From: "Steve Marak"
To: "Discussion of aroids"
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 10:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Aroid-L Moderation
> Good comments, Harry. As you obviously know, maintaining any sort of forum
> is more work than it appears on the surface even if you choose a complete
> laissez-faire approach, and - in my opinion at least - that tends to work
> no better here than in many other places. Those few lists I'm still on
> which do let anyone post anything any time tend to have a very high
> noise-to-signal ratio, and lots of vitriol and bad feeling. Most lists now
> have been forced by the spammers to restrict posting to members only, but
> even there it is a well-behaved group indeed that does not require the
> occasional intervention.
>
> A few other comments, which may (or may not) be of any interest to anyone,
> about the group in general and about my "policy" - if something as vague
> as what I have merits that word.
>
> This is a very well behaved group, and most often moderation comes into
> play for the reasons I mentioned - the odd spam that somehow gets through
> despite the only-members-can-post setting, or something someone posted
> unintentionally, or someone who has "poster's regret" (the lesser known
> cousin of "buyer's remorse"), or, in a few cases, because the message had
> some other problem - formatting, etc.
>
> When something does make it to the list, it's always as the sender sent
> it, i.e., I never ever edit something someone else sent and then send it
> on as their words. I may ask people to rephrase something, corect
> formatting issues, or even ask them if I may discard a post rather than
> posting it, and - in very rare cases - I may choose to unilaterally
> discard it. But if it comes through, it's as they sent it. (In theory, I
> could edit something and send it on as though it came from a list member;
> in practice, I haven't even investigated how one might do that on this
> software.)
>
> I do reserve the right to not post anything I choose, for any reason I
> wish, and for obvious reasons I make no promise that I will filter out or
> not filter out anything, on any particular criteria, or that you won't (or
> will) be offended by something you see here. That pretty much has to be
> every listowner's mantra these days.
>
> That said, and because it is so much easier to be misunderstood in e-mail,
> I do make an effort to catch things I think might be inflammatory or
> offensive, and usually my first reaction is to ask the poster if they'll
> rephrase it. As another sign of what a good group this is, people are
> almost always willing to do so.
>
> Usually, the touchiest area is inflammatory vs. controversial. The former
> is not OK, the latter is, but discriminating between the two is hard,
> because both tend to have high emotional investment and they're not
> mutually exclusive.
>
> Steve
>
>
> On Thu, 3 Jan 2008, Harry Witmore wrote:
>
>> We finally made changes and it has not been near as much work. But, I can
>> also say we do not even attempt to moderate what members post since we
>> also
>> moderate members and it's a very well behaved group as this 'seems' to
>> be.
>> Could be there is a great deal of work to make it appear that way.
>>
>> It's also been the holiday season so that could also have something to do
>> with it.
>>
>> Harry Witmore
>> Cloud Jungle Epiphytes
>> HYPERLINK "http://www.cloudjungle.com/"www.cloudjungle.com
>
> -- Steve Marak
> -- samarak at gizmoworks.com
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