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From: "Marek Argent" <abri1973 at wp.pl> on 2009.04.21 at 20:16:07(19260) Hello Tom V. & Brian, Can you have a look at this plant in the ID Center? http://www.wschowa.com/abrimaal/araceum/unid/helmutsyng1.htm I think it may be also Syngonium macrophyllum. Marek HTML +More ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom V To: Discussion of aroids Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 9:52 PM Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Philodendron "SCH�NBRUNNER HYBRID" Hi Ferenc, I have a plant like this called Syngonium macrophyllum. Regards, Tom Vincze Hello, I have a house plant that I would like to be identified, if possible. It is a climbing aroid and looks like the plant offered in the german ebay as Philodendron "SCH�NBRUNNER HYBRID". Its leaf venation does not look like that of a Philodendron. It has collective veins (at least I think so) like Anthuriums. However, it has no geniculum at the junction of the petiole and the leaf blade. The upper side of its leaves is slightly velvety. The upper side of the older leaves is dark green, the lower side is lighter green. The younger leaves are bicolorous with darker and lighter green areas as if it would have been sick, but it is not the case. As the leaves mature, the upper surface becomes uniformly dark green. The leaves are about as large as a man's hand (about 18 cm x 11 cm). It hasn't flowered for me, so I can't say anything about the inflorescence. I have taken some photos of it (attached). Is it simply an unknown hybrid? Or something else? Ferenc The following section of this message contains a file attachment prepared for transmission using the Internet MIME message format. If you are using Pegasus Mail, or any other MIME-compliant system, you should be able to save it or view it from within your mailer. If you cannot, please ask your system administrator for assistance. ---- File information ----------- File: younger leaf.JPG Date: 17 Apr 2009, 11:23 Size: 2309796 bytes. Type: JPEG-image The following section of this message contains a file attachment prepared for transmission using the Internet MIME message format. If you are using Pegasus Mail, or any other MIME-compliant system, you should be able to save it or view it from within your mailer. If you cannot, please ask your system administrator for assistance. ---- File information ----------- File: Lower surface.JPG Date: 17 Apr 2009, 11:23 Size: 1457126 bytes. Type: JPEG-image The following section of this message contains a file attachment prepared for transmission using the Internet MIME message format. If you are using Pegasus Mail, or any other MIME-compliant system, you should be able to save it or view it from within your mailer. If you cannot, please ask your system administrator for assistance. ---- File information ----------- File: underside.JPG Date: 17 Apr 2009, 11:24 Size: 1772586 bytes. Type: JPEG-image The following section of this message contains a file attachment prepared for transmission using the Internet MIME message format. If you are using Pegasus Mail, or any other MIME-compliant system, you should be able to save it or view it from within your mailer. If you cannot, please ask your system administrator for assistance. ---- File information ----------- File: petiole with cataphyll.JPG Date: 2 Apr 2009, 14:36 Size: 2369714 bytes. Type: JPEG-image The following section of this message contains a file attachment prepared for transmission using the Internet MIME message format. If you are using Pegasus Mail, or any other MIME-compliant system, you should be able to save it or view it from within your mailer. If you cannot, please ask your system administrator for assistance. ---- File information ----------- File: another leaf.JPG Date: 2 Apr 2009, 15:29 Size: 1747288 bytes. Type: JPEG-image The following section of this message contains a file attachment prepared for transmission using the Internet MIME message format. If you are using Pegasus Mail, or any other MIME-compliant system, you should be able to save it or view it from within your mailer. If you cannot, please ask your system administrator for assistance. ---- File information ----------- File: upper surface.JPG Date: 2 Apr 2009, 15:30 Size: 2122738 bytes. Type: JPEG-image _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l Nie znaleziono wirusa w tej wiadomosci przychodzacej. Sprawdzone przez AVG - www.avg.com Wersja: 8.5.287 / Baza danych wirus�w: 270.12.1/2071 - Data wydania: 04/21/09 08:30:00 ------=_NextPart_000_0183_01C9C2CE.C4E5DD20----==============�74136485602035466=

From: "Christopher Rogers" <crogers at ecoanalysts.com> on 2009.04.23 at 06:17:17(19267) Hello, Ferenc and Marek, Your plant looks a lot like one that I have that I got from the local university called “Syngonium chiapasense”. See the attached photo (resized smaller). It also bleeds white. However, I cannot find the name on TROPICOS or MOBOT or in any literature on the genus. I am very interested to learn the correct name of this very fast growing species. I will start researching S. macrophyllum. Best, Christopher HTML +More D. Christopher Rogers Senior Invertebrate Ecologist/ Taxonomist ((,///////////=======< EcoAnalysts, Inc. 1.530.383.4798 P.O. Box 4098 Davis, CA 95616 USA ŸInvertebrate Taxonomy ŸEndangered Species ŸEcological Studies ŸBioassessment ŸInvasive Species ŸPlankton ŸPhycology IDAHO ∙ CALIFORNIA ∙ MISSOURI ∙ PENNSYLVANIA ∙ ONTARIO WWW.ECOANALYSTS.COM ∙ ECO@ECOANALYSTS.COM -----Original Message----- From: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Lengyel Ferenc Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 12:38 AM To: Discussion of aroids Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Philodendron "SCHÖNBRUNNER HYBRID" Hello, Firt of all I'm terribly sorry for loading the list with such a big mail. I haven't realized its size, I just added the attachments one after the other without reducing their size. Next time I will take care of it. Thank you for all the answers. Yes, it has a white sap when cut. So it must be the juvenile form of a Syngonium sp., possibly S. macrophyllum. The unknown plant on the aroid webpage mentioned by Marek Argent is very similar, however, it has a shiny surface while the upper surface of the leaves of my plant is slightly velvety. If anybody is interested in the attached pics, I have reduced their size and put them on the Internet. Here are the links: http://img0.tar.hu/lengyelf/img/37600892.jpg#3 http://img0.tar.hu/lengyelf/img/37600891.jpg#3 http://img0.tar.hu/lengyelf/img/37600890.jpg#3 http://img0.tar.hu/lengyelf/img/37600889.jpg#3 http://img0.tar.hu/lengyelf/img/37600888.jpg#3 http://img0.tar.hu/lengyelf/img/37600887.jpg#3 Best Regards Ferenc _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.12.3/2075 - Release Date: 04/22/09 17:25:00 ------=_NextPart_001_000E_01C9C3A0.7B6A7D90 _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C9C3A0.7B680C90--

From: "Marek Argent" <abri1973 at wp.pl> on 2009.04.24 at 20:01:27(19281) So, Dear Friends, there's another problem... What's the difference between Syngonium macrophyllum and S. chiapasense (in juvenile plants)? Marek HTML +More ----- Original Message ----- From: Christopher Rogers To: 'Discussion of aroids' Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 8:17 AM Subject: Re: [Aroid-l]Philodendron "SCHÖNBRUNNER HYBRID" Hello, Ferenc and Marek, Your plant looks a lot like one that I have that I got from the local university called “Syngonium chiapasense”. See the attached photo (resized smaller). It also bleeds white. However, I cannot find the name on TROPICOS or MOBOT or in any literature on the genus. I am very interested to learn the correct name of this very fast growing species. I will start researching S. macrophyllum. Best, Christopher D. Christopher Rogers Senior Invertebrate Ecologist/ Taxonomist ((,///////////=======< EcoAnalysts, Inc. 1.530.383.4798 P.O. Box 4098 Davis, CA 95616 USA �Invertebrate Taxonomy �Endangered Species �Ecological Studies �Bioassessment �Invasive Species �Plankton �Phycology IDAHO ∙ CALIFORNIA ∙ MISSOURI ∙ PENNSYLVANIA ∙ ONTARIO WWW.ECOANALYSTS.COM ∙ ECO@ECOANALYSTS.COM -----Original Message----- From: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Lengyel Ferenc Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 12:38 AM To: Discussion of aroids Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Philodendron "SCHÖNBRUNNER HYBRID" Hello, Firt of all I'm terribly sorry for loading the list with such a big mail. I haven't realized its size, I just added the attachments one after the other without reducing their size. Next time I will take care of it. Thank you for all the answers. Yes, it has a white sap when cut. So it must be the juvenile form of a Syngonium sp., possibly S. macrophyllum. The unknown plant on the aroid webpage mentioned by Marek Argent is very similar, however, it has a shiny surface while the upper surface of the leaves of my plant is slightly velvety. If anybody is interested in the attached pics, I have reduced their size and put them on the Internet. Here are the links: http://img0.tar.hu/lengyelf/img/37600892.jpg#3 http://img0.tar.hu/lengyelf/img/37600891.jpg#3 http://img0.tar.hu/lengyelf/img/37600890.jpg#3 http://img0.tar.hu/lengyelf/img/37600889.jpg#3 http://img0.tar.hu/lengyelf/img/37600888.jpg#3 http://img0.tar.hu/lengyelf/img/37600887.jpg#3 Best Regards Ferenc _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.12.3/2075 - Release Date: 04/22/09 17:25:00 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Nie znaleziono wirusa w tej wiadomości przychodzącej. Sprawdzone przez AVG - www.avg.com Wersja: 8.5.287 / Baza danych wirusów: 270.12.3/2076 - Data wydania: 04/23/09 06:30:00 ------=_NextPart_000_0112_01C9C528.37579460 _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l --============== 84950570719095149==--

From: Peter Boyce <phymatarum at googlemail.com> on 2009.05.09 at 08:09:36(19313) Hi Helmut, Syngonium macrophllum is one of the species that does not exhibit heteroblasty; the leaf shape remains the same and they simply get larger and larger. At Kew S. chiapense got to 10 m before it flowered. Best Peter +More -----Original Message----- From: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Helmut Reisenberger Sent: 06 May 2009 17:15 To: Discussion of aroids Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Philodendron "SCH�NBRUNNER HYBRID" Hello Ferenc, Hi all ! thanks for your contribution to the identification. You make me sure it is a Syngonium. But what makes this species never to develop adult leaves, which are characteritic for the species? I have grown some plants (which easily grow from rooted cuttings) to some meters high under rainforest conditions (substrate, climbing support, temperature, humidity). The stem of some are more than 4 cm thick and the leaves are, still in the heartshaped manner, more than 70 cm long. They never produced any inflorescense (how could they?). Maybe anybody out there in the araceae crowd can offer an adult species of Syngonium macrophyllum (preferably in Europe)? I would like to cut an adult plant up to root the cuttings and to see what happens. g.gr. Helmut Reisenberger > -----Urspr�ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: "Lengyel Ferenc" > Gesendet: 23.04.09 08:10:53 > An: Discussion of aroids > Betreff: Re: [Aroid-l] Philodendron "SCH�NBRUNNER HYBRID" > Hello, > Firt of all I'm terribly sorry for loading the list with such a big mail. I haven't realized its size, I > just added the attachments one after the other without reducing their size. Next time I will > take care of it. > Thank you for all the answers. Yes, it has a white sap when cut. So it must be the juvenile > form of a Syngonium sp., possibly S. macrophyllum. > The unknown plant on the aroid webpage mentioned by Marek Argent is very similar, > however, it has a shiny surface while the upper surface of the leaves of my plant is slightly > velvety. > If anybody is interested in the attached pics, I have reduced their size and put them on the > Internet. Here are the links: > > http://img0.tar.hu/lengyelf/img/37600892.jpg#3 > http://img0.tar.hu/lengyelf/img/37600891.jpg#3 > http://img0.tar.hu/lengyelf/img/37600890.jpg#3 > http://img0.tar.hu/lengyelf/img/37600889.jpg#3 > http://img0.tar.hu/lengyelf/img/37600888.jpg#3 > http://img0.tar.hu/lengyelf/img/37600887.jpg#3 > > Best Regards > Ferenc > > > _______________________________________________ > Aroid-L mailing list > Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com > http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l > _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

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