whilst searching for possible sources of
> > > pollen for Amorphophallus titanum. We have a very large tuber (11
> > > stone) which will open its flower in approximately 4 weeks. I am
> > > very keen to pollinate this and am therefor trying to find someone
> > > who has stored some pollen for this purpose. If you, or
> anyone you
> > > know, has stored some pollen from a previous flowering, we would
> > > be very grateful to recieve some. We would, of course, return the
> > > favour when ours opens.
> > >
> > > Many thanks for your time,
> > >
> > > Greg Redwood
> > > Head of Great Glasshouses & Training Section
> > > Horticulture & Public Education Department
> > > Royal Botanic Gardens,
> > > Kew,
> > > Richmond
> > > Surrey
> > > TW9 3AB
> > > UNITED KINGDOM
> > > Phone +44-(0)20 8332-5589
> > > Mobile +44-(0)7956 360165
> > > Fax +44-(0)20 8332-5524
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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From: "Wilbert Hetterscheid" hetter at worldonline.nl> on 2002.04.23 at 19:19:38(8614)
Now
here we have a full-scale European trying to make me happy. Well, I guess it
didn't work but thanks for trying Bernhard. I think we must start a new
discussion group: DECIMAL-l and this will ONLY be open to decimalists
(decimal-list....get the picture.......?) and metrists. We will only be allowed
to speak the decimal languages (there are several) and we must rise up to a
boycot of the infamous Ouncists, Stoneists, Fahrenhitters, Inchers, Gallonists
ate., etc. etc. Errr, am I getting carried away here a little on a list of aroid
nuts? Sorry folks, will try to behave better next time.
Lord
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P(inch)
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----Van: aroid-l@mobot.org
[mailto:aroid-l@mobot.org]Namens StroWiVerzonden: maandag 22
april 2002 21:52Aan: Multiple recipients of list
AROID-LOnderwerp: RE: Amorpholphallus titanum pollen
requestMy dear Lord,
you have my full compasion in
your desperation about these units dating back probably to the mediaeval ages.
Or are they even of celtic ??? However, dear Lord, maybe I can give a rough idea about stones.
About two decades ago I was run
over by a mastiff dog; luckily not attacked, since it was just a puppy of
about one year. This dog weight 10
stone seven, that was and is converted to kg about 67 kg!!! (If i remember it
correctly ... or was it rather the weight that dog would reach, when grown up?
Can't remember exactly..) I gues the seven of the 10 stone seven was some kind
of lb; no idea, if imperial, american or celtic lbs. And, if I am not wrong
again, 12 lbs made up one of these stones. So my dear Lord, did you get it?
But surely some US aroider,
faintly acquainted with the decimal/metric system will bring some light into
this darkness. With deep
sympathy, Bernhard.
(grown up with the decimal and
metric system and probably too simple minded to see through these other
systems :-( .......) "Wilbert Hetterscheid" schrieb:
>
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! Could anyone tell me what 11
> stones measures up to???????
Gads, I thought you USA'ers were a pain in > converting to Celsius but this one takes the cake....... Stones,
can you > believe it? My crusade
for the decimal/metric system on this group obviously > is futile........and I have tried SOOOOOOOOOOO
hard. This is not going to >
work by a mile (did I say "mile"?????). > > > Lord S. Tony Phalloids
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From: "Wilbert Hetterscheid" hetter at worldonline.nl> on 2002.04.23 at 19:21:09(8615)
Stone as in Stone Age, I guess. Well, I am glad somebody had a laugh........
I guess that's all a serious observer of the non-metric systems can do.
Laugh his head off.
Lord P.
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> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: aroid-l@mobot.org [mailto:aroid-l@mobot.org]Namens Kathy Kempf
> Verzonden: maandag 22 april 2002 22:58
> Aan: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L
> Onderwerp: RE: Amorpholphallus titanum pollen request
>
>
> LLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL We "USA'ers" do not
> use "stone" that
> is a pure Britishism. A stone is about 12 pounds. I don't
> know what that
> works out to in metric, but I guess you can use a metric
> converter. We also
> hate metric in this country, but most of us do use the pound,
> rather than
> the stone. I sure got a great laugh from your message!
>
>
> >From: "Wilbert Hetterscheid"
> >Reply-To: aroid-l@mobot.org
> >To: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L
> >Subject: RE: Amorpholphallus titanum pollen request
> >Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 10:36:12 -0500 (CDT)
> >
> >AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! Could anyone
> tell me what 11
> >stones measures up to??????? Gads, I thought you USA'ers
> were a pain in
> >converting to Celsius but this one takes the cake.......
> Stones, can you
> >believe it? My crusade for the decimal/metric system on this group
> >obviously
> >is futile........and I have tried SOOOOOOOOOOO hard. This is
> not going to
> >work by a mile (did I say "mile"?????).
> >
> >
> >Lord S. Tony Phalloids
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > > Van: aroid-l@mobot.org [mailto:aroid-l@mobot.org]Namens
> Scott Hyndman
> > > Verzonden: maandag 22 april 2002 4:50
> > > Aan: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L
> > > Onderwerp: FW: Amorpholphallus titanum pollen request
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear All,
> > >
> > > Please note the request below from Greg Redwood of Kew
> for pollen to
> > > pollinate their soon to bloom Titan Arum. For your
> > > information, I think
> > > that this may be the reblooming of the tuber that
> received all of the
> > > interesting publicity back in 1996 per the URL at
> > > http://www.kew.org.uk/kewscientist/ks_oct96/titan.html
> > > featuring our own
> > > Peter Boyce during his tenure there. Even if it is the not
> > > the same, it
> > > will truly be an enormous inflorescence judging by the weight
> > > of the tuber!
> > >
> > > There were so many Amorphophallus titanum bloomings here in
> > > the US and else
> > > where last year that it was hard to keep up with all of them.
> > > Hopefully,
> > > someone can help Greg out with some stored pollen, or perhaps
> > > someone knows
> > > of a possible contact for fresh pollen. Please contact Greg
> > > directly at
> > > your earliest convenience. Also, please feel free to
> share firsthand
> > > experience with the tricky technology and art of pollinating these
> > > fascinating plants as not all hand pollination attempts have been
> > > successful.
> > >
> > > I hope that Greg can please keep us up-to-date with the
> > > status of Kew's
> > > Titan Arum.
> > >
> > > Best regards, Scott
> > >
> > > -------------
> > > Scott Hyndman, President
> > > International Aroid Society
> > > Homepage: http://www.aroid.org/
> > > Vero Beach, Florida, USA
> > > USDA Hardiness Zone 10a
> > > E-mail: hyndman@aroid.org
> > >
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------
> > > From: "Greg Redwood"
> > > Organization: Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew
> > > Reply-To: G.Redwood@rbgkew.org.uk
> > > Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 16:08:36 +0000
> > > To: hyndman@aroid.org
> > > Subject: amorpholphallus titanum pollen
> > >
> > > Dear Scott,
> > >
> > > I found your web page whilst searching for possible sources of
> > > pollen for Amorphophallus titanum. We have a very large tuber (11
> > > stone) which will open its flower in approximately 4 weeks. I am
> > > very keen to pollinate this and am therefor trying to find someone
> > > who has stored some pollen for this purpose. If you, or
> anyone you
> > > know, has stored some pollen from a previous flowering, we would
> > > be very grateful to recieve some. We would, of course, return the
> > > favour when ours opens.
> > >
> > > Many thanks for your time,
> > >
> > > Greg Redwood
> > > Head of Great Glasshouses & Training Section
> > > Horticulture & Public Education Department
> > > Royal Botanic Gardens,
> > > Kew,
> > > Richmond
> > > Surrey
> > > TW9 3AB
> > > UNITED KINGDOM
> > > Phone +44-(0)20 8332-5589
> > > Mobile +44-(0)7956 360165
> > > Fax +44-(0)20 8332-5524
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com
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From: "Wilbert Hetterscheid" hetter at worldonline.nl> on 2002.04.23 at 19:22:46(8616)
Now THIS is interesting! See how easy it is to make "miscalculations" when
the equations between the different entities in your systems make no
sense!!!!!!! HAH!! Got you there, non-metric sorry creatures!!!!!!
Lord P.
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> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: aroid-l@mobot.org [mailto:aroid-l@mobot.org]Namens Julius Boos
> Verzonden: dinsdag 23 april 2002 4:34
> Aan: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L
> Onderwerp: Re: Amorpholphallus titanum pollen request
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Cooper, Susan L.
> To: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L
> Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 3:17 PM
> Subject: RE: Amorpholphallus titanum pollen request
>
>
> Susan is correctr---11 stone equals 154 lbs, I 'read' the mail and
> miscalculated!
>
> Julius
>
> >>154 lbs
>
> Susan
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wilbert Hetterscheid [mailto:hetter@worldonline.nl]
> Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 10:36 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L
> Subject: RE: Amorpholphallus titanum pollen request
>
>
> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! Could anyone
> tell me what 11
> stones measures up to????
>
>
>
>
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From: "Cooper, Susan L." SLCooper at scj.com> on 2002.04.23 at 19:56:18(8618)
69.85322 kg
Before you go, please remember me in your will.
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 2:17 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L
Subject: RE: Amorpholphallus titanum pollen request
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!! I am going to kill myself by
jumping from a 3-nautical-mile-high wall.
Lord P.
>llen request
>
>
> 154 lbs
>
> Susan
>
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From: Krzysztof Kozminski kk at kozminski.com> on 2002.04.24 at 02:59:28(8619)
On Tue, 23 Apr 2002, Wilbert Hetterscheid wrote:
> Now THIS is interesting! See how easy it is to make "miscalculations" when
> the equations between the different entities in your systems make no
> sense!!!!!!! HAH!! Got you there, non-metric sorry creatures!!!!!!
Heh, heh, this is completely off-topic, but you're still lucky that this
14 stone tuber weighs exactly 14 stones.
But, for example, in the US, the 1/2-inch thick plywood is really 31/64
inches thick, and a 2-by-4 inch piece of wood is really 1.5 by 3.5 inches,
unless it is rough 2x4, in which case it is exactly 2x4 :-)
KK
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====================
"Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity"
Krzysztof Kozminski
kk@kozminski.com
http://www.kozminski.com/
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From: "Julius Boos" ju-bo at msn.com> on 2002.04.24 at 16:06:31(8622)
And you, Lord P, are THE most non-weird, level headed and straight-laced man
we know of! :--)>
"There is a pleasure in being mad that none but madmen know"---old German
proverb.
Julius
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>>Julius, you're weird you know, funny but weird.
Lord P.<
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: aroid-l@mobot.org [mailto:aroid-l@mobot.org]Namens Julius Boos
> Verzonden: maandag 22 april 2002 20:39
> Aan: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L
> Onderwerp: Re: Amorpholphallus titanum pollen request
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Wilbert Hetterscheid
> To: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L
> Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 11:36 AM
> Subject: RE: Amorpholphallus titanum pollen request
>
>
> Hi There Lord P,
>
> Now I think back 50 years or so to my little kindergarten
> school in the S.
> of a Tropical Island, sitting under the shade of a tree, my
> Hindu teacher,
> whip in hand, leading all us little rainbow-colored
> multi-racial kids in
> one of the MANY 'chants we memorised--"sixteen drams one
> ounce, sixteen
> ounces one pound, fourteen pounds one STONE---AH HA!!!! So
> 'your' tuber
> weighs 124 lbs.!!! See, Colonialism was good for
> SOMETHING!! Anyone out
> there in cyberspace care to find out how long a 'chain' is?
> Or how many
> hundredweights equal a ton???
>
> Julius
>
> J '>>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! Could
> anyone tell me what
> 11
> stones measures up to??????? Gads, I thought you USA'ers were
> a pain in
> converting to Celsius but this one takes the cake.......
> Stones, can you
> believe it? My crusade for the decimal/metric system on this
> group obviously
> is futile........and I have tried SOOOOOOOOOOO hard. This is
> not going to
> work by a mile (did I say "mile"?????).
>
>
> Lord S. Tony Phalloids
>
>
>
> > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > Van: aroid-l@mobot.org [mailto:aroid-l@mobot.org]Namens
> Scott Hyndman
> > Verzonden: maandag 22 april 2002 4:50
> > Aan: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L
> > Onderwerp: FW: Amorpholphallus titanum pollen request
> >
> >
> > Dear All,
> >
> > Please note the request below from Greg Redwood of Kew for pollen to
> > pollinate their soon to bloom Titan Arum. For your
> > information, I think
> > that this may be the reblooming of the tuber that received
> all of the
> > interesting publicity back in 1996 per the URL at
> > http://www.kew.org.uk/kewscientist/ks_oct96/titan.html
> > featuring our own
> > Peter Boyce during his tenure there. Even if it is the not
> > the same, it
> > will truly be an enormous inflorescence judging by the weight
> > of the tuber!
> >
> > There were so many Amorphophallus titanum bloomings here in
> > the US and else
> > where last year that it was hard to keep up with all of them.
> > Hopefully,
> > someone can help Greg out with some stored pollen, or perhaps
> > someone knows
> > of a possible contact for fresh pollen. Please contact Greg
> > directly at
> > your earliest convenience. Also, please feel free to share
> firsthand
> > experience with the tricky technology and art of pollinating these
> > fascinating plants as not all hand pollination attempts have been
> > successful.
> >
> > I hope that Greg can please keep us up-to-date with the
> > status of Kew's
> > Titan Arum.
> >
> > Best regards, Scott
> >
> > -------------
> > Scott Hyndman, President
> > International Aroid Society
> > Homepage: http://www.aroid.org/
> > Vero Beach, Florida, USA
> > USDA Hardiness Zone 10a
> > E-mail: hyndman@aroid.org
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------
> > From: "Greg Redwood"
> > Organization: Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew
> > Reply-To: G.Redwood@rbgkew.org.uk
> > Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 16:08:36 +0000
> > To: hyndman@aroid.org
> > Subject: amorpholphallus titanum pollen
> >
> > Dear Scott,
> >
> > I found your web page whilst searching for possible sources of
> > pollen for Amorphophallus titanum. We have a very large tuber (11
> > stone) which will open its flower in approximately 4 weeks. I am
> > very keen to pollinate this and am therefor trying to find someone
> > who has stored some pollen for this purpose. If you, or anyone you
> > know, has stored some pollen from a previous flowering, we would
> > be very grateful to recieve some. We would, of course, return the
> > favour when ours opens.
> >
> > Many thanks for your time,
> >
> > Greg Redwood
> > Head of Great Glasshouses & Training Section
> > Horticulture & Public Education Department
> > Royal Botanic Gardens,
> > Kew,
> > Richmond
> > Surrey
> > TW9 3AB
> > UNITED KINGDOM
> > Phone +44-(0)20 8332-5589
> > Mobile +44-(0)7956 360165
> > Fax +44-(0)20 8332-5524
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
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