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Steve Lucas Exotic Rainforest
To: Discussion of aroids
Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 11:48
Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Philodendron
Harry (and others who have sent email
I received some nice photos from Brian Williams this morning
that appear to support the idea the 'Silver Queen' is the juvenile form of
M. dubia. Brian's photos show the plant progressing into the
adult stages. Since I can't get an absolute verification of that fact as
yet I'm hesitant to declare it so but more than one grower has indicated the
same idea to me. Of course, others differ strongly with that
opinion. The plant that was identified by the person at the Huntington
as M. siltepecana has begun to climb a nearby log and
has only recently begun to produce holes in the leaves. I don't
consider it large enough or the holes distinctive enough yet to photograph
well but the leaves are over 20cm at this point. I've had it in the
ground for about 18 months and have tried not to disturb it so the plant can
develop as much as possible in my artificial "rainforest".
Although I grow some plants in pots, I grow as many as
possible planted in the soil or attached to artificial logs. The soil in
our atrium was prepared to simulate rainforest conditions. I
maintain a steady temperature and extremely high humidity all the times.
As a result, many of my specimens have grown unusually large in a
relatively short period of time. As I've reported before, the A.
regale has a leave well over 70cm and is currently in bloom. I've
only had the plant 15 months and it had no leaves when it arrived.
Knowledgeable growers who visit often comment they have not seen plants
growing as large. I was fortunate enough to have spent a fair amount of
time in rainforests around the world and set out to duplicate those conditions
as closely as possible when I built the atrium nearly 5 years
Several others have indicated they believe I have my
identifications backwards on the M. dubia and M.
siltepecana plants and that is certainly possible. I just
attempt to post what I can verify from sources with more knowledge and
experience than I. I invite anyone to comment on anything I have posted
on the site and make suggestions or corrections. My only goal is to try
to get the information as accurate as possible. One thing I find most
enjoyable is when other knowledgeable growers volunteer good information
attempt to help each other with good information. So keep it
----- Original Message -----
To: 'Discussion of aroids'
Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 6:54
Subject: RE: [Aroid-l] Philodendron
Steve, I totally agree with you. This plant seems
to defy identity. I had Rhaphidophora cryptantha labeled Monstera dubia for
years so I can surely be incorrect and am quite often. I have never seen the
plant I have labeled M siltepecana revert to any type of foliage other than
what it has now. I would assume that if it were M dubia it would in some
situations revert to the sprawling climber that shingles but I could be
What is the consensus on this plant if any from the
There is obviously more than a bit of disagreement on what
"species" the plant known as the Silver Queen actually is.
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