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Amorphophallus ID please
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From: "StroWi at t-online.de" <StroWi at t-online.de> on 2007.06.21 at 19:27:01(15805)
Aroiders,
in the German "ExotenForum" there is a speculation going on which
Amorphophallus species this might be.
See the picture in post #153
http://www.exoten-forum.de/vb/showthread.php?t206&page
or see the picture directly here:
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z115/Digitalrhythm/Amorphophalluscf.jpg
The plant was labeled as A. hildebrandtii but it is doubted that this is
correct.
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Other suggestions based on the leaf are so far:
A. venustus, A. taurostigma, A. pendulus
What do you think?
Or maybe Lord P.(hantom) could send a flash of enlightment up from the
catcombs
under the opera in the Lower Lands ;-)
Cheers,
Bernhard.
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From: "D. Christopher Rogers" <crogers at ecoanalysts.com> on 2007.06.21 at 22:58:11(15806)
Looks vaguely like A. taurostigma.
D. Christopher Rogers
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To: aroid-L
Subject: [Aroid-l] Amorphophallus ID please
Aroiders,
in the German "ExotenForum" there is a speculation going on which
Amorphophallus species this might be.
See the picture in post #153
http://www.exoten-forum.de/vb/showthread.php?t206&page
or see the picture directly here:
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z115/Digitalrhythm/Amorphophalluscf.jpg
The plant was labeled as A. hildebrandtii but it is doubted that this is
correct.
Other suggestions based on the leaf are so far:
A. venustus, A. taurostigma, A. pendulus
What do you think?
Or maybe Lord P.(hantom) could send a flash of enlightment up from the
catcombs
under the opera in the Lower Lands ;-)
Cheers,
Bernhard.
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From: Geoffrey Kibby <fieldmycol at yahoo.co.uk> on 2007.06.21 at 23:41:54(15807)
Hi there,
I have some of the same species, they were imported by a cactus/
succulent dealer here in the UK from Madagascar and labelled as A.
hildebrandtii and all have that distinctive white central vein on the
leaf. The stem is mottled very much like konjac, mine are about 2-3
years old now so should flower soon I hope!
Regards,
Geoffrey
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London
On 21 Jun 2007, at 20:27, StroWi@t-online.de wrote:
Aroiders,
in the German "ExotenForum" there is a speculation going on which
Amorphophallus species this might be.
See the picture in post #153
http://www.exoten-forum.de/vb/showthread.php?t206&page
or see the picture directly here:
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z115/Digitalrhythm/
Amorphophalluscf.jpg
The plant was labeled as A. hildebrandtii but it is doubted that
this is
correct.
Other suggestions based on the leaf are so far:
A. venustus, A. taurostigma, A. pendulus
What do you think?
Or maybe Lord P.(hantom) could send a flash of enlightment up from the
catcombs
under the opera in the Lower Lands ;-)
Cheers,
Bernhard.
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From: "StroWi at t-online.de" <StroWi at t-online.de> on 2007.06.22 at 05:55:54(15809)
Thanks for your input, Christopher and Geoffrey.
@Geoffrey: Interesting coincidence(?) - BulbTom (Thomas) from the
Exotenforum got his from a cactus dealer , too (Uhlig , Germany).
Probably the same source then.....
Aroiders, any more comments?
Looking forward to.....
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Happy identifying,
Bernhard.
Dollbergen, Germany
USAD Zone 7
-----Original Message-----
> Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 01:41:54 +0200
> Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Amorphophallus ID please
> From: Geoffrey Kibby
> To: Discussion of aroids
> Hi there,
>
> I have some of the same species, they were imported by a cactus/
> succulent dealer here in the UK from Madagascar and labelled as A.
> hildebrandtii and all have that distinctive white central vein on the
> leaf. The stem is mottled very much like konjac, mine are about 2-3
> years old now so should flower soon I hope!
>
> Regards,
> Geoffrey
> London
>
> On 21 Jun 2007, at 20:27, StroWi@t-online.de wrote:
>
>
> > Aroiders,
> >
> > in the German "ExotenForum" there is a speculation going on which
> > Amorphophallus species this might be.
> >
> > See the picture in post #153
> > http://www.exoten-forum.de/vb/showthread.php?t206&page
> >
> > or see the picture directly here:
> > http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z115/Digitalrhythm/
> > Amorphophalluscf.jpg
> >
> > The plant was labeled as A. hildebrandtii but it is doubted that
> > this is
> > correct.
> >
> > Other suggestions based on the leaf are so far:
> > A. venustus, A. taurostigma, A. pendulus
> >
> > What do you think?
> > Or maybe Lord P.(hantom) could send a flash of enlightment up from
> > the catcombs
> > under the opera in the Lower Lands ;-)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Bernhard.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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From: "Wilbert Hetterscheid" <hetter at xs4all.nl> on 2007.06.22 at 06:10:50(15810)
It is A. taurostigma. Several forms of this have the white midvein.
Cheerio,
Lord P.
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> [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] Namens StroWi@t-online.de
> Verzonden: donderdag 21 juni 2007 21:27
> Aan: aroid-L
> Onderwerp: [Aroid-l] Amorphophallus ID please
>
> Aroiders,
>
> in the German "ExotenForum" there is a speculation going on
> which Amorphophallus species this might be.
>
> See the picture in post #153
> http://www.exoten-forum.de/vb/showthread.php?t206&page
>
> or see the picture directly here:
> http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z115/Digitalrhythm/Amorphop
> halluscf.jpg
>
> The plant was labeled as A. hildebrandtii but it is doubted
> that this is correct.
>
> Other suggestions based on the leaf are so far:
> A. venustus, A. taurostigma, A. pendulus
>
> What do you think?
> Or maybe Lord P.(hantom) could send a flash of enlightment up
> from the catcombs under the opera in the Lower Lands ;-)
>
> Cheers,
> Bernhard.
>
>
>
>
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From: "StroWi at t-online.de" <StroWi at t-online.de> on 2007.06.22 at 08:04:24(15813)
My dear Lord P.(lantaxonomist),
thank you, too!
I'll forward your information to BulbTom.....
Best,
Bernhard.
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Dollbergen, Lower Saxony, Germany
USAD zone 7
-----Original Message-----
> Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 08:10:50 +0200
> Subject: RE: [Aroid-l] Amorphophallus ID please
> From: "Wilbert Hetterscheid"
> To: "'Discussion of aroids'"
> It is A. taurostigma. Several forms of this have the white midvein.
>
> Cheerio,
> Lord P.
>
> > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > Van: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com
> > [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] Namens StroWi@t-online.de
> > Verzonden: donderdag 21 juni 2007 21:27
> > Aan: aroid-L
> > Onderwerp: [Aroid-l] Amorphophallus ID please
> >
> > Aroiders,
> >
> > in the German "ExotenForum" there is a speculation going on
> > which Amorphophallus species this might be.
> >
> > See the picture in post #153
> > http://www.exoten-forum.de/vb/showthread.php?t206&page
> >
> > or see the picture directly here:
> > http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z115/Digitalrhythm/Amorphop
> > halluscf.jpg
> >
> > The plant was labeled as A. hildebrandtii but it is doubted
> > that this is correct.
> >
> > Other suggestions based on the leaf are so far:
> > A. venustus, A. taurostigma, A. pendulus
> >
> > What do you think?
> > Or maybe Lord P.(hantom) could send a flash of enlightment up
> > from the catcombs under the opera in the Lower Lands ;-)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Bernhard.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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From: "StroWi at t-online.de" <StroWi at t-online.de> on 2009.08.04 at 06:54:02(19624)
Amorphophiles,
wehad an inqury in our German Amorphophallusforum; hope you can see thepics...
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http://www.amorphophallus-forum.de/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=566
I would suggest an unusual clone ofkonjak.
Agreements- diagreements?
Happy identifying,
Bernhard.
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From: "Marek Argent" <abri1973 at wp.pl> on 2009.08.04 at 19:27:09(19629)
Hello,
I think it's A. konjac, though the rippled appendix is a little deceiving.
Marek
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From: StroWi@t-online.de
To: aroid-L
Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 8:54 AM
Subject: [Aroid-l] Amorphophallus ID please
Amorphophiles,
we had an inqury in our German Amorphophallusforum; hope you can see the pics...
http://www.amorphophallus-forum.de/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=566
I would suggest an unusual clone of konjak.
Agreements- diagreements?
Happy identifying,
Bernhard.
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From: caw ming <tks4ady at yahoo.com> on 2009.08.07 at 13:30:18(19655)
Hi, oh, it's konjac? i find it in Sumatra. thanx for the ID.
Hello,
I think it's A. konjac, though the rippled appendix is a little deceiving.
Marek
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Amorphophiles,
we had an inqury in our German Amorphophallusforum; hope you can see the pics...
http://www.amorphophallus-forum.de/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=566
I would suggest an unusual clone of konjak.
Agreements- diagreements?
Happy identifying,
Bernhard.
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From: "Marek Argent" <abri1973 at wp.pl> on 2009.08.08 at 20:11:45(19665)
Hello Bernhard,
In this page
http://www.wschowa.com/abrimaal/araceum/amorphophallus/konjac.htm
you can see how variable can be A. konjac inflorescences.
Marek
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----- Original Message -----
From: StroWi@t-online.de
To: Discussion of aroids
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 3:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Amorphophallus ID please
Marek,
thanks for yur reply!
I would be grateful for some more suggestions before I cite your input in our Grerman Amorphophallusforum.
Happy IDing,
Bernhard.
-----Original Message-----
> Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 21:27:09 +0200
> Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Amorphophallus ID please
> From: "Marek Argent"
> To: "Discussion of aroids"
>
Hello,
I think it's A. konjac, though the rippled appendix is a little deceiving.
Marek
----- Original Message -----
From: StroWi@t-online.de
To: aroid-L
Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 8:54 AM
Subject: [Aroid-l] Amorphophallus ID please
Amorphophiles,
we had an inqury in our German Amorphophallusforum; hope you can see the pics...
http://www.amorphophallus-forum.de/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=566
I would suggest an unusual clone of konjak.
Agreements- diagreements?
Happy identifying,
Bernhard.
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From: "Christopher Rogers" <crogers at ecoanalysts.com> on 2009.09.11 at 02:48:53(19994)
Greetings,all!
Ineed some help with an ID. I was given this tuber as an unknown Amorphophallus.It has bloomed, but I have not seen a leaf as of yet. I apologize for the poorphotos . . . I had to borrow a camera as mine was elsewhere. The petiole is atan/brown with black and white spots. The entire plant above ground is about 45cm tall. When evening was falling it began to emit a most powerful rotting flesh/bad cheese odor. Very sharp.
Anyhelp would be appreciated.
Thanksin advance,
Christopher
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From: "Wilbert Hetterscheid" <hetter at xs4all.nl> on 2009.09.11 at 05:40:44(19996)
My guess is Am. variabilis.
As a general point to everyone who wants an Amorphophallus identified,
please, cut the spathe away on the frontside and make pictures of the
naughty bits (this goes for many more Araceae!!).
Cheers,
WIlbert
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> Greetings, all!
>
>
>
> I need some help with an ID. I was given this tuber as an unknown
> Amorphophallus. It has bloomed, but I have not seen a leaf as of yet. I
> apologize for the poor photos . . . I had to borrow a camera as mine was
> elsewhere. The petiole is a tan/brown with black and white spots. The
> entire
> plant above ground is about 45 cm tall. When evening was falling it began
> to
> emit a most powerful rotting flesh/ bad cheese odor. Very sharp.
>
>
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Christopher
>
>
>
> D. Christopher Rogers
>
> Senior Invertebrate Ecologist/ Taxonomist
>
> ((,///////////=======<
>
>
>
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>
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From: "Christopher Rogers" <crogers at ecoanalysts.com> on 2009.09.11 at 17:35:24(20002)
Thank you, Wilbert!
Okay, here are some better pictures. One with the cutaway spathe. In case it is not obvious, the spathe has a deep red/purple/browncolouration at the spathe limb base, inside the inflorescence. I hope thesewill assist you in the ID.
Thank you for your time,
Christopher
D.Christopher Rogers
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SeniorInvertebrate Ecologist/ Taxonomist
((,///////////======= Greetings, all!
>
>
>
> I need some help with an ID. I was given this tuberas an unknown
> Amorphophallus. It has bloomed, but I have not seena leaf as of yet. I
> apologize for the poor photos . . . I had to borrowa camera as mine was
> elsewhere. The petiole is a tan/brown with black andwhite spots. The
> entire
> plant above ground is about 45 cm tall. When eveningwas falling it began
> to
> emit a most powerful rotting flesh/ bad cheese odor.Very sharp.
>
>
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Christopher
>
>
>
> D. Christopher Rogers
>
> Senior Invertebrate Ecologist/ Taxonomist
>
> ((,///////////=======
>
>
> EcoAnalysts, Inc.
>
> 1.530.383.4798
>
> P.O. Box 4098
>
> Davis, CA 95616
>
> USA
>
>
>
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From: Bobby McGehe <bobbymcgehe at bellsouth.net> on 2009.09.12 at 18:53:05(20010)
Christopher
It is A. variabilis......
Bobby
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From: Christopher Rogers
To: Discussion of aroids
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 1:35:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Amorphophallus ID please
Thank you, Wilbert!
Okay, here are some better pictures. One with the cut away spathe. In case it is not obvious, the spathe has a deep red/purple/brown colouration at the spathe limb base, inside the inflorescence. I hope these will assist you in the ID.
Thank you for your time,
Christopher
D. Christopher Rogers
Senior Invertebrate Ecologist/ Taxonomist
((,///////////======= Greetings, all!
>
>
>
> I need some help with an ID. I was given this tuber as an unknown
> Amorphophallus. It has bloomed, but I have not seen a leaf as of yet. I
> apologize for the poor photos . . . I had to borrow a camera as mine was
> elsewhere. The petiole is a tan/brown with black and white spots. The
> entire
> plant above ground is about 45 cm tall. When evening was falling it began
> to
> emit a most powerful rotting flesh/ bad cheese odor. Very sharp.
>
>
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Christopher
>
>
>
> D. Christopher Rogers
>
> Senior Invertebrate Ecologist/ Taxonomist
>
> ((,///////////=======<
>
>
>
> EcoAnalysts, Inc.
>
> 1.530.383.4798
>
> P.O. Box 4098
>
> Davis, CA 95616
>
> USA
>
>
>
> Invertebrate Taxonomy
>
> Endangered Species
>
> Ecological Studies
>
> Bioassessment
>
> Invasive Species
>
> Plankton
>
> Phycology
>
> IDAHO CALIFORNIA MISSOURI PENNSYLVANIA VANCOUVER
>
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From: "Christopher Rogers" <CRogers at ecoanalysts.com> on 2009.09.14 at 15:40:13(20028)
Thank you, Bobby!
D. Christopher Rogers
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From: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com on behalf of Bobby McGehe
Sent: Sat 12-Sep-09 11:53 AM
To: Discussion of aroids
Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Amorphophallus ID please
Christopher
It is A. variabilis......
Bobby
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From: Christopher Rogers
To: Discussion of aroids
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 1:35:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Amorphophallus ID please
Thank you, Wilbert!
Okay, here are some better pictures. One with the cut away spathe. In case it is not obvious, the spathe has a deep red/purple/brown colouration at the spathe limb base, inside the inflorescence. I hope these will assist you in the ID.
Thank you for your time,
Christopher
D. Christopher Rogers
Senior Invertebrate Ecologist/ Taxonomist
((,///////////=======<
EcoAnalysts, Inc.
1.530.383.4798
P.O. Box 4098
Davis, CA 95616
USA
Invertebrate Taxonomy
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Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Amorphophallus ID please
My guess is Am. variabilis.
As a general point to everyone who wants an Amorphophallus identified,
please, cut the spathe away on the frontside and make pictures of the
naughty bits (this goes for many more Araceae!!).
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> elsewhere. The petiole is a tan/brown with black and white spots. The
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> plant above ground is about 45 cm tall. When evening was falling it began
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From: "StroWi at t-online.de" <StroWi at t-online.de> on 2010.01.15 at 08:55:33(20477)
Amorphophiles,
wouldsomeone recognise the species of this plant growing in the National ParkKao Sokn in Thiland?
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The petiiole is smooth; Iwould guess paeonifolius, but I am not sure.
Happy ID-ing,
Bernhard.
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From: "StroWi at t-online.de" <StroWi at t-online.de> on 2010.01.27 at 09:38:01(20517)
Aroiders,
regardingmy ID request
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( http://www.aroid.org/aroidl-archive/showthread.php?post=20511 )
I got a private mail from our beloved LordP.(lanttaxonomist) who did not reply via the aroid-L since he was notsure about the ID.
It cannot be said from thatpicture wether it is paeonifolius or not; other possibilities could bemuellerii or a big yunnanensis.
Happygrowing,
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From: "StroWi at t-online.de" <StroWi at t-online.de>
on 2011.06.16 at 13:39:54(22110)
style="margin:0px;">Amorphophiles,
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would
somebody recognise the species from the attached pictures?
style="margin:0px;">The basic colour of the petiole is variable from
green to reddish, but it always has the big white spots.
style="margin:0px;">The seeds were bought in spring via ebay from the
seller squeaky-buffalo as paeonifolius, it's obviously not
paeonifolius.
Or could it be the paeonifolius
with the smooth "stem"? (I guess not.....)
style="margin:0px;">Happy id-ing,
style="margin:0px;">Bernhard.
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From: Michael Pascall <mickpascall at hotmail.com>
on 2011.06.17 at 05:24:45(22112)
Why do you say it's not paeoniifolius ? note ii ..
some spp. have several different forms of coloured stems .
you will have to wait until it flowers before doubting ..
It could possibly be a hybrid if it was seed .
Michael Pascall,
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 15:39:54 +0200
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Subject: [Aroid-l] Amorphophallus ID please
Amorphophiles,
would
somebody recognise the species from the attached pictures?
The basic colour of the petiole is variable from
green to reddish, but it always has the big white spots.
The seeds were bought in spring via ebay from the
seller squeaky-buffalo as paeonifolius, it's obviously not
paeonifolius.
Or could it be the paeonifolius
with the smooth "stem"? (I guess not.....)
Happy id-ing,
Bernhard.
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From: Peter Boyce <phymatarum at googlemail.com>
on 2011.06.17 at 08:11:38(22114)
Not all clones of A. paeoniifolius has the charactersitic roughened petiole.
On 17 June 2011 13:24, Michael Pascall wrote:
Why do you say it's not paeoniifolius ? note ii ..
some spp. have several different forms of coloured stems .
you will have to wait until it flowers before doubting ..
It could possibly be a hybrid if it was seed .
Michael Pascall,
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 15:39:54 +0200
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Subject: [Aroid-l] Amorphophallus ID please
Amorphophiles,
would somebody recognise the species from the attached pictures?
The basic colour of the petiole is variable from green to reddish, but it always has the big white spots.
The seeds were bought in spring via ebay from the seller squeaky-buffalo as paeonifolius, it's obviously not paeonifolius.
Or could it be the paeonifolius with the smooth "stem"? (I guess not.....)
Happy id-ing,
Bernhard.
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From: "Wilbert Hetterscheid" <hetter at xs4all.nl>
on 2011.06.17 at 09:34:55(22115)
I would not discount paeoniifolius smooth, apart from the fact that smaller and younger plants of this species may be smooth and at a later age warty. The red colouration in it may also point to koratensis......... Often mistaken for paeoniifolius when in leaf.
Cheers,
Wilbert
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Amorphophiles,
would somebody recognise the species from the attached pictures?
The basic colour of the petiole is variable from green to reddish, but it always has the big white spots.
The seeds were bought in spring via ebay from the seller squeaky-buffalo as paeonifolius, it's obviously not paeonifolius.
Or could it be the paeonifolius with the smooth "stem"? (I guess not.....)
Happy id-ing,
Bernhard.
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From: Zanezirklejr at aol.com
on 2011.06.17 at 15:18:29(22116)
I'm not sure, the closest thing to yours in my collection is amorphophallus kiusianus, with the white spot. I have 2 medium paeoniifolius plants and neither look like your photo.
In a message dated 6/17/2011 1:03:28 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, StroWi@t-online.de writes:
Amorphophiles,
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would somebody recognise the species from the attached pictures?
The basic colour of the petiole is variable from green to reddish, but it always has the big white spots.
The seeds were bought in spring via ebay from the seller squeaky-buffalo as paeonifolius, it's obviously not paeonifolius.
Or could it be the paeonifolius with the smooth "stem"? (I guess not.....)
Happy id-ing,
Bernhard.
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From: Susan B <honeybunny442 at yahoo.com>
on 2011.06.20 at 12:35:01(22120)
Bernhard,
I felt sure I was growing or had grown this plant, the photo looked so familiar, although I couldn't think of the name of it. This morning I realized I had probably seen almost the same photo on ebay, there is a Thai seller that photographs petioles and sells Amorphophallus sp. that way.
I also came across sp. AGA-043, which has red on the petiole, but I don't know it's true name (I'm looking through old photos).
It really doesn't look like paeoniifolius to me.
Susan Bryant
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Michael,
thanks for the reply.
Actually the plant is not mine,
but belongs to a fellow aroider of our German http://www.amorphophallus-forum.de/ , post # http://www.amorphophallus-forum.de/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=1548&sid=99672338838cf8fc65c3d7932ebb833b ;you have to be registered to see the pics, that's why I posted the pictures directly.
He suspected that is not paeonifolius, maybe due to the variation in the basic colour of the petiole and in comparison to the paeonifolius he has seen before.
I myself grow two seed raised plants which look identical (see attached pic, the big plant in the center) and, I guess, pretty typical for the wild type paeonifolius (rough petiole, glossy upper leaf surface).
Regarding the seedling from my fellow aroider - so you would say it fits with the described traits (smooth "stem", bacis petiole colour from green to reddish, allways with big white spots) in the variation seen in paeonifolius?
Any more comments from others?
Happy commenting, Bernhard.
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> Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Amorphophallus ID please
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Why do you say it's not paeoniifolius ? note ii ..
some spp. have several different forms of coloured stems .
you will have to wait until it flowers before doubting ..
It could possibly be a hybrid if it was seed .
Michael Pascall,
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 15:39:54 +0200
To: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com
From: StroWi@t-online.de
Subject: [Aroid-l] Amorphophallus ID please
Amorphophiles,
would somebody recognise the species from the attached pictures?
The basic colour of the petiole is variable from green to reddish, but it always has the big white spots.
The seeds were bought in spring via ebay from the seller squeaky-buffalo as paeonifolius, it's obviously not paeonifolius.
Or could it be the paeonifolius with the smooth "stem"? (I guess not.....)
Happy id-ing,
Bernhard.
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From: Marco Motta <marco.giovanni.motta at gmail.com>
on 2011.06.20 at 06:14:31(22121)
I have sowed about two years ago 100 seeds of Am. paeonifolius found on Ebay, I have 6 black stem and about 20 different petiole/stem, I do not know if could be variation or cotamination during pollination, but this year, the third, the variation has reduced to 4 type, maybe it is common variation on seedlings, like happen in many other plants.
BR
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I'm not sure, the closest thing to yours in my collection is amorphophallus kiusianus, with the white spot. I have 2 medium paeoniifolius plants and neither look like your photo.
In a message dated 6/17/2011 1:03:28 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, StroWi@t-online.de writes:
Amorphophiles,
would somebody recognise the species from the attached pictures?
The basic colour of the petiole is variable from green to reddish, but it always has the big white spots.
The seeds were bought in spring via ebay from the seller squeaky-buffalo as paeonifolius, it's obviously not paeonifolius.
Or could it be the paeonifolius with the smooth "stem"? (I guess not.....)
Happy id-ing,
Bernhard.
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From: Susan B <honeybunny442 at yahoo.com>
on 2011.06.21 at 04:22:32(22131)
I would love to see photos of the 4 types of variations.
This is interesting, I have never seen anything other than the green/white petioles.
Susan
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From: "Wilbert Hetterscheid" <hetter at xs4all.nl>
on 2011.06.22 at 04:52:26(22135)
I think the red colour is the key to the probability that it is koratensis. I never saw red in proper paeoniifolius. Koratensis has more variation in colour than paeoniifolius.
Cheers,
Wilbert
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Verzonden: maandag 20 juni 2011 8:47
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Hi Wilbert!
Nice to read some lines from you......
What made me frown were the dark purple spots on the petiole, let alone that I havn't seen too many different paeonifolius genotypes.
@ Peter
yes, I have heard of paeonifolius with smooth petioles; as far as I remember selections for agricultural use.
Thank to all of you who replied so far!
I'll forward your comments to the owner of the plant via our Amorphophallusforum.
Happy growing, Bernhard.
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I would not discount paeoniifolius smooth, apart from the fact that smaller and younger plants of this species may be smooth and at a later age warty. The red colouration in it may also point to koratensis......... Often mistaken for paeoniifolius when in leaf.
Cheers,
Wilbert
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From: "StroWi at t-online.de" <StroWi at t-online.de>
on 2014.01.08 at 10:58:21(22961)
Amorphophiles,
would someone know which spec this might be?
It grows in China, central Yunnan province closely east from Kunming in the stoneforest (limestone) region.
Please see the attached pictures.
The position and shape of the offsets might be quite unique.
Unfortunately I did not take a picture of the petiole while it was still green; it has a nice pattern with rather long light spots.
The wilted leaf was the second one of the season; the first one was aboout twice in hight.
Looking forward......
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From: "Wilbert Hetterscheid" <hetter at xs4all.nl>
on 2014.01.10 at 08:05:24(22963)
O.k., here is a possible ID-ing........ A. dunnii (judging from the oversized offsets).
You-know-who
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Subject: [Aroid-l] Amorphophallus ID please
Amorphophiles,
would someone know which spec this might be?
It grows in China, central Yunnan province closely east from Kunming in the stoneforest (limestone) region.
Please see the attached pictures.
The position and shape of the offsets might be quite unique.
Unfortunately I did not take a picture of the petiole while it was still green; it has a nice pattern with rather long light spots.
The wilted leaf was the second one of the season; the first one was aboout twice in hight.
Looking forward......
Happy ID-ing, Bernhard.
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From: "Wilbert Hetterscheid" <hetter at xs4all.nl>
on 2014.11.15 at 16:06:53(23166)
Thaiensis it is!
Cheers,
You-know-who
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Verzonden: zaterdag 15 november 2014 15:38
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Amorphophiles,
can someone identify the Amorphophallus spec. in this thread:
http://www.amorphophallus-forum.de/bl%C3%BCht-gleich-mal-allgemein/amorphophallus-f26/t5496-f47/
(At the bottom of the page there is a translation button...)
It was bought as thaiensis....
Happy id-ing, Bernhard.
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