Fw: [Aroid-l] Please help me with Arum IDs

From: "Pacific Rim" paige at hillkeep.ca> on 2005.08.25 at 03:50:58(13315) To be corrected by Peter Boyce is a privilege. I received your answer this evening, Peter. Thank you for your help. Group, what do you think? Many horticultural selections of A. dioscoridis have lost their taxonomical distinction and been wrapped into one variable species. Fine. But given that so many of the arums in horticulture are clones, is it not perhaps useful to repeat their former names, e.g. "This is the plant formerly known as var. spectabile"? Or does that just defer understanding that variation is the norm? As for my elongatum glitch: Thank you for confirming it, Peter. It's interesting how the mind keeps sifting. Already by this morning, my sleeping brain had signalled, "Ah-ooga, ah-ooga!" Looking at my web page, I realized that I had mixed up the images of nigrum and elongatum, and reposted the page. Peter, do other growers plague you with requests for names? If my orientale is orientale, some of the other orientales online must be something else. I spent months in Borneo in the early 1980s, but was focused elsewhere. Failed to differentiate the orchids or the Araceae. Thought of them all as plants. Paige Woodward +More paige@hillkeep.ca www.hillkeep.ca ----- Original Message ----- To: "Discussion of aroids" Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 2:25 AM Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Please help me with Arum IDs Hi Paige cf concinnatum is concinnatum x cyrenaicum dioscorides Spectabile Form is dioscorides var. dioscorides dioscorides var. cyprium is d. var. syriacum dioscorides var. cyprium Dark Form is d. var. dioscorides dioscorides var. philistaeum is aslo d. var. dioscorides. A. elongatum is A. nigrum A. orientale and all other names are correct Very best wishes Pete ----- Original Message ----- To: Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 5:31 AM Subject: [Aroid-l] Please help me with Arum IDs Dear all: I have been struggling to give correct names to some Arums that are new to me. Yes, "The Genus Arum" is on my Christmas list. But meanwhile, if anyone would like to comment, on or offline, about the identity of any of the Arums on my website at http://www.hillkeep.ca/bulbs%20arum.htm, I would be grateful. I am open to corrections on every ID, but the ones that particularly worry me at the moment are: -- "Arum aff. concinnatum." Should this be concinnatum? -- all the A. dioscoridis group. -- A. orientale. The photo is of the plant. But does it look like orientale? If not, what do you think it is? With thanks, Paige Woodward paige@hillkeep.ca www.hillkeep.ca _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

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