Syngonium

From: The Silent Seed <tylus.seklos at gmail.com> on 2018.08.31 at 01:40:01(24022) Sorry - I misspoke - I meant to ask; is it S. podophyllum. -- The Silent Seed HTML +More Rare and Unusual plants from around the world. thesilentseed.com --0000000000002b83600574b145c0-- --==============@77081238882282370==

From: Russ <bluesea14808 at yahoo.com> on 2018.09.07 at 20:28:46(24043) I have lost the name of this syngonium, any one recognize it!? Russ HTML +More Central Florida ------=_Part_1310943_2131240423.1536352126357-- ------=_Part_1310946_1584041391.1536352127005

From: The Silent Seed <tylus.seklos at gmail.com> on 2018.09.08 at 03:08:46(24045) Russ, Hope you get some answers - nobody was able to comment on mine either. That said; I don't see a picture attached of yours? May I see it? Jude HTML +More On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 4:28 PM, Russ wrote: I have lost the name of this syngonium, any one recognize it!? Russ Central Florida _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l -- The Silent Seed Rare and Unusual plants from around the world. thesilentseed.com --0000000000004d625c0575537178-- --==============$97187246091291008==

From: Peter Boyce <phymatarum at gmail.com> on 2018.09.09 at 02:41:35(24053) Russ, My money would ne on S. angustifolium. Tom? On Sat, 8 Sep 2018 at 11:04, Russ wrote: HTML +More I have lost the name of this syngonium, any one recognize it!? Russ Central Florida _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l --000000000000ad76480575672ee7-- --000000000000ad764b0575672ee8

From: Tom Croat <Thomas.Croat at mobot.org> on 2018.09.10 at 02:37:35(24057) Dear Russ: While there is always some doubt I do believe that this is Anthurium angustifolium Schott. Tom HTML +More From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Peter Boyce Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2018 9:42 PM To: Discussion of aroids Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Syngonium Russ, My money would ne on S. angustifolium. Tom? On Sat, 8 Sep 2018 at 11:04, Russ wrote: I have lost the name of this syngonium, any one recognize it!? Russ Central Florida _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: Peter Boyce <phymatarum at gmail.com> on 2018.09.10 at 02:58:29(24058) Tom, Anthurium?? Pete HTML +More On Mon, 10 Sep 2018, 10:57 Tom Croat, wrote: Dear Russ: While there is always some doubt I do believe that this is Anthurium angustifolium Schott. Tom From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Peter Boyce Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2018 9:42 PM To: Discussion of aroids Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Syngonium Russ, My money would ne on S. angustifolium. Tom? On Sat, 8 Sep 2018 at 11:04, Russ wrote: I have lost the name of this syngonium, any one recognize it!? Russ Central Florida _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l --000000000000f5c17905757b8844-- --==============s28258821487269592==

From: Tom Croat <Thomas.Croat at mobot.org> on 2018.09.10 at 15:49:03(24059) Pete: No, a brain slip~! I meant to say Syngonium angustifolium. Tom HTML +More From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Peter Boyce Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2018 9:58 PM To: Discussion of aroids Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Syngonium Tom, Anthurium?? Pete On Mon, 10 Sep 2018, 10:57 Tom Croat, wrote: Dear Russ: While there is always some doubt I do believe that this is Anthurium angustifolium Schott. Tom From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Peter Boyce Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2018 9:42 PM To: Discussion of aroids Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Syngonium Russ, My money would ne on S. angustifolium. Tom? On Sat, 8 Sep 2018 at 11:04, Russ wrote: I have lost the name of this syngonium, any one recognize it!? Russ Central Florida _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: Jason Hernandez <jason.hernandez74 at yahoo.com> on 2018.09.11 at 01:16:19(24061) As long as we are on the subject of Syngonium, is there a reliable way to distiguish in the field between S. podophyllum and S. auritum? It matters because in the Dominican Republic, S. auritum is native, S. podophyllum is naturalized. Jason Hernandez HTML +More ------=_Part_570712_602970894.1536628579648-- --==============638296943113556069==

From: Peter Boyce <phymatarum at gmail.com> on 2018.09.11 at 06:50:07(24063) here in cultivation auritum has leathery glossy leaf blades while podophyllum has thin matte leaf blades. This is auritum (not my image) On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 at 09:27, Jason Hernandez wrote: HTML +More As long as we are on the subject of Syngonium, is there a reliable way to distiguish in the field between S. podophyllum and S. auritum? It matters because in the Dominican Republic, S. auritum is native, S. podophyllum is naturalized. Jason Hernandez _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l --0000000000002b1cfa057592e3a5-- --0000000000002b1cfd057592e3a7

From: =?utf-8?Q?Eduardo_Gon=C3=A7alves?= <edggon at gmail.com> on 2018.09.11 at 14:23:20(24064) Dear aroiders, HTML +More As far as I have observed, the Syngonium which is broadly cultivated is Syngonium angustatum, not S. podophyllum. The main easy-to-observe difference is on male flowers, which are retuse (shallowly lobate, like a molar teeth) on apex on S. angustatum and truncate (blunt) on S. podophyllum. I took this in Tom’s revision of the genus (1981). All naturalized Syngonium I have seen in Brazil and around Miami are S. angustatum. Pictures I have seen from Southeastern Asia are S. angustatum as well. Syngonium auritum has subcoriaceus and pretty shiny leaves and is a lazy climber, seeming to prefer to be lurking around on topsoil. Material I have seen of S. podophyllum - only in Chiapas-Mexico and around San Jose in Costa Rica - climber like crazy and have softer leaves. By the way, I have checked my S. auritum in my backyard and they have exactly the same aspect as that on Peter’s picture. Very best wishes, Eduardo. On 11 Sep 2018, at 02:50, Peter Boyce wrote: here in cultivation auritum has leathery glossy leaf blades while podophyllum has thin matte leaf blades. This is auritum (not my image) On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 at 09:27, Jason Hernandez wrote: As long as we are on the subject of Syngonium, is there a reliable way to distiguish in the field between S. podophyllum and S. auritum? It matters because in the Dominican Republic, S. auritum is native, S. podophyllum is naturalized. Jason Hernandez _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l --Apple-Mail=_EF22DF3F-1C36-4617-8A99-8FF0EF588768-- --==============�31873218134023002==

From: Tom Croat <Thomas.Croat at mobot.org> on 2018.09.11 at 16:43:52(24065) I agree with Eduardo. Syngonium angustifolium is much more of a weed than S. podophyllum. I remember that it was adorning the trees of the public circle in Balboa when I was working on my Revision of Syngonium and I had not found it anywhere in the wild at that time in Panama. Many neotropical aroids have been introduced in to the natural forests of Papua New Guinea. I was shocked to see so many such species in what I thought was virgin forests around Lae. Tom HTML +More From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Eduardo Gonçalves Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 9:23 AM To: Discussion of aroids Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Syngonium Dear aroiders, As far as I have observed, the Syngonium which is broadly cultivated is Syngonium angustatum, not S. podophyllum. The main easy-to-observe difference is on male flowers, which are retuse (shallowly lobate, like a molar teeth) on apex on S. angustatum and truncate (blunt) on S. podophyllum. I took this in Tom’s revision of the genus (1981). All naturalized Syngonium I have seen in Brazil and around Miami are S. angustatum. Pictures I have seen from Southeastern Asia are S. angustatum as well. Syngonium auritum has subcoriaceus and pretty shiny leaves and is a lazy climber, seeming to prefer to be lurking around on topsoil. Material I have seen of S. podophyllum - only in Chiapas-Mexico and around San Jose in Costa Rica - climber like crazy and have softer leaves. By the way, I have checked my S. auritum in my backyard and they have exactly the same aspect as that on Peter’s picture. Very best wishes, Eduardo. On 11 Sep 2018, at 02:50, Peter Boyce wrote: here in cultivation auritum has leathery glossy leaf blades while podophyllum has thin matte leaf blades. This is auritum (not my image) On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 at 09:27, Jason Hernandez wrote: As long as we are on the subject of Syngonium, is there a reliable way to distiguish in the field between S. podophyllum and S. auritum? It matters because in the Dominican Republic, S. auritum is native, S. podophyllum is naturalized. Jason Hernandez _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: The Silent Seed <tylus.seklos at gmail.com> on 2018.09.11 at 18:59:05(24066) Hi Tom; What do you think this one is? Best, Jude HTML +More On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 12:43 PM, Tom Croat wrote: I agree with Eduardo. Syngonium angustifolium is much more of a weed than S. podophyllum. I remember that it was adorning the trees of the public circle in Balboa when I was working on my Revision of Syngonium and I had not found it anywhere in the wild at that time in Panama. Many neotropical aroids have been introduced in to the natural forests of Papua New Guinea. I was shocked to see so many such species in what I thought was virgin forests around Lae. Tom From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Eduardo Gonçalves Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 9:23 AM To: Discussion of aroids Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Syngonium Dear aroiders, As far as I have observed, the Syngonium which is broadly cultivated is Syngonium angustatum, not S. podophyllum. The main easy-to-observe difference is on male flowers, which are retuse (shallowly lobate, like a molar teeth) on apex on S. angustatum and truncate (blunt) on S. podophyllum. I took this in Tom’s revision of the genus (1981). All naturalized Syngonium I have seen in Brazil and around Miami are S. angustatum. Pictures I have seen from Southeastern Asia are S. angustatum as well. Syngonium auritum has subcoriaceus and pretty shiny leaves and is a lazy climber, seeming to prefer to be lurking around on topsoil. Material I have seen of S. podophyllum - only in Chiapas-Mexico and around San Jose in Costa Rica - climber like crazy and have softer leaves. By the way, I have checked my S. auritum in my backyard and they have exactly the same aspect as that on Peter’s picture. Very best wishes, Eduardo. On 11 Sep 2018, at 02:50, Peter Boyce wrote: here in cultivation auritum has leathery glossy leaf blades while podophyllum has thin matte leaf blades. This is auritum (not my image) On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 at 09:27, Jason Hernandez wrote: As long as we are on the subject of Syngonium, is there a reliable way to distiguish in the field between S. podophyllum and S. auritum? It matters because in the Dominican Republic, S. auritum is native, S. podophyllum is naturalized. Jason Hernandez _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l -- The Silent Seed Rare and Unusual plants from around the world. thesilentseed.com --000000000000815aa005759d112b-- --000000000000815aa305759d112d

From: Peter Boyce <phymatarum at gmail.com> on 2018.09.12 at 05:08:40(24067) Hello Eduardo So are these (see attached) flat or retuse? On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 at 22:26, Eduardo Gonçalves wrote: HTML +More Dear aroiders, As far as I have observed, the Syngonium which is broadly cultivated is Syngonium angustatum, not S. podophyllum. The main easy-to-observe difference is on male flowers, which are retuse (shallowly lobate, like a molar teeth) on apex on S. angustatum and truncate (blunt) on S. podophyllum. I took this in Tom’s revision of the genus (1981). All naturalized Syngonium I have seen in Brazil and around Miami are S. angustatum. Pictures I have seen from Southeastern Asia are S. angustatum as well. Syngonium auritum has subcoriaceus and pretty shiny leaves and is a lazy climber, seeming to prefer to be lurking around on topsoil. Material I have seen of S. podophyllum - only in Chiapas-Mexico and around San Jose in Costa Rica - climber like crazy and have softer leaves. By the way, I have checked my S. auritum in my backyard and they have exactly the same aspect as that on Peter’s picture. Very best wishes, Eduardo. On 11 Sep 2018, at 02:50, Peter Boyce wrote: here in cultivation auritum has leathery glossy leaf blades while podophyllum has thin matte leaf blades. This is auritum (not my image) On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 at 09:27, Jason Hernandez wrote: As long as we are on the subject of Syngonium, is there a reliable way to distiguish in the field between S. podophyllum and S. auritum? It matters because in the Dominican Republic, S. auritum is native, S. podophyllum is naturalized. Jason Hernandez _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l --0000000000003d02630575a59623-- --0000000000003d02650575a59625

From: Tom Croat <Thomas.Croat at mobot.org> on 2018.09.12 at 04:56:19(24068) Dear Jude: I have to assume that this variegated form is just an unusual form of Syngonium podophyllum Schott. I think that most of the cultivars have arisen from that species but the juvenile forms of all Syngonium are somewhat subject to doubt since one never really knows who creates these thing and from what source. Tom HTML +More From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of The Silent Seed Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 1:59 PM To: Discussion of aroids Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Syngonium Hi Tom; What do you think this one is? Best, Jude On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 12:43 PM, Tom Croat wrote: I agree with Eduardo. Syngonium angustifolium is much more of a weed than S. podophyllum. I remember that it was adorning the trees of the public circle in Balboa when I was working on my Revision of Syngonium and I had not found it anywhere in the wild at that time in Panama. Many neotropical aroids have been introduced in to the natural forests of Papua New Guinea. I was shocked to see so many such species in what I thought was virgin forests around Lae. Tom From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Eduardo Gonçalves Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 9:23 AM To: Discussion of aroids Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Syngonium Dear aroiders, As far as I have observed, the Syngonium which is broadly cultivated is Syngonium angustatum, not S. podophyllum. The main easy-to-observe difference is on male flowers, which are retuse (shallowly lobate, like a molar teeth) on apex on S. angustatum and truncate (blunt) on S. podophyllum. I took this in Tom’s revision of the genus (1981). All naturalized Syngonium I have seen in Brazil and around Miami are S. angustatum. Pictures I have seen from Southeastern Asia are S. angustatum as well. Syngonium auritum has subcoriaceus and pretty shiny leaves and is a lazy climber, seeming to prefer to be lurking around on topsoil. Material I have seen of S. podophyllum - only in Chiapas-Mexico and around San Jose in Costa Rica - climber like crazy and have softer leaves. By the way, I have checked my S. auritum in my backyard and they have exactly the same aspect as that on Peter’s picture. Very best wishes, Eduardo. On 11 Sep 2018, at 02:50, Peter Boyce wrote: here in cultivation auritum has leathery glossy leaf blades while podophyllum has thin matte leaf blades. This is auritum (not my image) On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 at 09:27, Jason Hernandez wrote: As long as we are on the subject of Syngonium, is there a reliable way to distiguish in the field between S. podophyllum and S. auritum? It matters because in the Dominican Republic, S. auritum is native, S. podophyllum is naturalized. Jason Hernandez _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l -- The Silent Seed Rare and Unusual plants from around the world. thesilentseed.com

From: The Silent Seed <tylus.seklos at gmail.com> on 2018.09.12 at 12:41:14(24069) Good morning Tom, Thank you very much! I hope your travels are happy, fun, and safe. Jude HTML +More On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 1:08 AM, Peter Boyce wrote: Hello Eduardo So are these (see attached) flat or retuse? On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 at 22:26, Eduardo Gonçalves wrote: Dear aroiders, As far as I have observed, the Syngonium which is broadly cultivated is Syngonium angustatum, not S. podophyllum. The main easy-to-observe difference is on male flowers, which are retuse (shallowly lobate, like a molar teeth) on apex on S. angustatum and truncate (blunt) on S. podophyllum. I took this in Tom’s revision of the genus (1981). All naturalized Syngonium I have seen in Brazil and around Miami are S. angustatum. Pictures I have seen from Southeastern Asia are S. angustatum as well. Syngonium auritum has subcoriaceus and pretty shiny leaves and is a lazy climber, seeming to prefer to be lurking around on topsoil. Material I have seen of S. podophyllum - only in Chiapas-Mexico and around San Jose in Costa Rica - climber like crazy and have softer leaves. By the way, I have checked my S. auritum in my backyard and they have exactly the same aspect as that on Peter’s picture. Very best wishes, Eduardo. On 11 Sep 2018, at 02:50, Peter Boyce wrote: here in cultivation auritum has leathery glossy leaf blades while podophyllum has thin matte leaf blades. This is auritum (not my image) On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 at 09:27, Jason Hernandez wrote: As long as we are on the subject of Syngonium, is there a reliable way to distiguish in the field between S. podophyllum and S. auritum? It matters because in the Dominican Republic, S. auritum is native, S. podophyllum is naturalized. Jason Hernandez _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l -- The Silent Seed Rare and Unusual plants from around the world. thesilentseed.com --000000000000efc4630575abe7cb-- --==============S67474033905005693==

From: =?utf-8?Q?Eduardo_Gon=C3=A7alves?= <edggon at gmail.com> on 2018.09.12 at 23:21:38(24070) (File Type Not Recognized: attachments/180912163201-1.tif) Dear Pete, HTML +More To me, those on your picture are quite retuse. I don’t have pictures of synandria in S. podophyllum, but I am attaching a exert of Schott’s S. vellozianum, which is quite similar to S. podophyllum except for the red-yellow fruit issue. The furrows between individual stamens are almost indetectable in S. podophyllum. If you google S. podophyllum, all you see is S. angustatum!!! In fact, I have cultivated S. angustatum, S. erythrophyllum, S. auritum, S. chiapense, S. crassifolium and S. yurimaguense, but only saw S. podophyllum twice, once in Mexico and once in Costa Rica. They can be common locally, but I doubt someone have the real S. podophyllum in cultivation. Very best wishes, Eduardo. On 12 Sep 2018, at 08:41, The Silent Seed wrote: Good morning Tom, Thank you very much! I hope your travels are happy, fun, and safe. Jude On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 1:08 AM, Peter Boyce wrote: Hello Eduardo So are these (see attached) flat or retuse? On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 at 22:26, Eduardo Gonçalves wrote: Dear aroiders, As far as I have observed, the Syngonium which is broadly cultivated is Syngonium angustatum, not S. podophyllum. The main easy-to-observe difference is on male flowers, which are retuse (shallowly lobate, like a molar teeth) on apex on S. angustatum and truncate (blunt) on S. podophyllum. I took this in Tom’s revision of the genus (1981). All naturalized Syngonium I have seen in Brazil and around Miami are S. angustatum. Pictures I have seen from Southeastern Asia are S. angustatum as well. Syngonium auritum has subcoriaceus and pretty shiny leaves and is a lazy climber, seeming to prefer to be lurking around on topsoil. Material I have seen of S. podophyllum - only in Chiapas-Mexico and around San Jose in Costa Rica - climber like crazy and have softer leaves. By the way, I have checked my S. auritum in my backyard and they have exactly the same aspect as that on Peter’s picture. Very best wishes, Eduardo. On 11 Sep 2018, at 02:50, Peter Boyce wrote: here in cultivation auritum has leathery glossy leaf blades while podophyllum has thin matte leaf blades. This is auritum (not my image) On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 at 09:27, Jason Hernandez wrote: As long as we are on the subject of Syngonium, is there a reliable way to distiguish in the field between S. podophyllum and S. auritum? It matters because in the Dominican Republic, S. auritum is native, S. podophyllum is naturalized. Jason Hernandez _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l -- The Silent Seed Rare and Unusual plants from around the world. thesilentseed.com _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l --Apple-Mail=_E54FAC0B-8479-4386-B939-5A1A23B48F73 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline; filename=PastedGraphic-1.tiff

From: Peter Boyce <phymatarum at gmail.com> on 2018.09.14 at 04:47:58(24071) (File Type Not Recognized: attachments/180913220202-1.tif) (File Type Not Recognized: attachments/180913220202-2.tif) Dear Eduardo, Ah HA - great stuff and MANY thanks for the clarification. Wooo it means that angustatum is a pestilential weed here on Borneo! Very best wishes Peter HTML +More On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 at 08:02, Eduardo Gonçalves wrote: Dear Pete, To me, those on your picture are quite retuse. I don’t have pictures of synandria in S. podophyllum, but I am attaching a exert of Schott’s S. vellozianum, which is quite similar to S. podophyllum except for the red-yellow fruit issue. The furrows between individual stamens are almost indetectable in S. podophyllum. If you google S. podophyllum, all you see is S. angustatum!!! In fact, I have cultivated S. angustatum, S. erythrophyllum, S. auritum, S. chiapense, S. crassifolium and S. yurimaguense, but only saw S. podophyllum twice, once in Mexico and once in Costa Rica. They can be common locally, but I doubt someone have the real S. podophyllum in cultivation. Very best wishes, Eduardo. On 12 Sep 2018, at 08:41, The Silent Seed wrote: Good morning Tom, Thank you very much! I hope your travels are happy, fun, and safe. Jude On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 1:08 AM, Peter Boyce wrote: Hello Eduardo So are these (see attached) flat or retuse? On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 at 22:26, Eduardo Gonçalves wrote: Dear aroiders, As far as I have observed, the Syngonium which is broadly cultivated is Syngonium angustatum, not S. podophyllum. The main easy-to-observe difference is on male flowers, which are retuse (shallowly lobate, like a molar teeth) on apex on S. angustatum and truncate (blunt) on S. podophyllum. I took this in Tom’s revision of the genus (1981). All naturalized Syngonium I have seen in Brazil and around Miami are S. angustatum. Pictures I have seen from Southeastern Asia are S. angustatum as well. Syngonium auritum has subcoriaceus and pretty shiny leaves and is a lazy climber, seeming to prefer to be lurking around on topsoil. Material I have seen of S. podophyllum - only in Chiapas-Mexico and around San Jose in Costa Rica - climber like crazy and have softer leaves. By the way, I have checked my S. auritum in my backyard and they have exactly the same aspect as that on Peter’s picture. Very best wishes, Eduardo. On 11 Sep 2018, at 02:50, Peter Boyce wrote: here in cultivation auritum has leathery glossy leaf blades while podophyllum has thin matte leaf blades. This is auritum (not my image) On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 at 09:27, Jason Hernandez wrote: As long as we are on the subject of Syngonium, is there a reliable way to distiguish in the field between S. podophyllum and S. auritum? It matters because in the Dominican Republic, S. auritum is native, S. podophyllum is naturalized. Jason Hernandez _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l -- The Silent Seed Rare and Unusual plants from around the world. thesilentseed.com _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l --000000000000e7c17f0575cd87b9-- --000000000000e7c1810575cd87ba

From: George Yao <geoyao at gmail.com> on 2018.09.14 at 08:27:29(24072) Hello Eduardo, What is this that I thought was S. podophyllum? HTML +More George Yao Metro-Manila Philippines On Sep 13, 2018, at 7:21 AM, Eduardo Gonçalves wrote: Dear Pete, To me, those on your picture are quite retuse. I don’t have pictures of synandria in S. podophyllum, but I am attaching a exert of Schott’s S. vellozianum, which is quite similar to S. podophyllum except for the red-yellow fruit issue. The furrows between individual stamens are almost indetectable in S. podophyllum. If you google S. podophyllum, all you see is S. angustatum!!! In fact, I have cultivated S. angustatum, S. erythrophyllum, S. auritum, S. chiapense, S. crassifolium and S. yurimaguense, but only saw S. podophyllum twice, once in Mexico and once in Costa Rica. They can be common locally, but I doubt someone have the real S. podophyllum in cultivation. Very best wishes, Eduardo. On 12 Sep 2018, at 08:41, The Silent Seed wrote: Good morning Tom, Thank you very much! I hope your travels are happy, fun, and safe. Jude On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 1:08 AM, Peter Boyce wrote: Hello Eduardo So are these (see attached) flat or retuse? On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 at 22:26, Eduardo Gonçalves wrote: Dear aroiders, As far as I have observed, the Syngonium which is broadly cultivated is Syngonium angustatum, not S. podophyllum. The main easy-to-observe difference is on male flowers, which are retuse (shallowly lobate, like a molar teeth) on apex on S. angustatum and truncate (blunt) on S. podophyllum. I took this in Tom’s revision of the genus (1981). All naturalized Syngonium I have seen in Brazil and around Miami are S. angustatum. Pictures I have seen from Southeastern Asia are S. angustatum as well. Syngonium auritum has subcoriaceus and pretty shiny leaves and is a lazy climber, seeming to prefer to be lurking around on topsoil. Material I have seen of S. podophyllum - only in Chiapas-Mexico and around San Jose in Costa Rica - climber like crazy and have softer leaves. By the way, I have checked my S. auritum in my backyard and they have exactly the same aspect as that on Peter’s picture. Very best wishes, Eduardo. On 11 Sep 2018, at 02:50, Peter Boyce wrote: here in cultivation auritum has leathery glossy leaf blades while podophyllum has thin matte leaf blades. This is auritum (not my image) On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 at 09:27, Jason Hernandez wrote: As long as we are on the subject of Syngonium, is there a reliable way to distiguish in the field between S. podophyllum and S. auritum? It matters because in the Dominican Republic, S. auritum is native, S. podophyllum is naturalized. Jason Hernandez _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l -- The Silent Seed Rare and Unusual plants from around the world. thesilentseed.com _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l --Apple-Mail=_E0595330-5C16-433A-BFDA-3DD77967095A Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline; filename=DSC04487.jpeg

From: =?utf-8?Q?Eduardo_Gon=C3=A7alves?= <edggon at gmail.com> on 2018.09.14 at 13:02:54(24073) Dear George, Like all material people say is S. podophyllum, you are a proud owner of a S. angustatum. Congratulations!!! HTML +More Cheers, Eduardo. On 14 Sep 2018, at 04:27, George Yao wrote: Hello Eduardo, What is this that I thought was S. podophyllum? George Yao Metro-Manila Philippines On Sep 13, 2018, at 7:21 AM, Eduardo Gonçalves wrote: Dear Pete, To me, those on your picture are quite retuse. I don’t have pictures of synandria in S. podophyllum, but I am attaching a exert of Schott’s S. vellozianum, which is quite similar to S. podophyllum except for the red-yellow fruit issue. The furrows between individual stamens are almost indetectable in S. podophyllum. If you google S. podophyllum, all you see is S. angustatum!!! In fact, I have cultivated S. angustatum, S. erythrophyllum, S. auritum, S. chiapense, S. crassifolium and S. yurimaguense, but only saw S. podophyllum twice, once in Mexico and once in Costa Rica. They can be common locally, but I doubt someone have the real S. podophyllum in cultivation. Very best wishes, Eduardo. On 12 Sep 2018, at 08:41, The Silent Seed wrote: Good morning Tom, Thank you very much! I hope your travels are happy, fun, and safe. Jude On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 1:08 AM, Peter Boyce wrote: Hello Eduardo So are these (see attached) flat or retuse? On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 at 22:26, Eduardo Gonçalves wrote: Dear aroiders, As far as I have observed, the Syngonium which is broadly cultivated is Syngonium angustatum, not S. podophyllum. The main easy-to-observe difference is on male flowers, which are retuse (shallowly lobate, like a molar teeth) on apex on S. angustatum and truncate (blunt) on S. podophyllum. I took this in Tom’s revision of the genus (1981). All naturalized Syngonium I have seen in Brazil and around Miami are S. angustatum. Pictures I have seen from Southeastern Asia are S. angustatum as well. Syngonium auritum has subcoriaceus and pretty shiny leaves and is a lazy climber, seeming to prefer to be lurking around on topsoil. Material I have seen of S. podophyllum - only in Chiapas-Mexico and around San Jose in Costa Rica - climber like crazy and have softer leaves. By the way, I have checked my S. auritum in my backyard and they have exactly the same aspect as that on Peter’s picture. Very best wishes, Eduardo. On 11 Sep 2018, at 02:50, Peter Boyce wrote: here in cultivation auritum has leathery glossy leaf blades while podophyllum has thin matte leaf blades. This is auritum (not my image) On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 at 09:27, Jason Hernandez wrote: As long as we are on the subject of Syngonium, is there a reliable way to distiguish in the field between S. podophyllum and S. auritum? It matters because in the Dominican Republic, S. auritum is native, S. podophyllum is naturalized. Jason Hernandez _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l -- The Silent Seed Rare and Unusual plants from around the world. thesilentseed.com _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l --Apple-Mail=_62EBBD90-5E40-49BC-9364-BA1601D37AA6-- --==============a88185738971777189==

From: =?utf-8?Q?Eduardo_Gon=C3=A7alves?= <edggon at gmail.com> on 2018.09.14 at 13:11:47(24074) Yes, Pete, Syngonium angustatum is THE PESTILENTIAL THING, par excellence . HTML +More I am trying to remove it from my garden for three years. Even being a climber, it behaves like a rhizomatous thing. Just a tiny fragment of the stem is a brand new variegated monster thriving from my expensive resources. Very best wishes, Eduardo. On 14 Sep 2018, at 00:47, Peter Boyce wrote: Dear Eduardo, Ah HA - great stuff and MANY thanks for the clarification. Wooo it means that angustatum is a pestilential weed here on Borneo! Very best wishes Peter On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 at 08:02, Eduardo Gonçalves wrote: Dear Pete, To me, those on your picture are quite retuse. I don’t have pictures of synandria in S. podophyllum, but I am attaching a exert of Schott’s S. vellozianum, which is quite similar to S. podophyllum except for the red-yellow fruit issue. The furrows between individual stamens are almost indetectable in S. podophyllum. If you google S. podophyllum, all you see is S. angustatum!!! In fact, I have cultivated S. angustatum, S. erythrophyllum, S. auritum, S. chiapense, S. crassifolium and S. yurimaguense, but only saw S. podophyllum twice, once in Mexico and once in Costa Rica. They can be common locally, but I doubt someone have the real S. podophyllum in cultivation. Very best wishes, Eduardo. On 12 Sep 2018, at 08:41, The Silent Seed wrote: Good morning Tom, Thank you very much! I hope your travels are happy, fun, and safe. Jude On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 1:08 AM, Peter Boyce wrote: Hello Eduardo So are these (see attached) flat or retuse? On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 at 22:26, Eduardo Gonçalves wrote: Dear aroiders, As far as I have observed, the Syngonium which is broadly cultivated is Syngonium angustatum, not S. podophyllum. The main easy-to-observe difference is on male flowers, which are retuse (shallowly lobate, like a molar teeth) on apex on S. angustatum and truncate (blunt) on S. podophyllum. I took this in Tom’s revision of the genus (1981). All naturalized Syngonium I have seen in Brazil and around Miami are S. angustatum. Pictures I have seen from Southeastern Asia are S. angustatum as well. Syngonium auritum has subcoriaceus and pretty shiny leaves and is a lazy climber, seeming to prefer to be lurking around on topsoil. Material I have seen of S. podophyllum - only in Chiapas-Mexico and around San Jose in Costa Rica - climber like crazy and have softer leaves. By the way, I have checked my S. auritum in my backyard and they have exactly the same aspect as that on Peter’s picture. Very best wishes, Eduardo. On 11 Sep 2018, at 02:50, Peter Boyce wrote: here in cultivation auritum has leathery glossy leaf blades while podophyllum has thin matte leaf blades. This is auritum (not my image) On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 at 09:27, Jason Hernandez wrote: As long as we are on the subject of Syngonium, is there a reliable way to distiguish in the field between S. podophyllum and S. auritum? It matters because in the Dominican Republic, S. auritum is native, S. podophyllum is naturalized. Jason Hernandez _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l -- The Silent Seed Rare and Unusual plants from around the world. thesilentseed.com _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l --Apple-Mail=_9C1E7E0C-2979-4A4B-9E64-6B6C2085F036-- --==============f84433425568351743==

From: George Yao <geoyao at gmail.com> on 2018.09.14 at 13:52:03(24075) Thank you very much, Eduardo! It is quite a weed here in the Philippines. It can cover a wall in no time. I appreciate your shedding light on this long-standing misidentification. 👍 HTML +More George Yao Metro-Manila Philippines On Sep 14, 2018, at 9:02 PM, Eduardo Gonçalves wrote: Dear George, Like all material people say is S. podophyllum, you are a proud owner of a S. angustatum. Congratulations!!! Cheers, Eduardo. On 14 Sep 2018, at 04:27, George Yao wrote: Hello Eduardo, What is this that I thought was S. podophyllum? George Yao Metro-Manila Philippines On Sep 13, 2018, at 7:21 AM, Eduardo Gonçalves wrote: Dear Pete, To me, those on your picture are quite retuse. I don’t have pictures of synandria in S. podophyllum, but I am attaching a exert of Schott’s S. vellozianum, which is quite similar to S. podophyllum except for the red-yellow fruit issue. The furrows between individual stamens are almost indetectable in S. podophyllum. If you google S. podophyllum, all you see is S. angustatum!!! In fact, I have cultivated S. angustatum, S. erythrophyllum, S. auritum, S. chiapense, S. crassifolium and S. yurimaguense, but only saw S. podophyllum twice, once in Mexico and once in Costa Rica. They can be common locally, but I doubt someone have the real S. podophyllum in cultivation. Very best wishes, Eduardo. On 12 Sep 2018, at 08:41, The Silent Seed wrote: Good morning Tom, Thank you very much! I hope your travels are happy, fun, and safe. Jude On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 1:08 AM, Peter Boyce wrote: Hello Eduardo So are these (see attached) flat or retuse? On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 at 22:26, Eduardo Gonçalves wrote: Dear aroiders, As far as I have observed, the Syngonium which is broadly cultivated is Syngonium angustatum, not S. podophyllum. The main easy-to-observe difference is on male flowers, which are retuse (shallowly lobate, like a molar teeth) on apex on S. angustatum and truncate (blunt) on S. podophyllum. I took this in Tom’s revision of the genus (1981). All naturalized Syngonium I have seen in Brazil and around Miami are S. angustatum. Pictures I have seen from Southeastern Asia are S. angustatum as well. Syngonium auritum has subcoriaceus and pretty shiny leaves and is a lazy climber, seeming to prefer to be lurking around on topsoil. Material I have seen of S. podophyllum - only in Chiapas-Mexico and around San Jose in Costa Rica - climber like crazy and have softer leaves. By the way, I have checked my S. auritum in my backyard and they have exactly the same aspect as that on Peter’s picture. Very best wishes, Eduardo. On 11 Sep 2018, at 02:50, Peter Boyce wrote: here in cultivation auritum has leathery glossy leaf blades while podophyllum has thin matte leaf blades. This is auritum (not my image) On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 at 09:27, Jason Hernandez wrote: As long as we are on the subject of Syngonium, is there a reliable way to distiguish in the field between S. podophyllum and S. auritum? It matters because in the Dominican Republic, S. auritum is native, S. podophyllum is naturalized. Jason Hernandez _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l -- The Silent Seed Rare and Unusual plants from around the world. thesilentseed.com _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l --Apple-Mail=_8960252B-1BDA-42CD-8B16-BF622EA9C3BF-- --==============H05881437389676119==

From: "D. Christopher Rogers" <branchiopod at gmail.com> on 2018.09.14 at 14:29:43(24076) I have found S. angustatum to be common in Guam, Thailand, Laos, and Taiwan . . . but I also thought it was S. podophyllum. Thanks for the corrections and explanations Eduardo!! Happy days, Christopher HTML +More On 14 September 2018 at 08:52, George Yao wrote: Thank you very much, Eduardo! It is quite a weed here in the Philippines. It can cover a wall in no time. I appreciate your shedding light on this long-standing misidentification. 👍 George Yao Metro-Manila Philippines On Sep 14, 2018, at 9:02 PM, Eduardo Gonçalves wrote: Dear George, Like all material people say is S. podophyllum, you are a proud owner of a S. angustatum. Congratulations!!! Cheers, Eduardo. On 14 Sep 2018, at 04:27, George Yao wrote: Hello Eduardo, What is this that I thought was S. podophyllum? George Yao Metro-Manila Philippines On Sep 13, 2018, at 7:21 AM, Eduardo Gonçalves wrote: Dear Pete, To me, those on your picture are quite retuse. I don’t have pictures of synandria in S. podophyllum, but I am attaching a exert of Schott’s S. vellozianum, which is quite similar to S. podophyllum except for the red-yellow fruit issue. The furrows between individual stamens are almost indetectable in S. podophyllum. If you google S. podophyllum, all you see is S. angustatum!!! In fact, I have cultivated S. angustatum, S. erythrophyllum, S. auritum, S. chiapense, S. crassifolium and S. yurimaguense, but only saw S. podophyllum twice, once in Mexico and once in Costa Rica. They can be common locally, but I doubt someone have the real S. podophyllum in cultivation. Very best wishes, Eduardo. On 12 Sep 2018, at 08:41, The Silent Seed wrote: Good morning Tom, Thank you very much! I hope your travels are happy, fun, and safe. Jude On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 1:08 AM, Peter Boyce wrote: Hello Eduardo So are these (see attached) flat or retuse? On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 at 22:26, Eduardo Gonçalves wrote: Dear aroiders, As far as I have observed, the Syngonium which is broadly cultivated is Syngonium angustatum, not S. podophyllum. The main easy-to-observe difference is on male flowers, which are retuse (shallowly lobate, like a molar teeth) on apex on S. angustatum and truncate (blunt) on S. podophyllum. I took this in Tom’s revision of the genus (1981). All naturalized Syngonium I have seen in Brazil and around Miami are S. angustatum. Pictures I have seen from Southeastern Asia are S. angustatum as well. Syngonium auritum has subcoriaceus and pretty shiny leaves and is a lazy climber, seeming to prefer to be lurking around on topsoil. Material I have seen of S. podophyllum - only in Chiapas-Mexico and around San Jose in Costa Rica - climber like crazy and have softer leaves. By the way, I have checked my S. auritum in my backyard and they have exactly the same aspect as that on Peter’s picture. Very best wishes, Eduardo. On 11 Sep 2018, at 02:50, Peter Boyce wrote: here in cultivation auritum has leathery glossy leaf blades while podophyllum has thin matte leaf blades. This is auritum (not my image) On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 at 09:27, Jason Hernandez wrote: As long as we are on the subject of Syngonium, is there a reliable way to distiguish in the field between S. podophyllum and S. auritum? It matters because in the Dominican Republic, S. auritum is native, S. podophyllum is naturalized. Jason Hernandez _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l -- The Silent Seed Rare and Unusual plants from around the world. thesilentseed.com _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l -- D. Christopher Rogers ((,///////////=======

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