Philo 'Chumley' x 'Chumley'

From: "StroWi at t-online.de" <StroWi at t-online.de> on 2018.08.07 at 10:01:07(23890) Aroiders, would anyone how long seed of a cross Philodendron 'Chumley' x 'Chumley' need to germinate? HTML +More Bernhard.  ------=_Part_6361491_1142698408.1533636067563-- --==============‘41104158619351613==

From: a sunjian <asjbiotek at gmail.com> on 2018.08.07 at 17:27:34(23901) I know Taylor is growing some chumley cross seedlings, I'll ask him to check aroid-L for this message. As an aside, it would now be called Thaumatophyllum 'Chumley' x 'Chumley' as all mecos have been elevated to genus. HTML +More On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 6:01 AM, StroWi@t-online.de wrote: Aroiders, would anyone how long seed of a cross Philodendron 'Chumley' x 'Chumley' need to germinate? Bernhard.  _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l --000000000000afc96b0572dbb5a8-- --==============10008417163485581==

From: The Silent Seed <tylus.seklos at gmail.com> on 2018.08.07 at 17:05:24(23902) Bernhard, Is this the "curly selloum" plant that Chumley has? What has been happening with that plant and its' nomenclature, if anything? Last I heard (8? years ago?) is that Chumley was trying to get this plant propagated and distributed? Jude HTML +More On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 6:01 AM, StroWi@t-online.de wrote: Aroiders, would anyone how long seed of a cross Philodendron 'Chumley' x 'Chumley' need to germinate? Bernhard.  _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l -- The Silent Seed Rare and Unusual plants from around the world. thesilentseed.com --00000000000067ba900572db669b-- --==============i52926504689895781==

From: a sunjian <asjbiotek at gmail.com> on 2018.08.07 at 18:05:35(23905) Taylor replied to my query....he also has T. 'Chumley x Chumley' and he says (he has trouble replying to aroid-l messages for some reason): " I think my seeds showed life in 4 days." HTML +More On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 6:01 AM, StroWi@t-online.de wrote: Aroiders, would anyone how long seed of a cross Philodendron 'Chumley' x 'Chumley' need to germinate? Bernhard.  _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l --000000000000a8bf2a0572dc3d29-- --==============(82853749660947390==

From: The Silent Seed <tylus.seklos at gmail.com> on 2018.08.08 at 00:07:06(23919) Do you mind if I ask how these were made available? I'd love to try some someday. I saw the mother plant many moons ago. On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 2:05 PM, a sunjian wrote: HTML +More Taylor replied to my query....he also has T. 'Chumley x Chumley' and he says (he has trouble replying to aroid-l messages for some reason): " I think my seeds showed life in 4 days." On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 6:01 AM, StroWi@t-online.de wrote: Aroiders, would anyone how long seed of a cross Philodendron 'Chumley' x 'Chumley' need to germinate? Bernhard.  _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l -- The Silent Seed Rare and Unusual plants from around the world. thesilentseed.com --0000000000008d03750572e14a18-- --==============39002194921096821==

From: Don Bittel <donbit121 at hotmail.com> on 2018.08.07 at 23:59:29(23920) Hello! All of the seeds that I have produced on the Meconostigma philodendrons germinate quickly, in 3 to 10 days, with almost 100% germination. I usually plant about two days after harvest. If I wait a week to plant, germination is low. Hybrids are the same as species in this regard. When did these get changed to thaumat....? Glad to see some activity here on aroid-l. I am not a facebook person! Don Bittel HTML +More On August 7, 2018, at 6:43 PM, a sunjian wrote: I know Taylor is growing some chumley cross seedlings, I'll ask him to check aroid-L for this message. As an aside, it would now be called Thaumatophyllum 'Chumley' x 'Chumley' as all mecos have been elevated to genus. On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 6:01 AM, StroWi@t-online.de wrote: Aroiders, would anyone how long seed of a cross Philodendron 'Chumley' x 'Chumley' need to germinate? Bernhard.  _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: Taylor <taylorholzer at yahoo.com> on 2018.08.08 at 16:51:49(23931) (File Type Not Recognized: attachments/180808101705-1.jpe) My seeds were in transit for 5 days, sprouted in 4 days after arriving. On Aug 8, 2018, at 11:44 AM, Tom Croat wrote: Dear Bernard: I think that the Meconostigma (Now Thaumatophyllum) have a different biology. I have received seeds that were seemingly very dry which germinated. Typical aroids can’t be allowed to dry out at all but perhaps since Thaumatophyllum evolved in the much drier habitats of the catinga and matte atlantica they have adobted a different reproductive strategy and that dry seeds are the norm. Find out from Taylor how many days his seeds were in transit. I few days of wet conditions might be good but the longer transit time to Europe were not so good. Tom HTML +More From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Bernhard. Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2018 2:53 AM To: Discussion of aroids Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Philo 'Chumley' x 'Chumley' An aroid-friend of mine is in private contact with Robert Chumley and he got some seeds. He wanted that I sow some under mine conditions, but neither me nor him has germinating seeds after 3 weeks. The seeds came in a padded envelope in a ziploc and were very moist with "pulp"(?) from the fruit; good conditions for bacteria, we think... We guess that they did not survive the long time being sent over the Atlantic to Germany. Too sad...... (as the present POTUS would probably twitter......) Bernhard. Am 08.08.2018 um 02:07 schrieb The Silent Seed: Do you mind if I ask how these were made available? I'd love to try some someday. I saw the mother plant many moons ago. On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 2:05 PM, a sunjian wrote: Taylor replied to my query....he also has T. 'Chumley x Chumley' and he says (he has trouble replying to aroid-l messages for some reason): " I think my seeds showed life in 4 days." On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 6:01 AM, StroWi@t-online.de wrote: Aroiders, would anyone how long seed of a cross Philodendron 'Chumley' x 'Chumley' need to germinate? Bernhard.  _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l -- The Silent Seed Rare and Unusual plants from around the world. thesilentseed.com _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l --Apple-Mail-3FCC534B-75B1-4960-9CCE-994284F66BF2

From: Tom Croat <Thomas.Croat at mobot.org> on 2018.08.08 at 15:44:19(23932) Dear Bernard: I think that the Meconostigma (Now Thaumatophyllum) have a different biology. I have received seeds that were seemingly very dry which germinated. Typical aroids can’t be allowed to dry out at all but perhaps since Thaumatophyllum evolved in the much drier habitats of the catinga and matte atlantica they have adobted a different reproductive strategy and that dry seeds are the norm. Find out from Taylor how many days his seeds were in transit. I few days of wet conditions might be good but the longer transit time to Europe were not so good. Tom HTML +More From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Bernhard. Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2018 2:53 AM To: Discussion of aroids Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Philo 'Chumley' x 'Chumley' An aroid-friend of mine is in private contact with Robert Chumley and he got some seeds. He wanted that I sow some under mine conditions, but neither me nor him has germinating seeds after 3 weeks. The seeds came in a padded envelope in a ziploc and were very moist with "pulp"(?) from the fruit; good conditions for bacteria, we think... We guess that they did not survive the long time being sent over the Atlantic to Germany. Too sad...... (as the present POTUS would probably twitter......) Bernhard. Am 08.08.2018 um 02:07 schrieb The Silent Seed: Do you mind if I ask how these were made available? I'd love to try some someday. I saw the mother plant many moons ago. On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 2:05 PM, a sunjian wrote: Taylor replied to my query....he also has T. 'Chumley x Chumley' and he says (he has trouble replying to aroid-l messages for some reason): " I think my seeds showed life in 4 days." On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 6:01 AM, StroWi@t-online.de wrote: Aroiders, would anyone how long seed of a cross Philodendron 'Chumley' x 'Chumley' need to germinate? Bernhard.  _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l -- The Silent Seed Rare and Unusual plants from around the world. thesilentseed.com _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: Taylor <taylorholzer at yahoo.com> on 2018.08.08 at 16:13:41(23934) Chumley sent me the seeds, he’s distributing it to trusted people to get more of them into existence. On Aug 8, 2018, at 6:40 AM, a sunjian wrote: I'll ask but he is friends with Chumley and probably got it direct. The last I heard he was distributing to select people: http://keyapa.com/pahatan/rencana/p_cminiselloum_history.htm HTML +More On Tuesday, August 7, 2018, The Silent Seed wrote: Do you mind if I ask how these were made available? I'd love to try some someday. I saw the mother plant many moons ago. On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 2:05 PM, a sunjian wrote: Taylor replied to my query....he also has T. 'Chumley x Chumley' and he says (he has trouble replying to aroid-l messages for some reason): " I think my seeds showed life in 4 days." On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 6:01 AM, StroWi@t-online.de wrote: Aroiders, would anyone how long seed of a cross Philodendron 'Chumley' x 'Chumley' need to germinate? Bernhard.  _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l -- The Silent Seed Rare and Unusual plants from around the world. thesilentseed.com _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l --Apple-Mail-E9E1E09D-8E04-41D6-B292-0AFA8482C091-- --==============T16318561087524286==

From: The Silent Seed <tylus.seklos at gmail.com> on 2018.08.08 at 17:16:41(23935) That's awesome - about Chumley's plant getting distributed. Are there clones floating around also? Has he gotten it officially named? i personally would love to get some - or at least one clone for my personal collection. I have always admired his plant in-situ. Jude HTML +More On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 11:44 AM, Tom Croat wrote: Dear Bernard: I think that the Meconostigma (Now Thaumatophyllum) have a different biology. I have received seeds that were seemingly very dry which germinated. Typical aroids can’t be allowed to dry out at all but perhaps since Thaumatophyllum evolved in the much drier habitats of the catinga and matte atlantica they have adobted a different reproductive strategy and that dry seeds are the norm. Find out from Taylor how many days his seeds were in transit. I few days of wet conditions might be good but the longer transit time to Europe were not so good. Tom From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Bernhard. Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2018 2:53 AM To: Discussion of aroids Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Philo 'Chumley' x 'Chumley' An aroid-friend of mine is in private contact with Robert Chumley and he got some seeds. He wanted that I sow some under mine conditions, but neither me nor him has germinating seeds after 3 weeks. The seeds came in a padded envelope in a ziploc and were very moist with "pulp"(?) from the fruit; good conditions for bacteria, we think... We guess that they did not survive the long time being sent over the Atlantic to Germany. Too sad...... (as the present POTUS would probably twitter......) Bernhard. Am 08.08.2018 um 02:07 schrieb The Silent Seed: Do you mind if I ask how these were made available? I'd love to try some someday. I saw the mother plant many moons ago. On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 2:05 PM, a sunjian wrote: Taylor replied to my query....he also has T. 'Chumley x Chumley' and he says (he has trouble replying to aroid-l messages for some reason): " I think my seeds showed life in 4 days." On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 6:01 AM, StroWi@t-online.de wrote: Aroiders, would anyone how long seed of a cross Philodendron 'Chumley' x 'Chumley' need to germinate? Bernhard.  _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l -- The Silent Seed Rare and Unusual plants from around the world. thesilentseed.com _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l -- The Silent Seed Rare and Unusual plants from around the world. thesilentseed.com --0000000000009518cf0572efac17-- --==============R47681610145147453==

From: "Bernhard." <strowi at t-online.de> on 2018.08.08 at 19:06:29(23936) Dear Tom, thanks for your input! If my friend might get another batch of seeds next year he might ask for dried ones. HTML +More I'll try to find out how long Taylor's seeds travelled... Best regards, Bernhard. Am 08.08.2018 um 17:44 schrieb Tom Croat: Dear Bernard: I think that the Meconostigma (Now Thaumatophyllum) have a different biology. I have received seeds that were seemingly very dry which germinated. Typical aroids can’t be allowed to dry out at all but perhaps since Thaumatophyllum evolved in the much drier habitats of the catinga and matte atlantica they have adobted a different reproductive strategy and that dry seeds are the norm. Find out from Taylor how many days his seeds were in transit. I few days of wet conditions might be good but the longer transit time to Europe were not so good. Tom From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Bernhard. Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2018 2:53 AM To: Discussion of aroids Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Philo 'Chumley' x 'Chumley' An aroid-friend of mine is in private contact with Robert Chumley and he got some seeds. He wanted that I sow some under mine conditions, but neither me nor him has germinating seeds after 3 weeks. The seeds came in a padded envelope in a ziploc and were very moist with "pulp"(?) from the fruit; good conditions for bacteria, we think... We guess that they did not survive the long time being sent over the Atlantic to Germany. Too sad...... (as the present POTUS would probably twitter......) Bernhard. Am 08.08.2018 um 02:07 schrieb The Silent Seed: Do you mind if I ask how these were made available? I'd love to try some someday. I saw the mother plant many moons ago. On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 2:05 PM, a sunjian target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"asjbiotek@gmail.com/a> wrote: Taylor replied to my query....he also has T. 'Chumley x Chumley' and he says (he has trouble replying to aroid-l messages for some reason): " I think my seeds showed life in 4 days." On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 6:01 AM, target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"> StroWi@t-online.de href="mailto:StroWi@t-online.de" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"StroWi@t-online.de/a> wrote: Aroiders, would anyone how long seed of a cross Philodendron 'Chumley' x 'Chumley' need to germinate? Bernhard. ? style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"> _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com href="http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list moz-do-not-send="true">Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com href="http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l -- The Silent Seed Rare and Unusual plants from around the world. href="http://thesilentseed.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">thesilentseed.com _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l --------------F15C47E258275057DA3EAFA0-- --============== 66428996982841540==

From: Hannon <othonna at gmail.com> on 2018.08.08 at 20:15:30(23937) Thanks, Peter. Too bad Meconostigma could not be used instead of Thaumatophyllum. Is there now a precedent for moving Pteromischum to genus level? Dylan HTML +More "Reason is itself a matter of faith. It is an act of faith to assert that our thoughts have any relation to reality at all." ~ Gilbert K. Chesterton
 On 7 August 2018 at 22:44, Peter C. Boyce wrote: Hello Don, The paper making the change to Thaumatophyllum is attached. The ‘move’ is NOT being my any means being universally followed! Pete From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Don Bittel Sent: Wednesday, 8 August, 2018 7:59 AM To: Discussion of aroids Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Philo 'Chumley' x 'Chumley' Hello! All of the seeds that I have produced on the Meconostigma philodendrons germinate quickly, in 3 to 10 days, with almost 100% germination. I usually plant about two days after harvest. If I wait a week to plant, germination is low. Hybrids are the same as species in this regard. When did these get changed to thaumat....? Glad to see some activity here on aroid-l. I am not a facebook person! Don Bittel On August 7, 2018, at 6:43 PM, a sunjian wrote: I know Taylor is growing some chumley cross seedlings, I'll ask him to check aroid-L for this message. As an aside, it would now be called Thaumatophyllum 'Chumley' x 'Chumley' as all mecos have been elevated to genus. On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 6:01 AM, StroWi@t-online.de wrote: Aroiders, would anyone how long seed of a cross Philodendron 'Chumley' x 'Chumley' need to germinate? Bernhard.  _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l --000000000000db39840572f22d23-- --==============…47208117399066007==

From: "Bernhard." <strowi at t-online.de> on 2018.08.08 at 19:11:50(23938) Taylor, great picture!!! Wishing success for the further development... HTML +More Bernhard. - green-eyed.... ;-) Am 08.08.2018 um 18:51 schrieb Taylor: My seeds were in transit for 5 days, sprouted in 4 days after arriving. pic removed to save disk space..... On Aug 8, 2018, at 11:44 AM, Tom Croat href="mailto:Thomas.Croat@mobot.org" moz-do-not-send="true"Thomas.Croat@mobot.org/a> wrote: Dear Bernard: I think that the Meconostigma (Now Thaumatophyllum) have a different biology. I have received seeds that were seemingly very dry which germinated. Typical aroids can’t be allowed to dry out at all but perhaps since Thaumatophyllum evolved in the much drier habitats of the catinga and matte atlantica they have adobted a different reproductive strategy and that dry seeds are the norm. Find out from Taylor how many days his seeds were in transit. I few days of wet conditions might be good but the longer transit time to Europe were not so good. Tom From: moz-do-not-send="true">aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [ moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Bernhard. Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2018 2:53 AM To: Discussion of aroids href="mailto:aroid-l@www.gizmoworks.com" moz-do-not-send="true"aroid-l@www.gizmoworks.com/a> Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Philo 'Chumley' x 'Chumley' An aroid-friend of mine is in private contact with Robert Chumley and he got some seeds. He wanted that I sow some under mine conditions, but neither me nor him has germinating seeds after 3 weeks. The seeds came in a padded envelope in a ziploc and were very moist with "pulp"(?) from the fruit; good conditions for bacteria, we think... We guess that they did not survive the long time being sent over the Atlantic to Germany. Too sad...... (as the present POTUS would probably twitter......) Bernhard. Am 08.08.2018 um 02:07 schrieb The Silent Seed: Do you mind if I ask how these were made available? I'd love to try some someday. I saw the mother plant many moons ago. On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 2:05 PM, a sunjian target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"asjbiotek@gmail.com/a> wrote: Taylor replied to my query....he also has T. 'Chumley x Chumley' and he says (he has trouble replying to aroid-l messages for some reason): " I think my seeds showed life in 4 days." On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 6:01 AM, href="mailto:StroWi@t-online.de" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"> StroWi@t-online.de href="mailto:StroWi@t-online.de" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"StroWi@t-online.de/a> wrote: style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Aroiders, style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"> style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">would anyone how long seed of a cross Philodendron 'Chumley' x 'Chumley' need to germinate? style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"> style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Bernhard. ? style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"> _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list href="mailto:Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com href="http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list moz-do-not-send="true">Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com href="http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l -- The Silent Seed Rare and Unusual plants from around the world. href="http://thesilentseed.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">thesilentseed.com _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list moz-do-not-send="true">Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com href="http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l --------------6421DB6F89D80803EA45CFED-- --==============X66986052161311892==

From: Tom Croat <Thomas.Croat at mobot.org> on 2018.08.09 at 03:18:44(23942) Dylan: It is essentially obligatory if you except Thaumatophyllum. Mike Grayum will not go along with the change and since he is the authority and is still finishing his revision of Pteromischum it will be awkward for others to do so when the world’s authority on the group does not go along. I suspect that he will just go on calling them a section of Philodendron. Tom HTML +More From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Hannon Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2018 3:16 PM To: Discussion of aroids Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Philo 'Chumley' x 'Chumley' Thanks, Peter. Too bad Meconostigma could not be used instead of Thaumatophyllum. Is there now a precedent for moving Pteromischum to genus level? Dylan "Reason is itself a matter of faith. It is an act of faith to assert that our thoughts have any relation to reality at all." ~ Gilbert K. Chesterton
 On 7 August 2018 at 22:44, Peter C. Boyce wrote: Hello Don, The paper making the change to Thaumatophyllum is attached. The ‘move’ is NOT being my any means being universally followed! Pete From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Don Bittel Sent: Wednesday, 8 August, 2018 7:59 AM To: Discussion of aroids Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Philo 'Chumley' x 'Chumley' Hello! All of the seeds that I have produced on the Meconostigma philodendrons germinate quickly, in 3 to 10 days, with almost 100% germination. I usually plant about two days after harvest. If I wait a week to plant, germination is low. Hybrids are the same as species in this regard. When did these get changed to thaumat....? Glad to see some activity here on aroid-l. I am not a facebook person! Don Bittel On August 7, 2018, at 6:43 PM, a sunjian wrote: I know Taylor is growing some chumley cross seedlings, I'll ask him to check aroid-L for this message. As an aside, it would now be called Thaumatophyllum 'Chumley' x 'Chumley' as all mecos have been elevated to genus. On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 6:01 AM, StroWi@t-online.de wrote: Aroiders, would anyone how long seed of a cross Philodendron 'Chumley' x 'Chumley' need to germinate? Bernhard.  _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

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