Re: [SUSPECT EMAIL] [Aroid-l] P. hastatum is P. domesticum??

From: "Steve Lucas Exotic Rainforest" steve at exoticrainforest.com> on 2006.09.19 at 10:31:41(14624) Thanks! ----- Original Message ----- From: +More Tom Croat To: Discussion of aroids Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 7:51 PM Subject: RE: [SUSPECT EMAIL] [Aroid-l] P. hastatum is P. domesticum?? Steve: I am not familiar with what Bunting was calling Philodendron elongatum (and commonly referred to as P. hastatum in horticulture) but P. elongatum was described in 1966 many years after Engler described P. hastatum so P. hastatum can not be a synonym of P. domesticum. Admittedly the illustrations in his paper and those he cited from Exotica III (namely those on p. 115, 203 and 204, but especially those showing the leaves, look very much like P. hastatum. Bunting?s main distinction was that P. hastatum has 6?8 ovules per locule whereas P. domesticum has only 1?2 ovules per locule. It would appear to be a strong character but, as I said, I don?t really know P. domesticum at all. Tom From: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Steve Lucas Exotic RainforestSent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 4:15 PMTo: Discussion of aroidsSubject: [SUSPECT EMAIL] [Aroid-l] P. hastatum is P. domesticum??Importance: Low I'm sure many of you are familiar with the popular garden site Dave's Garden. I sent them an email several weeks ago with the information from Dr. Croat which appeared on this discussion site some months ago that "P. glaucophyllum" was not a correct name according to Dr. Croat. You may recall some time ago he and I had a conversation about "Philodendron glaucophyllum" that led over onto the Aroid L site where some folks seemed to want to disagree about the plant name despite what Dr. Croat had said. At the time he told me in a personal email "P. glaucophyllum" was a "made-up" name and the correct name was Philodendron hastatum. Now Dave's Garden has chosen to lump both P. hastatum and "glaucophyllum" as synonyms of P. domesticum. I don't recall him saying P. hastatum was a synonym of anything. Here's their link with the claims. http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/93124/index.html I told them again Dr. Croat had explained in an email P. hastatum was the correct species name and they sent back and said they were confident all were the same plant. Don't look like the same plant to me! Can anyone comment on this? Steve Lucas www.ExoticRainforest.com Spade-leaf Philodendron Philodendron domesticum Family: Araceae (a-RAY-see-ee) (Info)Genus: Philodendron (fil-oh-DEN-dron) (Info)Species: domesticum (doh-MESS-tik-um) (Info) Synonym:Philodendron hastatum Synonym:Philodendron glaucophyllum _______________________________________________Aroid-l mailing listAroid-l@gizmoworks.comhttp://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

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