2 headed Dragon

From: "Sherry Gates" <TheTropix at msn.com> on 2008.08.16 at 20:02:40(18392) Hi everyone, A couple of months ago I had asked about a Philodendron I knew as 'Golden Dragon'. One of the plants I have, a cutting from last year has started doing a split of its own. Russ, this is the picture I sent you. I didn't see a picture of Michaels' picture, so I'm not sure if this is the same kind of split he's talking about. If you look closely, you can see those spots starting to appear. If anyone is interested, I'll send an updated picture and dimensions on or off list. This picture was taken on July 17th. The original plant, mother to the rest, has a big "bloom" that still hasn't opened yet, but is getting bigger. Russ, I know I've sent you pictures and pestered you to no end, but if you'd like to see a pic of how it currently looks...you KNOW I'll send it! (smiley face) Have a great, SAFE weekend! Sherry Gates HTML +More TheTropix@msn.com ------=_NextPart_001_0081_01C8FFB1.20A72BA0--------=_NextPart_000_0080_01C8FFB1.20A72BA0

From: "Marek Argent" <abri1973 at wp.pl> on 2008.08.17 at 06:38:54(18397) Hi Sherry, There may be 2 reasons of such leaf appearance: 1. A spontaneous mutation (if the next leaves will look the same, keep it secure, you will get rich :) 2. A disease or an intoxication. Often mistreated plants produce malformed leaves and inflorescences. Gardeners often treat plants with various chemical substances to produce multiple or malformed flowers, leaves in order to sell plants as new cultivars. Best, Marek Argent HTML +More ----- Original Message ----- From: Sherry Gates To: AroidSendMessage Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 10:02 PM Subject: [Aroid-l] 2 headed Dragon Hi everyone, A couple of months ago I had asked about a Philodendron I knew as 'Golden Dragon'. One of the plants I have, a cutting from last year has started doing a split of its own. Russ, this is the picture I sent you. I didn't see a picture of Michaels' picture, so I'm not sure if this is the same kind of split he's talking about. If you look closely, you can see those spots starting to appear. If anyone is interested, I'll send an updated picture and dimensions on or off list. This picture was taken on July 17th. The original plant, mother to the rest, has a big "bloom" that still hasn't opened yet, but is getting bigger. Russ, I know I've sent you pictures and pestered you to no end, but if you'd like to see a pic of how it currently looks...you KNOW I'll send it! (smiley face) Have a great, SAFE weekend! Sherry Gates TheTropix@msn.com _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l ------=_NextPart_001_00A2_01C90044.AF077F10--------=_NextPart_000_00A1_01C90044.AF0471D0

From: "Sherry Gates" <TheTropix at msn.com> on 2008.08.17 at 18:31:53(18403) Hi Marek, I have high hopes for the next leaves. But even if they don't split, it's been interesting to watch. I fertilize once or twice a year at about 3/4 strength and use a little Ironite (for the micronutrients) once a year in the Spring. A couple of times during the growing season, between regular feeding,I might mix up some weak fertilizer and put it on the hose sprayer and give them a snack when I'm watering the leaves down. Other than that I don't use anything..I don't even have another chemical here for plants. The frogs, lizards, little snakes, wasps and sometimes even birds in the greenhouse are my bug fighting army, so I never use any kind of poison, and thankfully don't need to. Even in the plant beds in the yard, if a bug problem occurs, I do what my mom and grandma did...soapy water, then rinse well after about 10 minutes. That takes care of it for me. I also have some weed that the aphids seem to LOVE, so I leave a patch of them way away from the greenhouse and when they come, they concentrate out there and the other bugs head for the feast. Bugs on the plants hasn't really been a big problem in the greenhouse. My biggest 'critter gripe' is caterpillars in the spring & mosquitoes in the summer. But I still don't use poison..well sometimes I use OFF mosquito spray, but I use it on me. (smile) I'd never forgive myself if my dogs or family/friends were to get poisoned. Marek, I've never treated any plant with anything to get it to behave one way or another. Shoot, I don't even know what chemical you'd use to get an effect of any kind! lol Peters (water soluble) fertilizer and Ironite are what I've been using for years. Russ Hammer asked me if I lived near a nuclear power plant, HA! He's been very nice and helpful, too. I love this group! What a great & diverse pool of information. I know you didn't ask, but I wanted you to know what I use, when and how much. I hope you don't think I'm messing with chemicals or genetics, I wouldn't even know where or how to begin that project, nor do I have any interest in it. There's probably 10 or so of this Philodendron, including the big mama, in the greenhouse and they all get the same stuff & treatment. Let me ask you something. I've had a couple of my older/bigger Philos bloom for the first time this year, but the 'outer wrapping' never seemed to open up. Why? I hope I haven't taken up too much of your day. Thanks and take care! Sherry Gates HTML +More TheTropix@msn.com Hi Sherry, There may be 2 reasons of such leaf appearance: 1. A spontaneous mutation (if the next leaves will look the same, keep it secure, you will get rich :) 2. A disease or an intoxication. Often mistreated plants produce malformed leaves and inflorescences. Gardeners often treat plants with various chemical substances to produce multiple or malformed flowers, leaves in order to sell plants as new cultivars. Best, Marek Argent ------=_NextPart_001_0068_01C9006D.9CC3C240--------=_NextPart_000_0067_01C9006D.9CC3C240

From: "Marek Argent" <abri1973 at wp.pl> on 2008.08.18 at 12:08:47(18405) Hi Sherry, I don't know the answer to your last question, I have never (!) seen a blooming Philodendron live, only on photos, but I know that inflorescences of cultivars of various genera with decorative leaves often never open. I don't know if you have cultivars or pure species. I have an Aglaonema 'Silver Queen' which in summer has many inflorescences, but they don't open. See a young plant here: http://www.wschowa.com/abrimaal/araceum/aglaonema/queen1.jpg Now I have a question - is this 2 headed Philo a species or a cultivar? Best, Marek HTML +More ----- Original Message ----- From: Sherry Gates To: Discussion of aroids Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 8:31 PM Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] 2 headed Dragon Hi Marek, I have high hopes for the next leaves. But even if they don't split, it's been interesting to watch. I fertilize once or twice a year at about 3/4 strength and use a little Ironite (for the micronutrients) once a year in the Spring. A couple of times during the growing season, between regular feeding,I might mix up some weak fertilizer and put it on the hose sprayer and give them a snack when I'm watering the leaves down. Other than that I don't use anything..I don't even have another chemical here for plants. The frogs, lizards, little snakes, wasps and sometimes even birds in the greenhouse are my bug fighting army, so I never use any kind of poison, and thankfully don't need to. Even in the plant beds in the yard, if a bug problem occurs, I do what my mom and grandma did...soapy water, then rinse well after about 10 minutes. That takes care of it for me. I also have some weed that the aphids seem to LOVE, so I leave a patch of them way away from the greenhouse and when they come, they concentrate out there and the other bugs head for the feast. Bugs on the plants hasn't really been a big problem in the greenhouse. My biggest 'critter gripe' is caterpillars in the spring & mosquitoes in the summer. But I still don't use poison..well sometimes I use OFF mosquito spray, but I use it on me. (smile) I'd never forgive myself if my dogs or family/friends were to get poisoned. Marek, I've never treated any plant with anything to get it to behave one way or another. Shoot, I don't even know what chemical you'd use to get an effect of any kind! lol Peters (water soluble) fertilizer and Ironite are what I've been using for years. Russ Hammer asked me if I lived near a nuclear power plant, HA! He's been very nice and helpful, too. I love this group! What a great & diverse pool of information. I know you didn't ask, but I wanted you to know what I use, when and how much. I hope you don't think I'm messing with chemicals or genetics, I wouldn't even know where or how to begin that project, nor do I have any interest in it. There's probably 10 or so of this Philodendron, including the big mama, in the greenhouse and they all get the same stuff & treatment. Let me ask you something. I've had a couple of my older/bigger Philos bloom for the first time this year, but the 'outer wrapping' never seemed to open up. Why? I hope I haven't taken up too much of your day. Thanks and take care! Sherry Gates TheTropix@msn.com Hi Sherry, There may be 2 reasons of such leaf appearance: 1. A spontaneous mutation (if the next leaves will look the same, keep it secure, you will get rich :) 2. A disease or an intoxication. Often mistreated plants produce malformed leaves and inflorescences. Gardeners often treat plants with various chemical substances to produce multiple or malformed flowers, leaves in order to sell plants as new cultivars. Best, Marek Argent _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l __________ NOD32 Informacje 3362 (20080817) __________ Wiadomosc zostala sprawdzona przez System Antywirusowy NOD32 http://www.nod32.com lub http://www.nod32.pl ------=_NextPart_001_0079_01C9013B.EF52D090--------=_NextPart_000_0078_01C9013B.EF52D090

From: "Sherry Gates" <TheTropix at msn.com> on 2008.08.18 at 19:13:39(18407) Dear Marek, and the rest of the gang, especially Marek, I hope I didn't give the wrong impression in my e-mail about that Philodendron. I truly hope I didn't offend you in any way, or come off as confrontational. I promise, that was never my intention. I have the utmost respect for you and the other people on the list and the wealth of knowledge among all of you. Then I heard from an IAS member that you may have been referring to chemicals that could have been used way back in the plants' past that may have had long lasting effects. If that did happen, could the effects come through years later via one of the cuttings? So far only one plant has done this. I freely admit that I have no idea. I knew Russ was only joking with me about the power plant. (big smile) I am grateful for all the information and help I have received from the folks on the Aroid list. As y'all know, good solid information on Philodendrons and other Aroids can be hard to find! This group is an oasis in the desert. Marek, if I did offend you at all, please accept my most sincere apology. Sherry Gates HTML +More TheTropix@msn.com ------=_NextPart_001_0077_01C9013C.9D0B0360--------=_NextPart_000_0076_01C9013C.9D089260

From: "Marek Argent" <abri1973 at wp.pl> on 2008.08.21 at 16:13:39(18412) Why do you think you offended me? Offending me is almost impossible :D I have never used any chemicals except a spray against the spider mites when I had an invasion on my rare tuberous plants (some Amorphophallus, Taccarum, Pycnospatha). All the best, Marek HTML +More ----- Original Message ----- From: Sherry Gates To: Discussion of aroids Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 9:13 PM Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] 2 headed Dragon Dear Marek, and the rest of the gang, especially Marek, I hope I didn't give the wrong impression in my e-mail about that Philodendron. I truly hope I didn't offend you in any way, or come off as confrontational. I promise, that was never my intention. I have the utmost respect for you and the other people on the list and the wealth of knowledge among all of you. Then I heard from an IAS member that you may have been referring to chemicals that could have been used way back in the plants' past that may have had long lasting effects. If that did happen, could the effects come through years later via one of the cuttings? So far only one plant has done this. I freely admit that I have no idea. I knew Russ was only joking with me about the power plant. (big smile) I am grateful for all the information and help I have received from the folks on the Aroid list. As y'all know, good solid information on Philodendrons and other Aroids can be hard to find! This group is an oasis in the desert. Marek, if I did offend you at all, please accept my most sincere apology. Sherry Gates TheTropix@msn.com _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l __________ NOD32 Informacje 3374 (20080821) __________ Wiadomosc zostala sprawdzona przez System Antywirusowy NOD32 http://www.nod32.com lub http://www.nod32.pl ------=_NextPart_001_0271_01C903B9.A3380380--------=_NextPart_000_0270_01C903B9.A3380380

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