Cultivar registration latin alphabet

From: "derek burch" <dburch23 at bellsouth.net> on 2008.11.22 at 18:56:09(18749) Marek, You are little too literal in interpreting the code – there areno restrictions on accents or other diacritical marks, it is only different alphabetscripts (such as Cyrillic script) which needs to be transliterated. Don’tfrighten off our friends in France who are only alittle bit strange! I am British , myself, as you probably know, so my spellingis a little wonky too. Derek HTML +More -----Original Message----- From:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Marek Argent Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 10:00 AM To: Discussion of aroids Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Cultivarregistration - the wraps are off Hello, Andit's time to tell everybody that cultivar names can consist only ofletters from the Latin alphabet. So wesay goodbye to names with ěřýáíéöäüåąśćęóń etc. We'll "flatten" theseletters to abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz. Best, Marek ----- Original Message ----- From: derek burch To: 'Discussionof aroids' Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 3:02 AM Subject: [Aroid-l]Cultivar registration - the wraps are off Greetings, It is time to get moving on this. Our application forhas been approved by the International Cultivar Registration Authority, and nowwe have to perform. Cultivar registration in a few words. WHY: I want to see it happen so that cultivar namesare a matter of record (and also eventually get tied to a reference siteavailable to all, with descriptions and images. WHEN: The time to start is now – RIGHT NOW WHERE: There is a great, simple form to applyfor registration of a name on Aroid-l in the cultivar section WHAT: Any plant that seems significantlydifferent and holds the difference when propagated vegetatively HOW: The cultivar name, or epithet, is submittedon the application for registration. It must be in a non-latinised form, andmust sooner or later be published in print form associated with a descriptionand preferably an image. The epithet is then established by this publication.If the application is approved, but the epithet has not otherwise beenestablished, the publication requirement will be met by a suitable entry in Aroideana. Registration will thenfollow and lists of registered names will be published in hard-copy from timeto time, and will also be displayed on the website. Simple, right? WHO: You, of course. This is only effective if thebreeders and propagators support it. Right now, I need help from volunteers familiar with agenus who can check the lists already available on Aroid-l, add any missingnames, and give me the place and date of publication of any names that you cantrace. We are ready to go. Please be part of this. Derek __________ NOD32 Informacje 3632 (20081121) __________ Wiadomosc zostala sprawdzona przez System Antywirusowy NOD32 http://www.nod32.com lub http://www.nod32.pl _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l __________ NOD32 Informacje 3632 (20081121) __________ Wiadomosc zostala sprawdzona przez System Antywirusowy NOD32 http://www.nod32.com lub http://www.nod32.pl ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C94CAA.1347E580----==============x39320868961250546=

From: "Marek Argent" <abri1973 at wp.pl> on 2008.11.23 at 23:02:49(18752)  Hi again, Well, maybe I'm a "rebel" but I think that every language (using the Latin alphabet) should have an alternative orthography which allows to write correctly without diacritics and accents. For example in German there are national letters ä, ö, ü, ß and they use it commonly, but these letters can be replaced by "ae", "oe", "ue" and "ss" and this is used when they have no possibility to insert the diacritics (in mobile phones, foreign operation systems and the cultivar names too). In Norway there are 2 languages - Bokmål, with diacritics, and Nynorsk without them. I am engaged in a project APORT (Alternative Polish Orthography) which will allow to write correctly in Polish using only the Latin alphabet. We have 9 national chars, the work is almost ready but available now only in Polish. In relation to cultivars it is very insuitable and reckless to name them by difficult, specific to only one language words. In my opinion they should be easy to pronounce and pronounced similarly in various languages. If I created a new cultivar and thoughtlessly named it 'Szczęście' (what in Polish means 'Luck') how would you read it, hm? So, besides the Code the plant producers should have quick wits. The code is useful but the market has its own rules. Best, Marek HTML +More ----- Original Message ----- From: derek burch To: 'Discussion of aroids' Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 7:56 PM Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Cultivar registration latin alphabet Marek, You are little too literal in interpreting the code – there are no restrictions on accents or other diacritical marks, it is only different alphabet scripts (such as Cyrillic script) which needs to be transliterated. Don’t frighten off our friends in France who are only a little bit strange! I am British , myself, as you probably know, so my spelling is a little wonky too. Derek -----Original Message----- From: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Marek Argent Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 10:00 AM To: Discussion of aroids Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Cultivar registration - the wraps are off Hello, And it's time to tell everybody that cultivar names can consist only of letters from the Latin alphabet. So we say goodbye to names with ěřýáíéöäüåąśćęóń etc. We'll "flatten" these letters to abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz. Best, Marek ----- Original Message ----- From: derek burch To: 'Discussion of aroids' Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 3:02 AM Subject: [Aroid-l] Cultivar registration - the wraps are off Greetings, It is time to get moving on this. Our application for has been approved by the International Cultivar Registration Authority, and now we have to perform. Cultivar registration in a few words. WHY: I want to see it happen so that cultivar names are a matter of record (and also eventually get tied to a reference site available to all, with descriptions and images. WHEN: The time to start is now – RIGHT NOW WHERE: There is a great, simple form to apply for registration of a name on Aroid-l in the cultivar section WHAT: Any plant that seems significantly different and holds the difference when propagated vegetatively HOW: The cultivar name, or epithet, is submitted on the application for registration. It must be in a non-latinised form, and must sooner or later be published in print form associated with a description and preferably an image. The epithet is then established by this publication. If the application is approved, but the epithet has not otherwise been established, the publication requirement will be met by a suitable entry in Aroideana. Registration will then follow and lists of registered names will be published in hard-copy from time to time, and will also be displayed on the website. Simple, right? WHO: You, of course. This is only effective if the breeders and propagators support it. Right now, I need help from volunteers familiar with a genus who can check the lists already available on Aroid-l, add any missing names, and give me the place and date of publication of any names that you can trace. We are ready to go. Please be part of this. Derek __________ NOD32 Informacje 3632 (20081121) __________ Wiadomosc zostala sprawdzona przez System Antywirusowy NOD32 http://www.nod32.com lub http://www.nod32.pl _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l __________ NOD32 Informacje 3632 (20081121) __________ Wiadomosc zostala sprawdzona przez System Antywirusowy NOD32 http://www.nod32.com lub http://www.nod32.pl __________ NOD32 Informacje 3632 (20081121) __________ Wiadomosc zostala sprawdzona przez System Antywirusowy NOD32 http://www.nod32.com lub http://www.nod32.pl _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l __________ NOD32 Informacje 3632 (20081121) __________ Wiadomosc zostala sprawdzona przez System Antywirusowy NOD32 http://www.nod32.com lub http://www.nod32.pl ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C94DC7.FCF07EE0----==============x58105160804439149=

From: "W. George Schmid" <hostahill at bellsouth.net> on 2008.11.24 at 19:09:01(18754) Hi All, May I point out that Article 32, par. 32.6 of the ICNCP states the following about diacritical marks: 32.6. Accents and other diacritical marks (apart from the dieresis) may be added in cultivar epithets if it is thought the demands of linguistic custom are better served when they are added. In the genus Hosta we have many names that require diacritical marks, like H. ‘Fuji Botan Ôba’, ‘Grünfink’, and ‘Naseweiß’. Since the registration of these cultivars come from Japanese and German members, the ICRA for Hosta registers the names as they are spelled in the country of origin, including the diacritical marks. We have never had any problems with these names and we have nearly 4,000 cultivar names registered. We find that allowing this courtesy to members from other countries encourages cultivar registration. The ICNCP cares not about mobile phones or how cultivars are spelled in a way that would make the name invalid per the rules of the Code. There has to be an internationally acceptable way to write the names and to leave it up to personal preferences could be a problem. W. George Schmid Hosta Hill R. G. USDA Zone 7a - 1188 feet (361m) AMSL 84-12'-30" W 33-51' N All mail virus-scanned by McAfee HTML +More ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C94E3E.3429E6F0----==============A92869124960566437=

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