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  Philodendron ID?
From: "steve" sehatfield at insightbb.com> on 2006.05.19 at 21:00:57(14232)
Hello all

I purchased a nice probably very common Philodendron at a
master gardener’s plant sale this weekend for $6.00 and I was hoping someone
might be able to help me give it a name. Attached are some pics.
There is a dollar bill to show the size of the largest leaf. It was
growing on a sun porch and the person said she has had it for 3 years and it
had only one leaf when she got it.

Thanks Steve

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From: Tom Vincze philofan at philodendron.org> on 2006.05.20 at 06:26:54(14237)
This looks to me like the self-heading p. "Show Boat", which is a sport of p. xanadu. I have one indoors and it makes a robust plant, a fast grower and not fussy. It looks really impressive as it grows and the trunk lengthens.Here is a description:http://montereybaynsy.com/P.htm?Showboat? -- on left, compared to Xanadu on right -- a compact landscape type similar to P. selloum, it is a sport of ?Xanadu.? Grows to about 4' tall and handles sun better than its sport parent. It grows more upright and the leaves also get larger, to about 18" tall under favorable conditions (shade, moisture, fertilizer). Like its parent, it seems to handle frost about like P. selloum, around 20?F or USDA zone 9/Sunset zone 15 and higher. Best with shade to part sun, regular watering and feeding, and at least average drainage. It will tolerate some dryness when established and always makes a great, compact outdoor container alternative to P. selloum. rev 8/02Regards,Tom Vincze Hello all?I purchased a nice probably very common Phil
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From: "Abrimaal" abrimaal at wp.pl> on 2006.05.20 at 12:35:23(14240)
Hello,

Looks like Ph. radiatum, but the red veins make
this ID a little doubtful.

Greetings

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From: "Bluesea" chammer at cfl.rr.com> on 2006.05.21 at 02:41:50(14243)
Steve, is this a self-heading, semi self-heading or
vining Philodendron??? If it's
vining, I think it could be P. mayoii. The reddish parts of the leaf are typical of
mayoii. We really need to know the growth
habit of this Philo to make an attempt at an ID.

Russ

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From: "Julius Boos" ju-bo at msn.com> on 2006.05.21 at 13:33:34(14248)
Reply-To : Discussion of aroids
Sent : Sunday, May 21, 2006 2:41 AM
To : "Discussion of aroids"
Subject : Re: [Aroid-l] Philodendron ID?

Dear All,

I agree w/ Russ, the question we need an answer to concerns it either being
a vining OR a self-heading species. I too questioned the ID as being P.
xanadu "showboat' as I THOUGHT I saw a vining Philodendron, not a
'self-header' in the original photo. (I have deleted the original e-mail w/
the querry, as I am not good at I.D.`ing vining Philos.).
Dr. Croat, any ideas?

Julius

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From: "Steve Hatfield" sehatfield at insightbb.com> on 2006.05.21 at 15:26:27(14251)
I would have to say self-heading or semi
self-heading (thanks for the explanation of self-heading Tom) the tag on it
said “tree Philodendron” It appears that after some more time it
will make “trunks”. It does appear to possibly be “showboat”.
Does showboat get reddish on the back of the leaves?

Thanks Steve

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From: Tom Vincze philofan at philodendron.org> on 2006.05.21 at 16:56:23(14254)
On my Showboat it indeed has some red coloration where the petiole joins the leaf blade. The leaf itself is green however.Regards,Tom Vincze ?I would have to say self-heading or semi self-heading (thanks for the explanation of self-heading Tom) the tag on it said ?tree Philodendron? It appears that after some more time it will make ?trunks?.? It does appear to possibly be ?showboat?. Does showboat get reddish on the back of the leaves??Thanks Steve From: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Bluesea Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 10:42 PM To: Discussion of aroids Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Philodendron ID? ? Steve, is this a self-heading, semi self-heading or vining Philodendron???? If it's vining,?I?think?it could be?P. mayoii.? The reddish parts of the leaf are typical of mayoii.? We really need to know the growth habit of this Philo to make an attempt at an ID. ? Russ central Fla -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Vers
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From: "Tropicals" Tropicals at SolutionsAnalysis.net> on 2006.05.22 at 16:58:19(14276)
Hello Group, long time…
WRITING about Philodendron ID encouraged me to attach pictures of a Philodendron
hybrid obtained at Fairchild in Miami
just before Hurricane Andrew. Vining growth and the leaves convert to
green, whereas the midrib maintains the pinkish tones along with puckering.

CAN ANYONE POSITIVELY ID? If the
attachments do not come through, please write me off aroid-l forum and I would
be happy to send them to you directly.

Christian

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From: "?goston J?nos" agoston.janos at citromail.hu> on 2006.05.23 at 09:03:03(14287)
Dear Christian,

I found the folowing 2 pictures on the net. (If
they help...) Unfortunately without epitheton...

Philodendron 'Prince of Orange' and 'Autumn' these pictures are
idealised, after

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From: "Craig Presnell" jcpresnell at earthlink.net> on 2006.05.23 at 11:20:42(14289)
You know, there are still a number of us out here with dial-up service. Is there any reason pictures can't be kept to 100K, other sites have that or similar limits.

Craig

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From: "Denis Rotolante" denis at skg.com> on 2006.05.23 at 12:22:40(14290)
Title: Message

It
looks like philodendron Prince of Orange.

Bill Rotolante

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From: "?goston J?nos" agoston.janos at citromail.hu> on 2006.05.23 at 15:11:40(14292)
I have dial up too...

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From: "Bluesea" chammer at cfl.rr.com> on 2006.05.24 at 00:14:06(14300)
I too thought Christian's pictures looked
like one of the small hybrid self-headers like 'Autumn', 'Prince of Orange',
etc. But Christian says his Philo is
a vining type. Perhaps there
is a short self-heading stem simulating a 'vine' that is confusing the
issue.

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From: "Tropicals" Tropicals at SolutionsAnalysis.net> on 2006.05.24 at 01:30:03(14301)
Thanks for the comments Russ. …and
you don’t remember Christian being female? memory jog…

It is definitely not the “autumn”,
“prince of orange” as I have and am growing them. This leaf
has strong puckering at the midrib and is all but pointed at the tip.

It is definitely considered more
self-heading growth habit but given the thickness of the cane and age of this
specimen, it takes on a very short internode somewhat vining habit. The
underside midrib retains the dark pink / red hue and there is evidence of pink
which remains on the margin of the leaves. The underside of the leaf retains a
much lighter green than the top side.

Hope this assists in reaching a proper
ID.

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From: "Eduardo Goncalves" edggon at hotmail.com> on 2006.05.24 at 14:58:47(14304)
Dear Steve,

As Julius already pointed out, it is a Philodendron from the subgenus
Meconostigma (self-heading Philo), like P. bipinnatifidum (including
"selloum"), P. mello-barretoanum, etc. In my opinion, it is a dwarf form of
a regular species with bipinnatifid leaf blade (P. mello-barretoanum, P.
lundii or P. bipinnatifidum). I couldn't see the squamules (small persistent
or deciduous thorns within leaf sheath) in detail at the stem, so I don't
know exactly from which species this misfit came. If I had a closer picture
of the stem, I can say exactly from which species it came.

Very best wishes,

Eduardo.

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From: "Denis Rotolante" denis at skg.com> on 2006.05.24 at 15:06:18(14305)
Title: Message

I
looks like prince of orange for sure. I grow autumn, moonlight and prince
of orange by the thousands and from the picture you can tell it looks exactly
like what prince of orange looks like if you grow it in very low light. It
streches out and looks like a vine. Autumn and moonlight will do the same
thing when they get overgrown in too low a light area. It could also
be a sport of prince of orange but it is deffinatly in its backround. We
get mutations all the time of those philodendrons since they are so mass
produced in the lab.

Bill Rotolante

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