----- Original Message -----
To:
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 2:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Scaring systematics...
Dear Marek
Wow... what a confusion... I said Lemna and ALLIES (i.e., related groups,
namely: Spirodela, Wolffia, Wolffiella and Landoltia), not Allium
(Garlic)!!!! (LOL)
Don īt be affraid Allium is still Alliaceae and I don īt think it will
change for the next 15 minutes... (Just kidding)
Very best wishes,
Eduardo
Dr. Eduardo G. Goncalves
Universidade Catolica de Brasilia
Curso de Ciencias Biologicas
Sala M-206, QS 7, Lote 1, EPTC
CEP 72030-170, Taguatinga ? DF, BRAZIL.
Reply-To: Discussion of aroids
To: "Discussion of aroids"
Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Scaring systematics...
Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 22:33:08 +0100
Allium in Araceae???? Can't be. It's in its own family Alliaceae.
Marek
----- Original Message ----- From: "Eduardo Goncalves"
To:
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 8:42 PM
Subject: [Aroid-l] Scaring systematics...
Dear scared people,
Yes, and Ruscaceae is not even included in Liliales... It is in a
different order, Asparagales!
And for those that want to hear about the "latest heretic things" (most
not so latest)... Lemna and allies are aroids, Acorus is not an aroid and
the family Araceae is now placed in the order Alismatales, together with
most aquarium plants... And we have now two new aroid genera within the
Spathicarpeae: Croatiella and Incarum...
Very best wishes,
Eduardo.
Dr. Eduardo G. Goncalves
Universidade Catolica de Brasilia
Curso de Ciencias Biologicas
Sala M-206, QS 7, Lote 1, EPTC
CEP 72030-170, Taguatinga ? DF, BRAZIL.
Reply-To: Discussion of aroids
To: Discussion of aroids
Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Intrageneric crossing - a good reference
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 13:03:38 -0800 (PST)
Sansevieria has recently been placed into Ruscaceae.
Eric
Orlando,FL
--- hermine wrote:
> At 12:01 AM 1/30/2006, Peter Boyce wrote:
> >Hermine
> >
> >Just to make you even MORE scared, most people
> don't even put
> >Sanseveria in the Liliaceae any more...
>
>
> THIS IS HERESY. I do not even want to HEAR about
> this.
>
>
> >What frustrates me about all the efforts expended
> on family
> >shuffling & debating is that, e.g., c. 65% of the
> aroids of Borneo
> >have yet to receive even ONE name!
>
> well, it just goes to show that agreement is getting
> rare!
> 2/3rds of the names for Palms commonly grown in
> gardens, have changed
> entirely since a book listing them, published in
> 1947.
> A person almost asks, what is the POINT?
>
> One of the other things I ponder is why is Clivia
> listed as a bulb?
>
> hermine
>
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