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Alocasia macrorrhiza or odora

From: Eric Schmidt <leu242 at yahoo.com> on 2004.12.20 at 21:13:26(12481)
Is this Alocasia macrorrhiza or odora in the photos?
It is growing naturalized in a nearby swampy area.
There are 2 big patches of this Alocasia.
What is the main differences between the 2 species?
PHOTO 1
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/leu242/detail?.dir�e6&.dnm�2b.jpg&.src=ph
PHOTO 2
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/leu242/detail?.dir�e6&.dnm�33.jpg&.src=ph
Thanks,
Eric
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Orlando,FL z9b

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From: "LARIANN GARNER" <AROIDIAN at worldnet.att.net> on 2004.12.22 at 04:08:29(12486)
Eric,
Looks like A. odora to me; wonder if you could send me a piece (to expand my
gene pool for breeding)?
LariAnn Garner
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Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 4:13 PM
Subject: [Aroid-l] Alocasia macrorrhiza or odora
>
> Is this Alocasia macrorrhiza or odora in the photos?
> It is growing naturalized in a nearby swampy area.
> There are 2 big patches of this Alocasia.
>
> What is the main differences between the 2 species?
>
> PHOTO 1
>
>
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/leu242/detail?.dir�e6&.dnm�2b.jpg&.src=ph
>
> PHOTO 2
>
>
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/leu242/detail?.dir�e6&.dnm�33.jpg&.src=ph
>
> Thanks,
> Eric
> Orlando,FL z9b
>
>
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From: "Alistair Hay" <ajmhay at hotmail.com> on 2004.12.22 at 11:27:12(12488)
Hi Eric,
Looks like odora - glaucous spathe and peltate leaf, though the peduncle seems unusually short.
macrorrhizos only has peltate leaves as a seedling and the spathe is not glaucous. Odora is much cold hardier too.
Alistair
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>From: Eric Schmidt
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>Subject: [Aroid-l] Alocasia macrorrhiza or odora
>Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 13:13:26 -0800 (PST)
>
>
>Is this Alocasia macrorrhiza or odora in the photos?
>It is growing naturalized in a nearby swampy area.
>There are 2 big patches of this Alocasia.
>
>What is the main differences between the 2 species?
>
>PHOTO 1
>
>http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/leu242/detail?.dir�e6&.dnm�2b.jpg&.src=""
>
>PHOTO 2
>
>http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/leu242/detail?.dir�e6&.dnm�33.jpg&.src=""
>
>Thanks,
>Eric
>Orlando,FL z9b
>
>
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From: "Abrimaal Svartvinter" <abrimaal at o2.pl> on 2004.12.22 at 14:47:14(12490)
Hello
This is A. odora in 95%
When not in bloom you can distinguish them by leaves
A. odora had slightly peltate leaves, macrorhiza not
what is easiest to see in young plants, because an adult
A. odora sometimes produces almost non-peltate leaves
The inflorescences are more different:
You can compare them here
A. odora: http://www.roberek.net/abrimaal/araceum/alocasia/macroinf2.jpg
(don't be deceived by the filename, initially I also had a poblem with these
two)
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A. macrorhiza: http://www.csdl.tamu.edu/FLORA/beverly/bt0104.jpg
Greetings
Marek Argent
----- Original Message -----
To: "Discussion of aroids"
Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 10:13 PM
Subject: [Aroid-l] Alocasia macrorrhiza or odora
Is this Alocasia macrorrhiza or odora in the photos?
It is growing naturalized in a nearby swampy area.
There are 2 big patches of this Alocasia.
What is the main differences between the 2 species?
PHOTO 1
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/leu242/detail?.dir�e6&.dnm�2b.jpg&.src=ph
PHOTO 2
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/leu242/detail?.dir�e6&.dnm�33.jpg&.src=ph
Thanks,
Eric
Orlando,FL z9b
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From: Thaumaturgist asitkghosh at yahoo.com> on 2004.12.28 at 09:19:50(12502)
Eric
Thanks for sharing.
Never seen a naturalized A Macrorrhiza in a swamp.
There are many A Indica specimens growing wild around
here but not a single A Macrorrhiza.
Asit K. Ghosh
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Rockledge, FL
Zone 10a
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--- Eric Schmidt wrote:
>
> Is this Alocasia macrorrhiza or odora in the photos?
> It is growing naturalized in a nearby swampy area.
> There are 2 big patches of this Alocasia.
>
> What is the main differences between the 2 species?
>
> PHOTO 1
>
>
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/leu242/detail?.dir�e6&.dnm�2b.jpg&.src=ph
>
> PHOTO 2
>
>
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/leu242/detail?.dir�e6&.dnm�33.jpg&.src=ph
>
> Thanks,
> Eric
> Orlando,FL z9b
>
>
>
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From: "Peter Boyce" peterboyce at myjaring.net> on 2004.12.28 at 21:51:26(12509)
Hi Asit
The naturalized Alocasia in FL is macrorrhizos (indica = macrorrhizos). The
give away for macrorrhizos is that there is no 'ledge' of tissue in the leaf
sinus (the open part between the lobes of the arrow-head-shaped leaf)
Pete
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----- Original Message -----
To: "Discussion of aroids"
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 5:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Alocasia macrorrhiza or odora
Eric
Thanks for sharing.
Never seen a naturalized A Macrorrhiza in a swamp.
There are many A Indica specimens growing wild around
here but not a single A Macrorrhiza.
Asit K. Ghosh
Rockledge, FL
Zone 10a
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--- Eric Schmidt wrote:
Is this Alocasia macrorrhiza or odora in the photos?
It is growing naturalized in a nearby swampy area.
There are 2 big patches of this Alocasia.
What is the main differences between the 2 species?
PHOTO 1
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/leu242/detail?.dir�e6&.dnm�2b.jpg&.src=ph
PHOTO 2
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/leu242/detail?.dir�e6&.dnm�33.jpg&.src=ph
Thanks,
Eric
Orlando,FL z9b
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