Alocasia identification

From: "Ralph Coppola" raffy1 at iinet.net.au> on 2005.04.08 at 02:03:42(12855) Hi everyone! Can anybody identify this aroid that I bought from eBay - http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&itemC69717957&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT Your help would be appreciated, Thank you, Ralph +More _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "Julius Boos" ju-bo at msn.com> on 2005.04.08 at 09:43:10(12857) >From: "Ralph Coppola" <raffy1@iinet.net.au> >Reply-To: Discussion of aroids <aroid-l@gizmoworks.com> >To: <aroid-l@gizmoworks.com> >Subject: [Aroid-l] Alocasia identification >Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 10:03:42 +0800 Dear Ralph, The page comes up---"Item cancelled by e-bay", etc. Sorry! Julius +More ;Hi everyone! > >Can anybody identify this aroid that I bought from eBay - >http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem ><http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&itemC69717957&s >sPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT> &rd=1&itemC69717957&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT > >Your help would be appreciated, > >Thank you, > >Ralph > > >_______________________________________________ >Aroid-l mailing list >Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com >http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "Albert Knight" mrknight at charter.net> on 2005.04.08 at 10:35:22(12858) Alocasia porteii ----- Original Message ----- From: +More Ralph Coppola To: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 10:03 PM Subject: [Aroid-l] Alocasia identification Hi everyone! Can anybody identify this aroid that I bought from eBay - http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&itemC69717957&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT Your help would be appreciated, Thank you, Ralph _______________________________________________Aroid-l mailing listAroid-l@gizmoworks.comhttp://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: Kyle Baker kylefletcherbaker at yahoo.com> on 2005.04.08 at 11:35:44(12859) --- Ralph Coppola wrote: Ralph...it looks suspiciously like a Philidendron selloum to me.....but i've not seen every Alocasia out there..Philodendrons are $9.99 at local stores here in maine and growing out of favor...but still a nice plant to have.... +More kfb __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "Abrimaal Svartvinter" abrimaal at o2.pl> on 2005.04.08 at 11:40:42(12860) Very, very tentative - it may be a cross of A. sanderiana with any green leafed Alocasia (?????). Marek +More ----- Original Message ----- From: Ralph Coppola To: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 4:03 AM Subject: [Aroid-l] Alocasia identification Hi everyone! Can anybody identify this aroid that I bought from eBay - http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&itemC69717957&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT Your help would be appreciated, Thank you, Ralph _______________________________________________Aroid-l mailing listAroid-l@gizmoworks.comhttp://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: LARIANN GARNER AROIDIAN at worldnet.att.net> on 2005.04.08 at 12:26:33(12862) Ralph, Looks very much like Alocasia portei. See my http://aroidiaresearch.org/portei.htm Regards, LariAnn Garner +More Aroidia Research Ralph Coppola wrote: Hi everyone! Can anybody identify this aroid that I bought from eBay - http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&itemC69717957&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT Your help would be appreciated, Thank you, Ralph _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "Denis Rotolante" denis at skg.com> on 2005.04.08 at 12:30:17(12863) Title: Message IT IS ALOCASIA PORTII. IT IS A TALL CLUMPING VARIETY THAT GETS ABOUT 7 FEET TALL IN MY NURSERY. BILL ROTOLANTE +More -----Original Message-----From: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Ralph CoppolaSent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 10:04 PMTo: aroid-l@gizmoworks.comSubject: [Aroid-l] Alocasia identification Hi everyone! Can anybody identify this aroid that I bought from eBay - http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&itemC69717957&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT Your help would be appreciated, Thank you, Ralph _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: Jonathan Ertelt jonathan.ertelt at vanderbilt.edu> on 2005.04.08 at 14:34:47(12864) Title: Re: [Aroid-l] Alocasia identification Looks like Alocasia portei to me (is that species spelling correct?) Jonathan +More See the fourth picture down on this site: ----- Original Message ----- Coppola To: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 4:03 AM Subject: [Aroid-l] Alocasia identification Hi everyone! Can anybody identify this aroid that I bought from eBay - http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&itemC69717957&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT Your help would be appreciated, Thank you, Ralph _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "David Broederbauer" <david.broederbauer at univie.ac.at> on 2009.03.05 at 11:25:22(19156) Hello, I have found an aroid at the botanical garden of Vienna, which was classified as Xanthosoma sagittifolium. But that's wrong, I guess. I would say its an Alocasia (basal placentation, ovules few), maybe Alocasia macrorrhizos? Here is the link to the pictures plus information: http://www.botanik.univie.ac.at/morphology/morphology/scientific/scientific.htm Any suggestion would be helpful and ,if needed, I could send more pictures or detailed informations. All the best, David +More -- Mag. David BrÃÂ ¶derbauer Faculty Center of Biodiversity Department of Palynology and Structural Botany University of Vienna Rennweg 14 A 1030 Wien Austria http://www.botanik.univie.ac.at/morphology/ Tel.:++43 1 4277 54087 Fax: ++43 1 4277 9541 _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: Peter Boyce <phymatarum at googlemail.com> on 2009.03.05 at 22:57:48(19158) Hi David, This is Alocasia odora. The appendix wider that the male flower zone, glaucous spathe and oblong (not lanceolate) spathe limb are diagnostic. The leaves of this and A. macrorrizos are similar, but A. odora is always slightly peltate in the sinus between the posterior lobes whereas A. macrorrizos has the posterior costae (and thus sinus) naked in adult plants (although IS peltate in juvenile plants). Very best Peter +More ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Broederbauer" To: Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 7:25 PM Subject: [Aroid-l] Alocasia identification > Hello, > I have found an aroid at the botanical garden of Vienna, which was > classified as Xanthosoma sagittifolium. But that's wrong, I guess. > I would say its an Alocasia (basal placentation, ovules few), maybe > Alocasia macrorrhizos? > Here is the link to the pictures plus information: > > http://www.botanik.univie.ac.at/morphology/morphology/scientific/scientific.htm > > Any suggestion would be helpful and ,if needed, I could send more pictures > or detailed informations. > > All the best, > David > > -- > Mag. David BrÃÂ ¶derbauer > Faculty Center of Biodiversity > Department of Palynology and Structural Botany > University of Vienna > Rennweg 14 > A 1030 Wien > Austria > > http://www.botanik.univie.ac.at/morphology/ > Tel.:++43 1 4277 54087 > Fax: ++43 1 4277 9541 > > _______________________________________________ > Aroid-L mailing list > Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com > http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l > _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "Marek Argent" <abri1973 at wp.pl> on 2009.03.05 at 23:30:45(19159) Hello, Alocasia odora. Note the peltate leaf blade. http://www.wschowa.com/abrimaal/araceum/alocasia/odora1.htm Marek Argent +More ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Broederbauer" To: Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 12:25 PM Subject: [Aroid-l] Alocasia identification > Hello, > I have found an aroid at the botanical garden of Vienna, which was > classified as Xanthosoma sagittifolium. But that's wrong, I guess. > I would say its an Alocasia (basal placentation, ovules few), maybe > Alocasia macrorrhizos? > Here is the link to the pictures plus information: > > http://www.botanik.univie.ac.at/morphology/morphology/scientific/scientific.htm > > Any suggestion would be helpful and ,if needed, I could send more pictures > or detailed informations. > > All the best, > David > > -- > Mag. David BrÃÂ ¶derbauer > Faculty Center of Biodiversity > Department of Palynology and Structural Botany > University of Vienna > Rennweg 14 > A 1030 Wien > Austria > > http://www.botanik.univie.ac.at/morphology/ > Tel.:++43 1 4277 54087 > Fax: ++43 1 4277 9541 > > _______________________________________________ > Aroid-L mailing list > Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com > http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l > _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "Wilbert Hetterscheid" <hetter at xs4all.nl> on 2009.03.06 at 07:00:07(19160) Hi David, That would be Alocasia odora. I just learned that from Peter Boyce because we have the same thing flowering here. Cheers, Wilbert +More > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com > [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] Namens David Broederbauer > Verzonden: donderdag 5 maart 2009 12:25 > Aan: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com > Onderwerp: [Aroid-l] Alocasia identification > > Hello, > I have found an aroid at the botanical garden of Vienna, > which was classified as Xanthosoma sagittifolium. But that's > wrong, I guess. > I would say its an Alocasia (basal placentation, ovules few), > maybe Alocasia macrorrhizos? > Here is the link to the pictures plus information: > > http://www.botanik.univie.ac.at/morphology/morphology/scientif > ic/scientific.htm > > Any suggestion would be helpful and ,if needed, I could send > more pictures or detailed informations. > > All the best, > David > > -- > Mag. David Bröderbauer > Faculty Center of Biodiversity > Department of Palynology and Structural Botany University of > Vienna Rennweg 14 A 1030 Wien Austria > > http://www.botanik.univie.ac.at/morphology/ > Tel.:++43 1 4277 54087 > Fax: ++43 1 4277 9541 > > _______________________________________________ > Aroid-L mailing list > Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com > http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l > > _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: <ju-bo at msn.com> on 2009.03.06 at 10:15:32(19162) Dear David, The plant in the photos is NOT a Xanthosoma sp., your suggestions are at least correct in part, it is an Alocasia species, and may well be A. macrorrhizos, but Peter Boyce may be able to be more precise on an I.D.   A. macrorrhizos is said to be a VERY plastic species, A. ''cuculata'', A. "Sting Ray'' and several other plants are all forms of this one species, so your plant, though to me it seems a little different to A. macrorrhizos, may well be this species, the fantastic photos you provided are the clue other REAL experts on the genus will need for a positive I.D. Good Growing, Julius > Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 12:25:22 +0100 > From: david.broederbauer@univie.ac.at HTML +More > To: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com > Subject: [Aroid-l] Alocasia identification > > Hello, > I have found an aroid at the botanical garden of Vienna, which was > classified as Xanthosoma sagittifolium. But that's wrong, I guess. > I would say its an Alocasia (basal placentation, ovules few), maybe > Alocasia macrorrhizos? > Here is the link to the pictures plus information: > > http://www.botanik.univie.ac.at/morphology/morphology/scientific/scientific.htm > > Any suggestion would be helpful and ,if needed, I could send more pictures > or detailed informations. > > All the best, > David > > -- > Mag. David Bröderbauer > Faculty Center of Biodiversity > Department of Palynology and Structural Botany > University of Vienna > Rennweg 14 > A 1030 Wien > Austria > > http://www.botanik.univie.ac.at/morphology/ > Tel.:++43 1 4277 54087 > Fax: ++43 1 4277 9541 > > _______________________________________________ > Aroid-L mailing list > Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com > http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l --_46323782-2241-4a0f-a35a-40e0a605c759_----==============f48418686529962410=

From: Peter Boyce <phymatarum at googlemail.com> on 2009.03.06 at 21:47:06(19164) Hi David, This is Alocasia odora. The appendix wider that the male flower zone, glaucous spathe and oblong (not lanceolate) spathe limb are diagnostic. The leaves of this and A. macrorrizos are similar, but A. odora is always slightly peltate in the sinus between the posterior lobes whereas A. macrorrizos has the posterior costae (and thus sinus) naked in adult plants (although IS peltate in juvenile plants). Very best Peter +More > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Broederbauer" > To: > Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 7:25 PM > Subject: [Aroid-l] Alocasia identification > > >> Hello, >> I have found an aroid at the botanical garden of Vienna, which was >> classified as Xanthosoma sagittifolium. But that's wrong, I guess. >> I would say its an Alocasia (basal placentation, ovules few), maybe >> Alocasia macrorrhizos? >> Here is the link to the pictures plus information: >> >> http://www.botanik.univie.ac.at/morphology/morphology/scientific/scientific.htm >> >> Any suggestion would be helpful and ,if needed, I could send more >> pictures >> or detailed informations. >> >> All the best, >> David >> >> -- >> Mag. David BrÃÂ ¶derbauer >> Faculty Center of Biodiversity >> Department of Palynology and Structural Botany >> University of Vienna >> Rennweg 14 >> A 1030 Wien >> Austria >> >> http://www.botanik.univie.ac.at/morphology/ >> Tel.:++43 1 4277 54087 >> Fax: ++43 1 4277 9541 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Aroid-L mailing list >> Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com >> http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l >> > _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: Helmut Reisenberger <gartenbaureisenberger at web.de> on 2009.03.08 at 14:40:08(19169) Hi David, sehr geehrter Herr Magister! You are right, this is definetily Alocasia macrorrhiza Schott. This misidentification in the HBV (Vienna Botanical Garden) is less embarra ssing as you realize that in all even more famous botanical collections (op en to the public) you will find this phenomena. I even have found heavy mis informations in the reknown "Palmengarten" in Franfurt (Germany). In once h ad offered them to redo the labels. So far it is good to have a grandious source of information in the IAS, bas ed on Dr. Croat, Peter Boyce and many others. Not to forget Steve Lucas, wh o never gets tired in discussing and publishing relevant articles under "ex oticrainforest.com" . But we should also keep in mind, that some ages ago the father of H.W.Schot t had been the head of the HBV. So this is a good chance to offer an new in itiative in Vienna to give any assistance to the ambitious folks working in and for the HBV. Helmut +More > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: "David Broederbauer" > Gesendet: 05.03.09 23:25:35 > An: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com > Betreff: [Aroid-l] Alocasia identification > Hello, > I have found an aroid at the botanical garden of Vienna, which was > classified as Xanthosoma sagittifolium. But that's wrong, I guess. > I would say its an Alocasia (basal placentation, ovules few), maybe > Alocasia macrorrhizos? > Here is the link to the pictures plus information: > > http://www.botanik.univie.ac.at/morphology/morphology/scientific/scientif ic.htm > > Any suggestion would be helpful and ,if needed, I could send more pictures > or detailed informations. > > All the best, > David > > -- > Mag. David Bröderbauer > Faculty Center of Biodiversity > Department of Palynology and Structural Botany > University of Vienna > Rennweg 14 > A 1030 Wien > Austria > > http://www.botanik.univie.ac.at/morphology/ > Tel.:++43 1 4277 54087 > Fax: ++43 1 4277 9541 > > _______________________________________________ > Aroid-L mailing list > Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com > http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l > _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

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