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  New Colocasia
From: James Waddick jwaddick at kc.rr.com> on 2003.01.09 at 08:39:26(9792)
Dear all;
Does anyone have any description of some new Colocasia being offered by
Winterberry Farms
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From: "M D" mdeluca at tampabay.rr.com> on 2003.01.09 at 15:51:33(9800)
I have a picture saved of Colocasia Elepaio. From what I understand it's
the same as Milky Way. I could be wrong. Either way, Milky Way is also a
variegated Colocasia. Mine was sold to me as Milky Way from Brian Williams
and it seemed to have better variegation than the one pictured.....it is now
dormant. Brian may have more insight on this, or maybe a picture of his
Milky Way.

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From: "Julius Boos" ju-bo at msn.com> on 2003.01.11 at 07:09:12(9809)
----- Original Message -----
To:
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 11:39 AM
Subject: [aroid-l] New Colocasia

Dear James,

I do NOT know for sure, but my GUESS is that they are from collections made
by Walter Pagels when he travelled throughout Indonesia and the Phillipines
several years ago. Walter specialized in Aquatics, and introduced many new
varieties to W. cultivation.
They consist of Colocasia esculenta cultivars that are stoloniferous, and
the leaves and/or petioles are colored varoius shades of purple/dark
reddish/black. Some are quite cold/cool resistant and the one I saw in
Cen. Florida was growing in a fish pond out doors in the 40`s. They are
probably cultivated in their native lands for their edible leaves, and would
probably make a good calallo! Speaking of which I shall be giving a talk
to the Begonia Soc. at Mounts Bot. Garden here in W.P.B., Florida this
Monday at 7.30 PM on edible ARoids, and hope to have samples of calallo,
dasheen, curried chicken w/ Xanthosoma, eddoes, etc. for tasting!!!

Good Growing,

Julius Boos

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From: "Chanrit Sinhabaedya" siamanthus at hotmail.com> on 2003.01.11 at 09:18:12(9810)
Dear all,

How about this one?
Does anybody here knows the species/cultivar name of this following
Colocasia?

http://photos.yahoo.com/cuddlypark

:)
Chanrit Sinhabaedya

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From: "brian williams" pugturd50 at hotmail.com> on 2003.01.11 at 13:13:04(9813)
The Colocasias at winterberry farms came from me. As they were interested in
doing some Tissue culture work on them to sell for pond and tropical
landscapes. They asked me to name some that had no IDs. I had searched to
find some Hawaiian or scientific names on these that I sent with no luck. So
inorder for them to sell placed names on them. Most of them have different
colored stem forms.

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From: "Julius Boos" ju-bo at msn.com> on 2003.01.11 at 14:22:02(9816)
Dear Chandrit and all Friends,

I do not know of a name for this very attractive cultivar, thanks Chanrit!!.
In looking at the photo again, and re-checking the page of Colocasia
cultivars sent by Dr.James Waddick, to me it bears a resemblance to the
photo of C. esculenta 'Fontanesii" at Winterberry Farms plant list., except
for the upward habit of the three leafblade tips on Chandrit`s plant. One
can ponder that Chandrit`s plant is probably a selection/cultivar of C.
esculenta "Fontanesii'
What we should keep in mind is the apparent great diversity of form in the
species Colocasia esculenta, there will be hundreds if not THOUSANDS of
cultivars 'out there', some w/ local names, some without, VERY few w/ any
recognisable and/or REGISTERED cultivar name. This species is said to
'evolve' and modify itself in cultivation (with the help of man who selects
new and different 'cultivars' from the established crop) in a short space of
time. Taking the Colocasias of Hawaii as a case in point, we must assume
that the early canoe-ocean arrivals brought with them just a few cultivars
of this plant (taro), yet in just a relative short space of time (just
thousands of years) when a count was done recently, there were over 200
recognised and named cultivars on these Islands! We discussed this some
time ago, that cultivated and some wild Aroids can 'evolve' vegetatively
literally from 'mother' plant to 'sucker' or proagule! Get a plant of
what is sold as Xanthosoma (who-knows-what sp.) cv. or var.'monstrosum' (the
all-green one w/ the 'frills' under the leaf blade), you can soon have a
collection of very different looking plants, as many of the
off-shoots/suckers/propagulas will be quite different in leaf-shape from the
parent plant.
ENOUGH!!

Good Growing,

Julius Boos

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From: James Waddick jwaddick at kc.rr.com> on 2003.01.11 at 20:01:28(9821)
Dear Julius;
Private mail gave these descriptions as:

Colocasia 'Pink Princess' This form has a pink white streaked stem
Colocasia 'Bloody Mary' This has green stems with red streaks on it
Colocasia 'Milky Way' This has white spots on the leafs
sometimes variegated half and half.

There are others at Winterberry Farms.

Sounds pretty interesting, but Winterberry is wholesale. Alas.

Jim W.

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From: hermine hermine at endangeredspecies.com> on 2003.01.12 at 08:42:38(9823)
There are others at Winterberry Farms.

Sounds pretty interesting, but Winterberry is wholesale. Alas.

Jim W.

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From: Paul Tyerman ptyerman at ozemail.com.au> on 2003.01.12 at 21:27:30(9827)
At 06:51 9/01/03 -0500, you wrote:
>I have a picture saved of Colocasia Elepaio. From what I understand it's
>the same as Milky Way. I could be wrong. Either way, Milky Way is also a
>variegated Colocasia. Mine was sold to me as Milky Way from Brian Williams
>and it seemed to have better variegation than the one pictured.....it is now
>dormant. Brian may have more insight on this, or maybe a picture of his
>Milky Way.
>

Howdy All,

While we're discussing this, I saw at a local nursery recently a
Colocasia/Alocasia (I cannot remember which it was, but it just had a
generic tag in one of these names) that was almost bright red. The leaf
blade itself was a deep red-pink with almost black stems to it. This was
nothing at all like I'd ever seen in these before. Where does this sort of
colouration come from? Obviously it is bred for this colour, but does this
originate somewhere in the pigments of a purple leaf?

The query about the new Colocasia reminded me of this which is why I ask.

Cheers.

Paul Tyerman

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From: "brian williams" pugturd50 at hotmail.com> on 2003.01.12 at 23:46:14(9830)
I have all the ones that winterberry has listed if you don't want to buy
from them. I also have more as I was worried if this was going to work out
the way I hoped. So far so good I guess :>)
Winterberry farms seems very interested in helping collectors who want a few
trays or more of certain plants. I do think they could be a very good source
for hobbyist nurseries to supply small amounts of very odd plants to
nurseries. This is manly what I and many other people are smaller nurseries
who carry very odd plants. So helping them out seems like a good idea. So
far we both seem to get something from it. Which is good for both. But if
you are looking to get the plants now or would like to see PICS of them I
can email a list of them and most would have PICS. THANKS

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From: James Waddick jwaddick at kc.rr.com> on 2003.01.13 at 06:03:13(9832)
HOW WHOLESALE? what is a minimum order, for instance?

Dear Herm;
Actually you don't need to order that many of each, but check
out the folks there for real info:

Best Jim W.
--
Dr. James W. Waddick
8871 NW Brostrom Rd.
Kansas City Missouri 64152-2711
USA

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From: "Dany Hervelle" bs246466 at skynet.be> on 2003.01.22 at 05:45:42(9868)
hello Chanrit

here is the way to go to the 'alocasias-only'group forum!
best regards

Dany

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