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  Alocasia identification
From: "Ralph Coppola" raffy1 at iinet.net.au> on 2005.04.07 at 19:03:42(12855)
Hi everyone!

Can anybody identify this aroid that I bought from eBay - http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&itemC69717957&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT

Your help would be appreciated,

Thank you,

Ralph

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From: "Julius Boos" ju-bo at msn.com> on 2005.04.08 at 02:43:10(12857)
>From: "Ralph Coppola" <raffy1@iinet.net.au>
>Reply-To: Discussion of aroids <aroid-l@gizmoworks.com>
>To: <aroid-l@gizmoworks.com>
>Subject: [Aroid-l] Alocasia identification
>Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 10:03:42 +0800

Dear Ralph,

The page comes up---"Item cancelled by e-bay", etc. Sorry!

Julius

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From: "Albert Knight" mrknight at charter.net> on 2005.04.08 at 03:35:22(12858)
Alocasia porteii

----- Original Message -----
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From: Kyle Baker kylefletcherbaker at yahoo.com> on 2005.04.08 at 04:35:44(12859)
--- Ralph Coppola wrote:

Ralph...it looks suspiciously like a Philidendron
selloum to me.....but i've not seen every Alocasia out
there..Philodendrons are $9.99 at local stores here in
maine and growing out of favor...but still a nice
plant to have....

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From: "Abrimaal Svartvinter" abrimaal at o2.pl> on 2005.04.08 at 04:40:42(12860)
Very, very tentative - it may be a cross of A.
sanderiana with any green leafed Alocasia (?????).

Marek

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From: LARIANN GARNER AROIDIAN at worldnet.att.net> on 2005.04.08 at 05:26:33(12862)
Ralph,

Looks very much like Alocasia portei. See my
http://aroidiaresearch.org/portei.htm

Regards,
LariAnn Garner

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From: "Denis Rotolante" denis at skg.com> on 2005.04.08 at 05:30:17(12863)
Title: Message

IT IS
ALOCASIA PORTII. IT IS A TALL CLUMPING VARIETY THAT GETS ABOUT 7 FEET TALL
IN MY NURSERY.

BILL ROTOLANTE

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From: Jonathan Ertelt jonathan.ertelt at vanderbilt.edu> on 2005.04.08 at 07:34:47(12864)
Title: Re: [Aroid-l] Alocasia
identification

Looks like Alocasia portei to me (is that species spelling
correct?)
Jonathan

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From: "David Broederbauer" <david.broederbauer at univie.ac.at> on 2009.03.05 at 03:25:22(19156)
Hello,
I have found an aroid at the botanical garden of Vienna, which was
classified as Xanthosoma sagittifolium. But that's wrong, I guess.
I would say its an Alocasia (basal placentation, ovules few), maybe
Alocasia macrorrhizos?
Here is the link to the pictures plus information:

http://www.botanik.univie.ac.at/morphology/morphology/scientific/scientific.htm

Any suggestion would be helpful and ,if needed, I could send more pictures
or detailed informations.

All the best,
David

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From: Peter Boyce <phymatarum at googlemail.com> on 2009.03.05 at 14:57:48(19158)
Hi David,

This is Alocasia odora. The appendix wider that the male flower zone,
glaucous spathe and oblong (not lanceolate) spathe limb are diagnostic. The
leaves of this and A. macrorrizos are similar, but A. odora is always
slightly peltate in the sinus between the posterior lobes whereas A.
macrorrizos has the posterior costae (and thus sinus) naked in adult plants
(although IS peltate in juvenile plants).

Very best

Peter

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From: "Marek Argent" <abri1973 at wp.pl> on 2009.03.05 at 15:30:45(19159)
Hello,

Alocasia odora. Note the peltate leaf blade.
http://www.wschowa.com/abrimaal/araceum/alocasia/odora1.htm

Marek Argent

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From: "Wilbert Hetterscheid" <hetter at xs4all.nl> on 2009.03.05 at 23:00:07(19160)
Hi David,

That would be Alocasia odora. I just learned that from Peter Boyce because
we have the same thing flowering here.

Cheers,
Wilbert

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From: <ju-bo at msn.com> on 2009.03.06 at 02:15:32(19162)
Dear David,

The plant in the photos is NOT a Xanthosoma sp., your suggestions are at least correct in part, it is an Alocasia species, and may well be A. macrorrhizos, but Peter Boyce may be able to be more precise on an I.D.  
A. macrorrhizos is said to be a VERY plastic species, A. ''cuculata'', A. "Sting Ray'' and several other plants are all forms of this one species, so your plant, though to me it seems a little different to A. macrorrhizos, may well be this species, the fantastic photos you provided are the clue other REAL experts on the genus will need for a positive I.D.

Good Growing,

Julius

> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 12:25:22 +0100
> From: david.broederbauer@univie.ac.at

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From: Peter Boyce <phymatarum at googlemail.com> on 2009.03.06 at 13:47:06(19164)
Hi David,

This is Alocasia odora. The appendix wider that the male flower zone,
glaucous spathe and oblong (not lanceolate) spathe limb are diagnostic. The
leaves of this and A. macrorrizos are similar, but A. odora is always
slightly peltate in the sinus between the posterior lobes whereas A.
macrorrizos has the posterior costae (and thus sinus) naked in adult plants
(although IS peltate in juvenile plants).

Very best

Peter

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From: Helmut Reisenberger <gartenbaureisenberger at web.de> on 2009.03.08 at 07:40:08(19169)
Hi David, sehr geehrter Herr Magister!

You are right, this is definetily Alocasia macrorrhiza Schott.
This misidentification in the HBV (Vienna Botanical Garden) is less embarra ssing as you realize that in all even more famous botanical collections (op en to the public) you will find this phenomena. I even have found heavy mis informations in the reknown "Palmengarten" in Franfurt (Germany). In once h ad offered them to redo the labels.
So far it is good to have a grandious source of information in the IAS, bas ed on Dr. Croat, Peter Boyce and many others. Not to forget Steve Lucas, wh o never gets tired in discussing and publishing relevant articles under "ex oticrainforest.com" .

But we should also keep in mind, that some ages ago the father of H.W.Schot t had been the head of the HBV. So this is a good chance to offer an new in itiative in Vienna to give any assistance to the ambitious folks working in and for the HBV.

Helmut

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